Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, March 12, 2008 (draft)

Attendance:
Members
:
Brian Rowback, Regional Director, NYSDOT Region 1
Robert Shay, Supervisor, Town of White Creek
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Bill Rinaldi)
JoAnn Trinkle, Chairman, Washington County Board of Supervisors
Others
:
Brian Brockway, Town of Fort Edward (rep. M. Suprenant)
Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW (rep. F. Monroe)
Gina LeClair, Deputy Supervisor, Town of Moreau
Dave Rettig, RPPM, NYSDOT- Region 1
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County Planning Board

A/GFTC Staff:

Monika Bulman, Administrative Assistant
Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Kristina Hong, Transportation Analyst

I. Welcome & Introductions
1. Introductory remarks- Chairman JoAnn Trinkle called the meeting to order
at 1:37 PM and, on recommendation of staff, declared a quorum of
affected parties.
II. Visitors Issues – None
III. Administration
1. Approval of Officers 2008-2010 (handout)
Aaron explained that the Chairmanship of each committee alternates every
two years between Warren and Washington Counties. 2008 is the first
year of a new two-year cycle.

Motion was made to approve officers for the Policy Committee: JoAnn
Trinkle, Chairman; Dan Stec, Vice Chairman; and Brian Rowback, Secretary;
for the Technical Advisory Committee: Bill Lamy, Chairman; Willy
Grimmke, Vice Chairman

MOVED BY : Bob Shay SECONDED BY: Brian Brockway MOTION CARRIED

Mr. Valentine asked if the Chairmanship would every end up in Saratoga
County. Aaron answered that there was nothing to preclude that should there
be interest expressed by Saratoga County – based representation.

2. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

Motion was made to approve the December 18, 2007 minutes

MOVED BY : Bob Shay SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED
Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
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IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. Transit
A. GGFT Report-Scott Sopczyk – Several weeks ago Betty Little’s
office contacted GGFT regarding the potential of GGFT providing
transportation services to southern Washington County. It was
requested that Scott put together an outline of discussion topics
and hold a meeting for interested parties. Scott also wanted to
express his thanks to NYSDOT for accommodating the installation
of two new passenger shelters as part of the repaving project on
Route 9.

B. Human Services Transportation Plan, Aaron- Seeking approval
of this plan contingent on any comments received before the close
of the public comment period on March 20. The plan is intended to
satisfy a federal requirement that we prepare a locally developed
plan addressing the issues for furthering coordinated human
transportation in our area. A handout portion of the plan, (Vision,
Actions and Recommendations), was distributed to the committee
for discussion. Aaron noted that recently received NYSDOT Region
1 comments were to be incorporated.

A motion was made to approve the Plan with comments included

MOVED BY : Bill Lamy SECONDED BY: Bob Shay MOTION CARRIED

2. Consultant Projects, Aaron
A. Access Management Study, Aaron – Seeking approval today of
this study. Following the last TAC meeting, members were allowed
additional time to review the document and submit comments.
The TAC recommended the AMS to the Policy Committee for
approval. Since we don’t have the ability to reopen the technical
analyses, comments received from NYSDOT R1 regarding certain
driveway closures on certain parcels in the Study will be noted
within the document that the analysis did not take certain elements
into account and that there are other considerations besides
turning movements within an access change.

A motion was made to approve the Study

MOVED BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Brian Brockway MOTION CARRIED

The Study will be delivered to municipalities. Part of the Study product was
the development of an educational slideshow. Mr. Valentine requested a
copy be given to CDTC.

B. Aviation Road Corridor Study, Aaron – At the Town’s request we
have expanded the scope of the study for the consultant to take a
more in-depth look at three individual roundabouts that had been
emerging through the planning process as being beneficial to the
corridor. The scope was expanded for a cost of $14,500.

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C. On-call engineering services, Aaron – wanted to remind
everyone that we do have 3 contracts available with consulting
engineering firms with the express purpose of assisting
municipalities in the form of transportation engineering services.
These were set up to provide municipalities with services for which
we do not have staff expertise. The contracts are capped at $10K
and a local match of 20% is required. Mr. Rettig suggested that
this service be brought more to the attention of our municipalities.
Mr. Rowback pointed out that when we do these types of studies
on state highways, the municipality stands to benefit not only from
consulting services but from a working partnership with DOT.

D. Exit 20 RFP, Aaron – the RFPs for Exit 20 and GIS Services
should go out within the end of the week. Hope to have
consultants on board for the Exit 20 study to allow work to begin
during the summer peak season. Mr. Rowback and his department
will be paying particular attention to the Exit 20 study.
Replacement of aging parking infrastructure at the Outlets could
factor into a recommended improvement package.

3. 2008 UPWP Update Approval, Aaron – This is an administrative update to
revisit the finances and list progress we made on the existing 2007-2009
program. This update was mailed to our committee members for review.

A motion was moved to approve the administrative 2008 UPWP
Update

MOVED BY: Bill Lamy SECONDED BY: Brian Brockway MOTION CARRIED

4. Long Range Plan, Aaron – At previous meetings a list was circulated for
members to note if they wished to review draft LRP chapters as they were
completed. The drafts would be sent to those people. Drafts of the
Highway and Environmental chapters are nearing completion. Dave Rettig
suggested coming up with a timeline so we meet the October
deadline. Aaron affirmed that it was his understanding that conformity
analysis does not need to be redone providing that the horizon year 2030
is consistent with A/GFTC and CDTC.

5. Review of open funding opportunities, Aaron – This is a reminder to
everyone that the Short-Term Accident Reduction Program for local
highways is available. Applications should be received by April 1
st. In
response to a question from the Town of Moreau regarding the
intersection of US 9 and NYS 197, it was clarified that we are not
considering intersections with state highways as part of this program.
This funding is for local, town, village and county highways.
We do not know how much of the regional allocation of $2.0M will be
awarded to A/GFTC-area projects but we hope to select the best projects
for $400K or under that show a small financial investment coupled with a
substantial safety benefit. We will assist applicants with obtaining
accident data upon request. Mr. Rowback said that NYSDOT was not
choosing to not address safety locations on its system through this
program but rather that NYSDOT has its own safety selection process for
its system and this local funding source was established to address
accident histories on locally-owned roadways that often display a
disproportionately high crash history. Furthermore he noted that the

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Department did wish to be informed by local officials of suspected accident
problems on the State system.

V. Transportation Improvement Program(TIP)
1. 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Review of TIP actions Dec 07 to Mar 08, Aaron – Two TIP actions
taken since the last Policy Committee meeting included approving
an additional $1 million for the Rt. 149 job in the Town of
Queensbury and reintroduced County 61 Buffum’s Bridge back
into the program where it belongs.

