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A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, July 24, 2007  

Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Stuart Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
Harry Gutheil Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952

Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
John Wheatley EDC Warren County 761-6007

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting to
order at 10:05.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the May 24
th meeting minutes.

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)

A. Aviation Road, Aaron
A project newsletter went out to committee members and to people who
had attended the first public meeting. The newsletter is available on line.
The school board met yesterday to discuss the Master Site Plan.
Consideration is being given to a new access point west of the campus.
An Advisory Committee meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday at 2 at the
Queensbury Town Office Building. A second public work session will be
scheduled for August or September.

B. Access Management, Aaron
The technical document is complete; working with RSG to revise the
guidebook to include suggestions from the study committee; will delay
training classes for planning and zoning board personnel until next year;
we will use our consultants to give public outreach presentations at large

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441

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functions (Oct. 3
rd Land Use Conference and/or the Saratoga Safety
Planning Conference).

C. Progress on HSTP and LRP, Aaron
(handout) The draft introductory material based upon available
demographics and survey data is complete, but we would like to have
comments from DOT and committee members before the material is
submitted to the public. Would like comments back within 2 to 3 weeks.
The next step will be to formulate an action plan with the survey
respondents and interested municipalities. The intent was to have a
rewritten survey analysis available to handout today, but it will be emailed
to committee members in several weeks. Assistance with the LRP includes
getting some help from DOT in compiling bridge conditions, pavements
scores, VMTR, traffic information, etc.

D. NYSMPO Annual Meeting review, Aaron
The second annual NYSMPO conference was held in June at West Point;
the brainstorming session on the direction MPOs will be taking was of
special interest (handout); a more direct relationship with federal policy
and FHWa, expanded voting membership, limiting proxy voting, being
more than a conduit of federal funds. A discussion followed regarding the
voting membership qualifications with the point made that elected officials
represent the desires of their constituents.

5. TIP
A. Status of TIP/STIP, Aaron
The TIP and draft STIP are in reasonable agreement with some minor
changes and a couple of larger changes. Dave Rettig explained why Diamond
Point Road (Exit 23) was put back to 2012 due to the problem with 9P???over
the Northway (Exit 14). Additional funding went to 17201 and 17204. No
committee action is needed for these changes. An updated TIP will be online

B. Amendments
A TIP amendment request was made by Greater Glens Falls Transit
(handout). GGFT will purchase one supervisory vehicle utilizing proceeds
from the sale of ’94 trolley. This capital project is to be included in an
upcoming grant application to the FTA in late September. Existing funds that
have already been allocated to GGFT will be utilized and will not require any
reprogramming or additional local funds.

A motion was made to approve the Amendment Request by GGFT


C. Project Updates

a. Warren County, Lisa Penistan
Corinth Road
, RK Hite is working on acquiring property
Beach Road
, had a public meeting at the Town Hall in Lake
George on July 11th. The meeting was not well attended but the
weather could have been a contributing factor. Discussion has
taken place about having another meeting. Comments regarding
the project have been coming in. A meeting was also held with
DEC to discuss their section of Beach Road.

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Woden Mill Bridge
, getting the supplemental approved for the
Historic Documentation, ROW and contract inspection is in the
Tannery and Grist Mill Bridges
, received concurrence on SHPO
and NEPA classification; final design report was sent to DOT and
the County for approval
Harrington Bridge
, getting all the agreements in place so CHA can
Middleton Bridge,
getting scope approved and agreement in
place so FAA can start.

b. Washington County, Willy Grimmke
CR 21
, is complete and open
On August 4 there will be a celebration on the reopening of the
Burkirk, Eagleville and Rexleigh covered bridges after major
reconstruction. There will be a ribbon-cutting ceremony.
CR 42
, blah, blah to Whitehall RR Bridge has the final design
report approaching??????????????HELP

c. Town of Moreau/Saratoga County

d. Glens Falls, Aaron
There was an article in the Post Star regarding the roundabout
and in general the comments were favorable. Dave Rettig
questioned the lack of representation from the City of Glens Falls
at our meetings. Scott Sopczyk said he would talk to Mayor

e. Queensbury, Stu Baker
The connector road project was award to Kubricky Construction
Corp. Work should start this fall. Discussion regarding whether
the traffic generated by the Industrial Park was calculated in the
traffic projections

Mr. Gutheil reported the County water project has been let.

f. NYSDOT, Dave Rettig
The paving has been completed between 26-28. Work on 24-26
began last week.
Rte 4, the issues with Irving Tissue have been worked out.
Clay Hill Road surcharge ???????????
On October 3
rd there will be a Transportation Land Use
Conference in Schenectady
Phase 1 of Rte. 4 should be completed in Feb. 2008. Phase 2
may start in June 2010.

5. Next meeting and adjourn- Next meeting will be held on September 25 at 10am.

Mayor Phinney made a motion to adjourn at 11:02.