B. Adjustment of TIP change procedure, Aaron – This is on the
agenda as it pertains to SAFETEALU and its provisions for public
notification and public participation in regards to TIP changes. Any
major amendment needs a 30 public comment period. We are
more or less doing this since any major amendment brought
before the Policy Committee goes before the TAC first, but this will
be formally revised to satisfy the federal organizations.

2. Recent developments or action items for ongoing federal aid projects
A. New York State Department of Transportation, Dave Rettig –
The public meeting for the 197 bridge over the Hudson has not
been held and will probably take place in April. A/GFTC
consideration for changing the scope of the project in the TIP from
a replacement to a rehab has been requested. Since the last Policy
Committee meeting, the department held a transportation forum
on 20-year transportation needs. The existing funding mechanism
rewards fuel consumption and this seems somewhat
counterproductive and places NYS at a disadvantage. Over 20
years $37 billion are set aside for transportation needs. This will
only allow us to keep our system in a little better shape.
Mr. Rettig is trying to set up a meeting with the public and local
officials similar to one that was recently held in the Capital District.
All the elected officials will be invited so they can see what has
been accomplished and what is planned for the area.

B. Warren County DPW, Bill Lamy –
-The Corinth Road/ Exit 18 Corridor Project is currently in ROW
acquisition. Next Wednesday a public meeting on the eminent
domain procedures law will be held. Options for both above ground
power and buried power will be presented. The financial details are
still being worked out.
-The Beach Road Corridor Project, a completed scoping document
has been received and is under review.
-Bridge Projects, they are in various stages of planning.
Stony Creek bridges questions still not answered.
Dave Rettig noted that DOT has a project coming up For Route 9
resurfacing that will require coordination with construction of Beach
Road. The environmental issue of West Brook still needs to be
resolved.

C. Washington County, Willy Grimmke –
– Rte. 42 is under construction. There have been issues with ROW
with one property owner.

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-Whitehall Bridges over the railroad – have ADP under review as
well as comments from the Village. There has been communication
regarding drainage. There is an outstanding issue that the
agreement has to be clear that this is not the county’s bridge.
Washington County DPW is administering the project for the
benefit of the Village. The understanding with the railroad is that
they will be paying non-state, non-federal share. To date Mr.
Grimmke has no signed agreement stating that that is the case and
without that, the County will not advance the project. When it is
time to go to bid, the railroad’s budgeted share must be paid.
-County Rte. 61 is now HBRR-eligible; waiting for a revised
proposal from consultant
-County Rte. 113 over the Battenkill and County 41 reconstruction,
consultant selection is starting
-County 68, should have permission to advertise soon

D. Saratoga/Town of Moreau, Gina LeClair – question re:9/197 was
raised earlier in meeting.

E. City of Glens Falls – no representation

F. Town of Queensbury – no representation

Other Items:

Availability of the enhancement program, Aaron
Deadline for enhancement projects is June 27. Workshops will be held here in April.
Brief discussion on Rogers Island project and the how the selection process is
determined. Mr. Rettig will check on whether Marcheselli funds are available.

Also, question regarding 372 bridge in Greenwich was addressed to Mr. Rettig.
There will be a Village election in several weeks so the meeting should be postponed
until then.

Mr. Brockway let everyone know that the Rte 4 project will start up again and that
there will be detours starting on the 17
th.

VI. Next meeting and adjourn
Next meeting is anticipated in June.
A motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 2:57.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC February 8, 2008
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning 761-6410 761-6411
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Joe Sullivan City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Walter Young LC/LGRPB 668-5773 668-5774
Others

Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Bill Lamy called the meeting to order at
10:03.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –

A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the November 13th meeting minutes.

MOVED BY: Joe Sullivan SECONDED BY: Wayne LaMothe MOTION CARRIED

B. Air quality conformity resolution (handout), Aaron
This new resolution is required based on the fact that CDTC approved its
2030 long range plan. A/GFTC and CDTC are in the same air quality
non-attainment area and both are required to demonstrate conformity.
The plan has been put out for public comment. None were received. As no
non-exempt projects are planned for the Town of Moreau, we can continue to
state that we are in compliance with air quality conformity.

A motion was made to approve the resolution

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Joe Sullivan MOTION CARRIED

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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C. Annual List of Obligated Projects (handout), Aaron
This is a re-emphasized federal requirement from SAFETEA designed to
improve the transparency of the federal transportation planning process. It is
an annual list of federal obligated projects and will be available on our web-
site. Mr. Sullivan had a question about funds remaining for the Warren Street
project and was told the project may not yet be closed out.
D. In-kind service forms (handout), Aaron
New committee members or those with salary changes should complete the
form and return it to A/GFTC as soon as possible.

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Transit
1. GGFT Update, Scott Sopczyk
Since the last meeting, some transit evening services have been initiated
between Fort Edward and Upper Glen. There has been a small but steady
ridership. Plans for summer trolley service are underway. There will be
an Advisory Committee Meeting next week. New vehicles will be delivered
in May.
2. AlterNet Rides, Aaron
This is an internet car pool initiative. At this time 6 people have signed up
as users. Glens Falls Hospital and The Great Escape are interested in
sponsoring their own pages on the site. They will contribute to what it
costs us to establish their locations as destinations and this will in turn
allow them to have some control of online features. In the future we want
to advertise this service on a larger scale. We have received good press
about the initiative.

Mr. Sopczyk mentioned that the Town of Queensbury and the Adirondack
Regional Chamber of Commerce have expressed interest in sponsoring
some bus shelters on Rte. 9. Additional bus/trolley shelters may become
a possibility at locations where repaving is planned.

Mr. Jenkins relayed to Mr. Sopczyk the interest seniors have in a regular
bus service at the Third Street Midtown Apartments. On-demand bus
service is available via a phone call, but existing services can be
reevaluated if there is significant need.

3. Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan (handout)
This draft is available on line. The Plan is required by Federal Transit
Administration to be in place in order to access three different FTA
programs: Section 5310-Elderly and individuals with disabilities; Section
5316-Job access and reverse commute (JARC); Section 5317-New
freedom. The draft plan contains some census data, reasons why there is
a need to do the plan and geographic analysis. The preliminary materials
and results from our survey were shared with a number of human services
agencies that had returned the original survey. Aaron reviewed the draft
plan in depth for the TAC and discussed some of the modifications and
additions to the draft that will be forthcoming. Aaron asked for approval
of the draft with the additions and updates for public comment. The
desire is to start the public comment period around the 12
th. To make
certain that one has the current draft on our web site, checking the post
date was suggested.

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A motion was made to approve the draft edited CHSTP for public comment

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

4. FTA passenger mile survey, Aaron
GGFT asked us to repeat the 2005 survey again to satisfy a Federal
Transit Administration requirement. Approximately 500 bus/trolley rides
are necessary to complete the survey. This year in addition to our staff,
temporary clerks will be hired. FTA requires that this passenger mile
study be done every three years to allow the allocation of federal funds
in urbanized areas with a population of over 200,000. Mr. Sopczyk is
hopeful that the new buses coming for 2009 will have passenger counters
and a way to automate and make the calculations required easier.
B. Consultant Activities
1. Access Management study, Aaron Most of the chapters are on line for
review. It is a large document. There was been good committee
participation on this study. This project has been on our work program for
quite some time (1999) and ended up being a regional study.
a. Presentation of final document-Aaron gave the presentation to
the TAC focusing on the results of two of the four case studies:
Rte. 9 (Upper Glen Street in Qsby) and NYS 32 (Dix Avenue in
Kingsbury). The guidebook includes the two other case studies:
NYS 197 in Moreau and Quaker Road in Queensbury. There is a
great deal of technical documentation included. We would like to
recommend this guidebook for Policy Committee consideration to
adopt it.

Mr. Rettig requested more time to have the guidebook reviewed
by his staff. A letter will be sent out to the TAC to get approval
for the guidebook by the 29
th of February so it can be presented
to the Policy Committee.

2. Aviation Road Corridor study, Aaron
a. Status of Work: An expansion of the scope of work has been
requested by the Town of Queensbury and the Queensbury
School District. Three primary intersection improvements were
identified; all three involve possible roundabouts. Queensbury
would like the consultants to analyze the locations of the
potential roundabouts more carefully. ROW was discussed. The
revised price to reanalyze the three locations was $14K. Mr.
LaMothe questioned if the School had completed their Master
Plan. Aaron said the contents of the Plan are known to include a
new access on the western end of the campus; they are looking
at a modification to the main entrance (a roundabout).

A motion was requested to allow the consultant to go ahead with
the analysis

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Joe Sullivan MOTION CARRIED

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3. Upcoming RFPs, Aaron
Hope to have the RFP out for Exit 20 soon.

About a year ago Mr. Lamy and Mr. Bill Thomas met with DOT-Region 1 to
talk about the Exit 20 corridor. Mr. Lamy received a letter recently from
Mark Kennedy describing their findings regarding signal coordination and
issues with backups on the ramp. A copy will be sent to A/GFTC.

Mr. LaMothe pointed out that there are 21 curb cuts from the exit ramp to
the traffic light at 149. This is the same amount of square footage as the
original Crossgates Mall and there is 1/3 of the parking. The initial
recommendation from the County Planning Board when the first project
was presented was to put in service roads but the Town of Queensbury did
not wish to do so.

The GIS RFP would allow someone to come in and look at our data
system. This would include scanning the other MPOs around the state to
see what types of things they are doing with GIS. We want to improve
our internet mapping capabilities. Hope to get this RFP out soon.

Mr. Rettig invited A/GFTC staff to attend a regional GIS coordination
meeting on February 20
th at the regional office.

C. Staff Activities
1. Long Range Plan, Aaron
In the next several weeks staff will be able to resume work on various
chapters of the Plan.

2. Local System Short Term Accident Reduction, Aaron
Several months ago Mr. Rettig came to a TAC meeting and outlined the
desired direction of STP safety money as a local system short term
accident reduction program that would be funded by taking the safety
allocation and turning it over to locals on a regional basis. This would
allow the 8-county region to select projects based upon the most pressing
identifiable safety needs. CDTC has decided that they are entitled to a 70-
75% sub-allocation of these funds. As a result 3 solicitations within the
Region will need to be done.

D. 2008 UPWP Updates (handout), Aaron
We are required to do an administrative update. Last year we had a two year
work program approved. We will go back to a one year work program after
this year. The financial tables reflect carryovers and new FHWA funds.
One major change in the narrative is the description of technical services
contract that we would administer as a Shared Cost Initiative (an NYSMPO
mechanism for taking funds that would have gone to an individual MPO off
the top of the allocations and pooling them towards consulting studies that
are of value to all). This is being changed to hosting a software and
visualization standardization cost initiative.

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5. TIP
A. Amendments, Aaron
The processed amendments included getting Buffum’s Bridge back in the
program and a $1 million NHS amendment for ROW acquisition for the 149
job.

Mr. Rettig reported that statewide, NHS funds are tremendously over
programmed.

B. Project Update
1. Warren County, Jeff Tennyson
Alder Brook Road
, have received proposals and are in the consultant
selection phase
Grist Mill Road
and Tannery, expect a small increase on some
construction costs for Tannery Bridge; to proceed with the two bridges
at the same time and to provide a single detour has undergone some
review by DOT.
Beach Road
, expect scoping soon
Corinth Road,
the Town of Queensbury has decided to pursue
underground utilities regardless of whether they win their court case or
not. ROW money is being distributed. Aaron asked if the Town is now
committed to paying for the underground utilities. A Town Resolution
is expected. Construction may start at the earliest in the spring of
2009.
Woolen Mill Bridge,
is stalled in ROW incidentals and acquisitions;
expecting some final resolution and hoping to move forward
2. Washington County – no report
3. Town of Moreau, Preston Jenkins
Had nothing to report
4. Glens Falls, Joe Sullivan
Working on paving schedule.
5. Queensbury – no report
6. NYSDOT, Dave Rettig
NYS 149-NYS 372
, There is a slope failure on NYS 372,
consequently this cannot wait and has to be accelerated into the
149 project.
197 over East Branch of Hudson
, still need to have a public
meeting since the project is now a rehab not a replacement.
Rte 372
, there will be an advisory committee meeting

On February 15 there will be a 20 years needs roundtable
discussion at DOT, Wolf Road from 1 to 3:30. The Commissioner
will give a presentation at this meeting. Subtopics will include
energy and environment.

5. Next meeting and adjourn- Will schedule the next meeting as needed. Mr.
LaMothe made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 12:34.

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, December 18, 2007

Attendance:

Members:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Harry Gutheil, Supervisor, Town of Moreau
James Lindsay, Supervisor, Town of Kingsbury
Brian Rowback, Regional Director, NYSDOT Region 1
Dan Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Louis Tessier, Supervisor, Town of Lake George
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Bill Rinaldi)
William Thomas, Chairman, Warren County Board of Supervisors
JoAnn Trinkle, Chairman, Washington County Board of Supervisors

Others:

Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW
Dave Rettig, NYSDOT- Region 1
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
John Wheatley, EDC Warren County

A/GFTC Staff:

Monika Bulman, Administrative Assistant
Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director

Prior to the official start of the meeting Aaron expressed appreciation to Mr. Thomas
and Mr. Gutheil for their many years of supportive contribution to our Committee.
They will be missed. We wish them well in their retirement.

I. Welcome & Introductions
A. Introductory remarks-Chairman William Thomas introduced Mr. Brian
Rowback, the new Regional Director for NYSDOT Region 1.
Mr. Rowback has been in his current position since October 1, having
previously worked in the Main Office in addition to previous experience
with an MPO. He is working on becoming familiar with the unique regional
issues and the regional program. He assured the Policy Committee he is a
hands-on person and is accessible. Mr. Rowback commented on the
Adirondack Park (three separate regions cover the Park) and the need for
uniformity. Mr. Lamy expressed his concerns to Mr. Rowback with pass
through projects and the backlog with the State Comptrollers Office. Mr.
Grimmke indicated he was very happy with residency relationships.

Chairman Bill Thomas called the formal Policy Committee to order at
10:17 am.
II. Visitors Issues – None
III. Administration
1. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

Motion was made to approve the June 13, 2007 minutes

MOVED BY : Dan Stec SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED
Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. Transit
A. GGFT Report-Scott Sopczyk (handout)
Two small buses will be replaced in 2008; an agreement will be
entered to replace larger buses in 2009; new trolleys with air
conditioning were put into service this year; extended evening
services have started and will operate on a trial basis through
June; an agreement has been entered with West Mountain ski
center to operate a shuttle service between Glens Falls and the
West Mountain facility to accommodate skiers and employees;
overall ridership in 2007 was up except for FAME.
B. AlterNet Rides development-Aaron, GGFT brought an internet-
based carpooling match finding service to A/GFTC’s attention; it
is now on our website. It allows members to search for or offer
rides to 20 preset destinations. Membership is free. Corporate
sponsorship is what A/GFTC would like to obtain to support this
program. Destinations include Glens Falls Hospital, City of Glens
Falls, Washington County Municipal Center, Sagamore Resort,
etc. A/GFTC has paid for the web application. The Aviation Mall
had security and capacity concerns for a park and ride and after
some discussion, Dave Rettig has agreed to have Region 1 staff
contact the mall to pursue a possible leasing arrangement.

2. Consultant Projects, Aaron
A. Access Management Study-expecting production of the final
document to begin next week; the report will be presented to the
Policy Committee at its next meeting for MPO adoption.
B. Aviation Road Corridor Study-the study advisory committee will
be meeting today at 3; in June there was a very well attended
public workshop at the Ramada; we had over 60 people; the
documentation of the plan needs work; the recommendations are
very solid and have good support from the School and the Town.
Intersection modifications were examined; a series of
roundabouts appear to be very beneficial work. A revised draft of
the plan will be posted on our website.
C. Traffic Count Program-we just received our second season of
traffic count data from our consultant; we are in the process of
reviewing this new information against our old count data.
D. On-call engineering services-Aaron wanted to remind everyone
that we do have 3 contracts available with consulting engineering
firms with the express purpose of assisting municipalities in the
form of transportation engineering services. These were set up to
provide municipalities with services that we do not have staff
expertise for. The contracts are capped at $10K and a local
match of 20% is required. Brief discussion ensued regarding Exit
20.

3. Staff Activities – Aaron
A. Long Range Plan Update,
1. Status of Plan development/draft chapter
The Plan has been taken on at a chapter by chapter basis; the
introductory materials, setting, goals and objectives,
summary of public survey results, draft copies of the

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public transportation chapter and the bridge chapter are
completed; we still have considerable work remaining on the
highway chapter, need to update the bicycle and pedestrian
chapter and a chapter on rail and freight and finances.

2. Review and approval of draft Principles-(handout)
Aaron envisions the Principles as a conclusion to the
Long Range Plan. These set general policies for the Council as it
considers future projects and programs.

A motion was made to approve the Principles

MOVED BY : JoAnn Trinkle SECONDED BY: Dan Stec MOTION CARRIED

B. Coordinated Human Services Transportation Program-Aaron
This Program is a required Plan in order for areas to access three
different Federal Transit Administration programs designed to provide
additional transportation services for elderly and disabled individuals
as well as access to jobs and reverse commuting. Since the last
meeting, tabulations of a number of returned surveys from municipal
department heads have been completed. A funding prioritization
strategy for the program needs to be established. Hope to complete
this Plan before April.

V. Transportation Improvement Program(TIP)
1. Recent development or action items
for ongoing federal aid projects:
A. New York State Department of Transportation, Dave Rettig –
Most of the projects have been shut down during winter; several
projects are in design; at the last TAC meeting, Mary Ricard,
Project Manager for the 197 bridge, explained the reasoning for
the change in the scope of the project and the need for a TIP
amendment. At the TAC the consensus was that DOT allow the
public to hear more about the project before changing the
original scope. There will be a public informational meeting on
this project. Region 1 staff and Aaron attended a meeting at
CDTC to discuss a proposed local highway STAR (short-term
accident reduction) program. The MPOs agreed with the Region1
proposal to apply all of the Region’s STP Safety money to this
program, using a data driven approach with no suballocations.
Discussion took place regarding source and use of accident data.
B. Warren County, Bill Lamy
▪Corinth/Exit 18 Corridor-in the process of acquiring ROW; going
through the actual payment of checks to property owners for
about half of the of the 90 parcels that will need to be acquired.
There has been a statute change in the eminent domain process
resulting in the need for another public hearing. Working closely
with the Town of Queensbury to come to an ultimate decision on
whether the undergrounding of utilities is the way the project will
be presented in final design. It is doubtful this project will be
under construction in 2008.
▪The Beach Road Corridor – The County has partnered with
NYSDEC to do the entire corridor. 60% of the road is owned by
Warren County, 40% by NYSDEC. There have been several public
informational meetings. Close to finalizing a scoping document.

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▪Construction on the Padanarum Road Bridge in the Town of
Bolton is completed.
C. Washington County DPW, Willy Grimmke
▪Since the last Policy Committee, the following bridge projects
have been completed: County Rte. 21 over the Mettawee in the
Town of Granville, and the rehabilitation Buskirk, Eagleville and
Rexleigh Covered Bridges.
▪County Rte. 12 over the Mettawee in Granville is under design
▪County Rte. 42 in the Town of Fort Edward is under construction
and should be complete in the spring of 2008
▪County Rte. 41 getting ready to go to consultant selection
▪County Rte. 61 over the Battenkill has been reopened
D. Saratoga County/Town of Moreau, Harry Gutheil – no recent
developmentss

E.
City of Glens Falls, no representation present
F.
Town of Queensbury, Dan Stec
▪Rte 149, business owners are concerned about the duration the
timing of the closure on Rte. 149. Mr. Stec hoped it would be
possible to pick and choose what end of the stretch the
construction would start on. The suggestion was also made to
have a second or off shift construction schedule to expedite the
work.
▪Rte 9 will be resurfaced, going from city line to Round Pond Rd.
▪Bridge slated for replacement on 9L near Haviland Road
▪Dunhams Bay Bridge in Lake George has very low clearance and
should have greater clearance.
2. 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Plan
A. Status of STIP, the STIP has been approved
B. TIP Changes/Amendments
• Make the Connection Program, Aaron
This program allowed for small – scale bike/pedestrian
projects. Our solicitations resulted in 4 applications.
Three applications were accommodated in full in addition to
the partial funding of the fourth request.
C. Annual Listing of Obligated Projects, Aaron
MPOs have to put together a list of obligated projects. We are
working on it.
Mr. Rowback had some closing comments, noting his favorable
impression with scope of the MPO activities.
Mr. Gutheil asked about Exit 12.

VI. Next meeting and adjourn
Hope to have a meeting in March
Mr. Thomas adjourned the meeting at 11:40.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC September 25, 2007
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Mayor LeRoy Akins City of Glens Falls 761-3804 761-0234
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290
Dale Granger City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
Harry Gutheil Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Walter Young LC/LGRPB 668-5773 668-5774
Others

Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
John Wheatley EDC Warren County 761-6007
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting to
order at 10:05.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the July 24
th meeting minutes.
MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

B. Host agency agreement-Aaron, A/GFTC has opted to renew the host
agency agreement with the LC/LGRPB for four years beginning in 2008. The
LC/LGRPB has also passed a resolution in support of this and has forwarded it
to DOT. No additional administrative action is needed.

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
a. Aviation Road, Aaron
Since the last meeting, there have been two study advisory committee
meetings. The public work session held at the Ramada Inn was well
attended (60+ people). The presentation to the public was a segment by
segment and intersection by intersection look at the alternatives available
based on the feedback received from the consultants. Aaron distributed a
copy of the alternatives presented at the meeting for members to look
over. The consultants are working on traffic projections, a build out

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analysis, etc. Roundabouts are being proposed. The study goes to West
Mountain Road/Aviation Road intersection at the request of the County.
Suggestions regarding the high accident rates at WMR included
additional advisory signage, narrowing the striping, flashers on the other
side of the road, traffic signal.
b. Access Management, Aaron
RSG is working on the revisions to the access management guidebook.
Most of the technical documentation is already in place. The educational
slideshow is complete. Aaron and Bob Chamberlin will present the topic at
the Region 1 Planning and Land Use Conference on October 3
rd. The same
topic will be discussed at the Saratoga Planning Conference on January
30
th. Aaron gave examples of some of the locations with access issues
(sight distance, approach angle) and the possibility of using medians in
some areas.
c. HSTP, Aaron
Not much has been done on this since the last meeting. Draft of the
introductory material is in place. Scott Sopczyk has had an opportunity to
review the draft. Pete Rae will also review the draft. A meeting with
Washington County has been set up for Friday, September 28. The
services that need to be improved will need to be prioritized and a project
selection methodology needs to be developed.
d. Long Range Plan, Aaron (handouts)
A completed draft of the public survey results was distributed. The
responses to the survey questions are graphically represented. Mr.
Sopczyk and Mr. Rettig have had an opportunity to review the draft.
Committee members were requested to look over the draft. Aaron went
over some of the results. Currently staff is working on pavement
condition analysis, bridge condition analysis (draft handout). A mistake
located on the top graph, locally owned bridges in Washington County are
shown as being 27% deficient but should be 24%.
e. Make the Connection applications, Aaron
This was the bike/pedestrian spot improvement. We had $200K in
unmatched federal funds available for this round of funding. Every other
year this program will be available. Four applications were received: the
Village of So. Glens Falls, the City of Glens Falls, Warren County Park and
Recreation and the Village of Whitehall. Scott Sopczyk, Mike Valentine,
Willy Grimmke and Aaron will review the applications and make a
determination. This meeting will take place after the TAC. Once the
selections are made, another meeting will be set up with the project
sponsors and Region 1 reps.

5. TIP
A. Status of TIP/STIP, Aaron
Notification was received this week that air quality conformity has been
determined for the TIP.

B. Amendments,(handouts) Aaron
Whitehall RR bridges
-when we went through the project selection portion
of developing the TIP, the Region came to us with some revised numbers
as to what was affordable. The two bridges in Whitehall are
being reconstructed to provide vertical clearance for double stacked
freight cars on the Canadian Rail. These two projects are being
reinstated. This does not impact anyone else’s bridge schedule.

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A motion was made to approve the Amendment Request by Washington County

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Dave Rettig MOTION CARRIED

NYS RT.197 bridge over the Hudson
-this probably qualifies in TIP jargon as
a significant scope change to an existing project. What is being proposed
by the Region is to rehabilitate rather than replace the 197 bridge
over the Hudson River (East Branch). The question raised, are we allowed
to federally fund a rehabilitation of a functionally obsolete (FO) structure
that doesn’t fix the FO? The question was asked why is there a scope
change now? It was decided to table this amendment until the next TAC
meeting in November. Mr. Rettig will bring Mary Ricard to our next TAC
meeting to answer questions.

C. Project Updates
a. Warren County, Bill Lamy
Corinth Road
, have actively been pursuing the acquisition of right
away. As soon as the master agreement is processed completely
by the State, payments can be made and property can be
procured. If everything goes as planned, bidding should take
place and construction should start in the spring.
Quaker Road Signals
, A meeting was held with Frank Bonafide
and other staff at DOT and the agreement was made that they
would go out and check the signals and hardware/software.
What is currently in place needs to be reprogrammed. DOT
volunteered to work with local representatives who have
maintained the signal lights in the past.
Beach Road Project,
a second public informational meeting was
held, received comments and sometime before the end of the
month an alternative plan should be received from the
consultant. This plan will be presented to the public.
Bridges
, busy trying to get master agreements updated, getting
cash flow in place and just have some minor engineering work to
do on some of the bridges. On October 1 consultant selection will
take place on Alder Brook Bridge.

b. Washington County, Willy Grimmke
CR 42
, moving along
Covered Bridges
, they are complete; had the ribbon cutting on
August 4th.
Whitehall Bridges
, is preparing to send design approval
CR 12
, is on hold because of schedule delay but hope to work
with DOT for an amendment to our agreement.
c. Town of Moreau/Saratoga County
Mr. Gutheil asked if there was any news regarding the Round
Lake Bypass. Mr. Gutheil realized that this a questions for the
other MPO. Mr. Rettig reported that DOT is trying to award it.
d. Glens Falls, Dale Granger
The roundabout is just about done; the trees are finally in. Mr.
Granger thanked everyone for their assistance on this project.
e. Queensbury, no representation
Mr. Wheatley had a question regarding the status of the eastern
part of Quaker Road. The project had been on the capital
program but had to be deferred because of rising costs of other

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projects. Mr. Wheatley also asked what is happening with Exit
20: A study will take place once Aviation Road and Access
Management projects are complete. Data collection at Exit 20
should take place next year during peak traffic season.
f. NYSDOT, Dave Rettig
The deadline to registeration for the October
3rd Transportation
Land Use Conference in Schenectady has been extended. The
number of people registered is smaller than anticipated. Mr.
Rettig suggested calling Pat, his secretary, to register.The
legislation that was recently signed that has to do with
congestion pricing in NY requires a form of program update. The
Department is attempting to get some input from MPOs on how
to handle this. It is not clear what “new program” means in the
legislation. This should take place by March. The STIP is very
late and needs to get out for public review by October 5
th. There
are political issues at NYMTC that are delaying their TIP. Not
delaying the design portion of the HBRR projects may turn out to
be good strategy, as it is not unreasonable to expect the
possibility of a larger bridge program that may allow delayed
projects to be accelerated.
g. Greater Glens Falls Transit, Scott Sopczyk (agenda omission)
Ridership on the trolleys was up 20%; overall ridership through
the end of August was up by 5%. Will be replacing small buses
in 2008 and larger buses in 2009. Funding appropriations are in
place for this. Still waiting on results from the community
services for transportation grant applications. This would provide
funding for operating some evening hour transportation services.
h. Other – Mark Galough- the bio-diesel facility in Hampton is going
through the final permitting process. Peckham has purchased a
facility at the intersection of 149 and the Canal. They have
applied for funding and gone before the Town Planning Board on
several occasions. Anticipate increased traffic, certainly rail
traffic, at that facility. At the Industrial Park at the airport there
are currently 3 buildings under construction on the Kingsbury
side and another one should be obtaining a building permit in the
next two weeks.

Mr. Wheatley-the Queensbury Industrial Road construction has
started.

5. Next meeting and adjourn- Next meeting will be held on November 13 at 10am.

Mayor Phinney made a motion to adjourn at 11:26 .

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC July 24, 2007
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Stuart Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
Harry Gutheil Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Others

Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
John Wheatley EDC Warren County 761-6007
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting to
order at 10:05.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the May 24
th meeting minutes.
MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Mayor Phinney MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)

A. Aviation Road, Aaron
A project newsletter went out to committee members and to people who
had attended the first public meeting. The newsletter is available on line.
The school board met yesterday to discuss the Master Site Plan.
Consideration is being given to a new access point west of the campus.
An Advisory Committee meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday at 2 at the
Queensbury Town Office Building. A second public work session will be
scheduled for August or September.

B. Access Management, Aaron
The technical document is complete; working with RSG to revise the
guidebook to include suggestions from the study committee; will delay
training classes for planning and zoning board personnel until next year;
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functions (Oct. 3
rd Land Use Conference and/or the Saratoga Safety
Planning Conference).

C. Progress on HSTP and LRP, Aaron
(handout) The draft introductory material based upon available
demographics and survey data is complete, but we would like to have
comments from DOT and committee members before the material is
submitted to the public. Would like comments back within 2 to 3 weeks.
The next step will be to formulate an action plan with the survey
respondents and interested municipalities. The intent was to have a
rewritten survey analysis available to handout today, but it will be emailed
to committee members in several weeks. Assistance with the LRP includes
getting some help from DOT in compiling bridge conditions, pavements
scores, VMTR, traffic information, etc.

D. NYSMPO Annual Meeting review, Aaron
The second annual NYSMPO conference was held in June at West Point;
the brainstorming session on the direction MPOs will be taking was of
special interest (handout); a more direct relationship with federal policy
and FHWa, expanded voting membership, limiting proxy voting, being
more than a conduit of federal funds. A discussion followed regarding the
voting membership qualifications with the point made that elected officials
represent the desires of their constituents.

5. TIP
A. Status of TIP/STIP, Aaron
The TIP and draft STIP are in reasonable agreement with some minor
changes and a couple of larger changes. Dave Rettig explained why Diamond
Point Road (Exit 23) was put back to 2012 due to the problem with 9P???over
the Northway (Exit 14). Additional funding went to 17201 and 17204. No
committee action is needed for these changes. An updated TIP will be online
tomorrow.

B. Amendments
A TIP amendment request was made by Greater Glens Falls Transit
(handout). GGFT will purchase one supervisory vehicle utilizing proceeds
from the sale of ’94 trolley. This capital project is to be included in an
upcoming grant application to the FTA in late September. Existing funds that
have already been allocated to GGFT will be utilized and will not require any
reprogramming or additional local funds.

A motion was made to approve the Amendment Request by GGFT

MOVED BY: Dave Rettig SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

C. Project Updates

a. Warren County, Lisa Penistan
Corinth Road
, RK Hite is working on acquiring property
Beach Road
, had a public meeting at the Town Hall in Lake
George on July 11th. The meeting was not well attended but the
weather could have been a contributing factor. Discussion has
taken place about having another meeting. Comments regarding
the project have been coming in. A meeting was also held with
DEC to discuss their section of Beach Road.

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Woden Mill Bridge
, getting the supplemental approved for the
Historic Documentation, ROW and contract inspection is in the
works.
Tannery and Grist Mill Bridges
, received concurrence on SHPO
and NEPA classification; final design report was sent to DOT and
the County for approval
Harrington Bridge
, getting all the agreements in place so CHA can
start
Middleton Bridge,
getting scope approved and agreement in
place so FAA can start.

b. Washington County, Willy Grimmke
CR 21
, is complete and open
On August 4 there will be a celebration on the reopening of the
Burkirk, Eagleville and Rexleigh covered bridges after major
reconstruction. There will be a ribbon-cutting ceremony.
CR 42
, blah, blah to Whitehall RR Bridge has the final design
report approaching??????????????HELP

c. Town of Moreau/Saratoga County

d. Glens Falls, Aaron
There was an article in the Post Star regarding the roundabout
and in general the comments were favorable. Dave Rettig
questioned the lack of representation from the City of Glens Falls
at our meetings. Scott Sopczyk said he would talk to Mayor
Akins.

e. Queensbury, Stu Baker
The connector road project was award to Kubricky Construction
Corp. Work should start this fall. Discussion regarding whether
the traffic generated by the Industrial Park was calculated in the
traffic projections

Mr. Gutheil reported the County water project has been let.

f. NYSDOT, Dave Rettig
The paving has been completed between 26-28. Work on 24-26
began last week.
Rte 4, the issues with Irving Tissue have been worked out.
Clay Hill Road surcharge ???????????
On October 3
rd there will be a Transportation Land Use
Conference in Schenectady
Phase 1 of Rte. 4 should be completed in Feb. 2008. Phase 2
may start in June 2010.

5. Next meeting and adjourn- Next meeting will be held on September 25 at 10am.

Mayor Phinney made a motion to adjourn at 11:02.

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Attendance:

Members:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Harry Gutheil, Chairman, Saratoga County Board of Supervisors
James Lindsay, Supervisor, Town of Kingsbury
Bob Phinney, Mayor, Village of South Glens Falls
Merrilyn Pulver, Supervisor, Town of Fort Edward
Dave Rettig, NYSDOT- Region 1
Robert Shay, Supervisor, Town of White Creek
Dan Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
William Thomas, Chairman, Warren County Board of Supervisors
JoAnn Trinkle, Chairman, Washington County Board of Supervisors
Walter Young, Director, LC/LGRPB

Others:
Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW
Lisa Penistan, Warren County DPW
Joe Rich, FHWA
Scott Sopczyk, Director, Greater Glens Falls Transit
Steve Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp
A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Kristina Hong, Transportation Analyst

I. Welcome & Introductions
Chairman Bill Thomas called the Policy Committee to order at 10:07 am.
II. Visitors Issues-
Jeff Jacobs inquired about the lack of bicycle and pedestrian accomodations
on the newly paved and striped West Mountain Road in Queensbury. Mr. Stec
deferred discussion to Chairman Thomas, who in turn, allowed Bill Lamy to
explain the decision to not stripe for bikes. Mr. Lamy explained that Warren
County DPW had looked into bicycle lanes for the entirety of West Mountain
Road, and that for a safe travel lane, the County would invoke eminent
domain to in order to acquire ROW from some residents along the road. The
DPW Committee then voted to not use eminent domain since the lanes would
be for recreation purposes. Mr. Jacobs countered that shared shoulders along
the road would not require eminent domain to be used, and that travel along
West Mountain Road would not be for just recreational uses, and that bicycle
lanes are also a mode of transportation. Chairman Thomas reiterated that Mr.
Jacobs’ complaints were best directed at him in his capacity as Chairman of
the Board of Supervisors.

III. Administration
1. Approval of last meeting’s minutes
Motion was made to approve the March 14, 2007 minutes

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: JoAnn Trinkle MOTION CARRIED
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IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. Transit Report – GGFT – Scott Sopczyk handed out and discussed GGFT’s
report. Three new diesel, air-conditioned trolley have been placed into
service this Spring. GGFT is also planning to replace four 16-passenger
minibuses in 2008 and four 30ft transit buses in 2009 in order to meet
2007 diesel emissions standards. Additionally, GGFT is working with
downtown businesses and attractions to operate a trolley loop through the
central business districts this Summer on a demonstration basis.
A proposed 25 cent base fare increase is expected to be effective in July
after a public comment period. There will also be a series of public forums
in late June for comments and suggestions on GGFT services.
2. Consultant Projects-Aaron
a. Access Management Study-RSG has finished the Educational Slide
Show to share with the public and municipal board members.
Additionally, the Regional Guidebook is nearly finished, as is the
technical documentation that illustrates many of the scenarios of traffic
demand resulting from increased development. A letter was also sent
out to municipalities about a Summer workshop asking for credit for
planning and zoning members that attend. Hopefully the finished
product will be ready for adoption by the next meeting and that
municipalities will in turn adopt the guidebook.
b. Aviation Road Corridor Study – The study has progressed slowly as
Wilbur Smith Assoc. and the Chazen Companies wait for developments
from the School District about their next steps. The study scope has
been expanded to include the intersection with West Mountain Road.
There is a July being scheduled to discuss alternatives. Mr. Stec
emphasized the community desire to see some results from this
process.
c. Traffic Count Program-Lochner Engineering is being retained to do
additional traffic counts. The next count will come in August to better
understand our peak seasonal traffic. If there are other municipal
count requests, we can forward them to our consultant for
consideration.
d. On-call Engineering Services- From eleven received proposals, staff
selected the firms of Creighton Manning Engineering, Chazen
Companies and Resource Systems Group. The three cover a range of
expertise. Municipalities that wish to take advantage of the program
should contact Aaron with candidate projects. Study amounts are
limited to $10,000 including local match.
3. Staff Activities – Aaron
a. Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan
This plan is required to access funding from three FTA programs.
Meetings were held with both Washington and Warren County Boards
to discuss transit services in each county, and surveys were distributed
to department heads to better understand the populations served and
underserved. 24 surveys were returned, and now a census-based
needs assessment is being under development.
b. SAFETEA Compliance/ Long Range Plan update
The Committee has received the SAFETEA Compliance Plan which
addresses our efforts to continue to comply with federal mandates of
the transportation bill. Work on the Long Range Plan continues; we
are keeping in step with work that CDTC is finishing on air quality
conformity, and are on track to finish in the fall.

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V. Transportation Improvement Program (TIP)
1. Discussion altered from agenda – The handouts)represent schedule and
funding changes since the last approved draft TIP. No deletions to projects
have been made. All dates indicate construction years.
A. NYSDOT – Dave Rettig
The Regional offices have been dealing with a lot of
overprogramming on a statewide level – and changes needed to
be made in order to provide funds for many of the projects.
Typically the MO is willing to accept minor overprogramming but
will not during this cycle. The two handouts of changes to the
2007-2012 TIP illustrate those projects that have delayed or
otherwise changed to preserve fiscal constraint. (list was
reviewed).
B. Warren County – Bill Lamy
All of the bridge projects are moving ahead in one form or
another. The Corinth Road project is in the ROW acquisition
phase, and there was recently a DOT meeting to make sure there
was enough funding for this project. The Connector Road is also
progressing, and the hope is for Spring 2008 construction.
Warren County is additionally entering into a partnership with the
Department of Environmental Conservation to do a reconstruction
of Beach Road in Lake George. The beginnings of scoping are
moving ahead there.
C. Washington County – Willy Grimmke
Covered bridge projects are nearly done. Buffum’s bridge was
recently red flagged, so hopefully the inspection report will be
forwarded quickly so the bridge can be added to the HBRR list.
Discussion ensued about the 197 bridge over the Hudson being
functionally obsolete, and that rehabilitation does not seem to be
the best option, although DOT is considering not replacing the
structure due to historical artifacts in the land around the site.
D. Saratoga County/ Town of Moreau
Mr. Gutheil wonders if the Spiers Falls intersection realignment
will include Fortsville Road, and also if a left turn signal from the
westbound portion of 197 to the southbound portion of Route 9
will be in place any time soon. Aaron will check on both items.
E. City of Glens Falls – Not Present.
F. Town of Queensbury
Nothing to report outside of the Aviation Road study.
2. Draft 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Review of changes from previous draft (handout)
B. Approval of final 2007-2012 TIP and Air Quality conformity
Determination
A Motion was made to approve the final 2007-2012 TIP and Air
Quality Conformity Determination

MOVED BY: Dan Stec SECONDED BY: Harry Gutheil MOTION CARRIED

VI. Other Business
Irving Tissue would like access improvements as part of the Route 4
reconstruction. Dave Rettig noted that a formal request must be sent to his
office very soon in order for that to happen.
VII. Next meeting and Adjourn
September 12 at 1:30 PM – Warren County Municipal Center, Room 6-103
The meeting adjourned at 11:30.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC May 24, 2007
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Stuart Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Michael Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls 747-4544 747-5597
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Mike Valentine Saratoga Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Others

Frank Bonafide NYSDOT 388-0424 388-0430
Pat Fisher 747-3011
Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Steve Szanto Creighton Manning 446-0396
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting to
order at 1:37.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the April 24
th meeting minutes.
MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)

A. On-call engineering services contracts, Aaron
Received 11 responses to the RFP; the 3 contracts were awarded to
Creighton Manning, RSG, and Chazen. These are for individual projects
with a 10K cap including 20% minimum local match.
B. Aviation Road and Access Management studies, Aaron
Both of these studies are moving along; a revised existing conditions
report which includes the westward extension out to West Mountain Road
for Aviation Road has been received; the graphics are still missing; once
they are received the document will be posted online.
There will be a Steering Committee meeting for the Access Management
Study Tues., May 29 at 9 am. A final cut of the educational slide show
should be ready; this slide show will be made available to planning and
zoning members. Letters have been sent out to planning and zoning

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boards asking for their consideration in granting training credits for their
board members.

5. TIP
A. 2007-2012 Draft TIP, Aaron (handouts)
At the last meeting we came away with an understanding that we were
carrying a significant amount of over-programming in this area, some of
which was front loaded in the first 3 years of the TIP. This practice was
deemed inacceptable by the Main Office. Changes to the TIP are necessary
that involve moving some obligations out of the 3 SFY and 5 SFY year
periods. The Region sent some draft proposals and Aaron shared them
with the project sponsors. Comments regarding the proposals have been
received.
1. Proposed changes to NYSDOT projects and discussion- Frank Bonafide
Because projects are not always let when scheduled in the TIP there
has been a snowball effect. In the first part of the 5 year program
there are a lot of local projects. The intent is to balance the program
to the actual yearly allocations. Expenditures need to be spread
evenly through the years. Mr. Bonafide went back to his database to
balance the fund sources in 2005-2010 program and then the new five
year period 2007-2012. Hopefully there will be minimal impact to
projects so the first attempt was made to move things back by a few
months but some projects needed to be pushed back more. There is
some flexibility within fund sources but net over-programming is no
longer allowed. Mr. Bonafide referred to the handout material. The big
question remains, “How much can the state afford to reimburse the
counties for their expenditures?” Local projects were reviewed
beginning with Washington County on the handout titled Planned
Obligation Moves to Balance Program. A correction to the NHS project
listing was made, Pin #124814 should be for Rte 197 not 149.

Willy Grimmke identified HBRR projects 175518 (Saunders and
Division) and 175515 (Clinton St.) as potential problems. Both of
these projects are over the CP rail and Mr. Grimmke feels there are
many people who have a vested interest in them. These bridges
represent approx. $3mil. in federal funds. Another project of concern
to Mr. Grimmke is the longevity of County Rt 61 (Buffum’s) over the
Battenkill. This is not in the 3 year TIP because of a suspect
inspection. On Truthville, the County just held a public meeting that
indicated construction would be later this year. Willy would prefer that
Truthville and Buffum’s remain in the program as scheduled.

Bill Lamy reported that the design for both of his bridges (WAR 126)
and (WAR 104) has been completed to bid them together and put in
one temporary bridge to serve as a detour while they are both under
construction. One of the bridges was delayed on the adjusted TIP.
The suggestion was made to move both bridges out or to move WAR
120 out. Harrington Road will be moved out of the 3 year TIP.
Middleton has an 18 month delay.

Exit 18 project is going forward as scheduled which is a major
concession by DOT.

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Discussion took place regarding the safety of some of the bridges. The
result: Buffum’s will be brought back in, conceding the Truthville
delay. Harrington Road was pushed out and this should allow the two
Stony Creek structures to be coordinated as scheduled. Shushan is
being kicked out of 2009 to 2012.

Buffum’s will be reintroduced via committee action as soon as possible.
A project has to be eligible for HBRR funding before a TIP amendment
can take place. (Note: Buffum’s has since been red-flagged due to
poor condition rating – AF).

Aaron commented on 197 over the Hudson being brought into the 3
year TIP by DOT. This is a $6 Mil NHS job. Aaron noted that it was
hoped that this was done for the sake of project coordination because
moving it forward was contrary to the fiscal constraint exercise.

No projects were added or deleted from the TIP so Dave Rettig felt it
was not necessary to have another public comment period.

Warren County Woolen Mill Bridge Amendment Request was necessary
because of the addition of a temporary pedestrian bridge, some
alteration of an abutment wing wall, some realignments, etc. The
current amount listed on the TIP was an estimated amount when the
TIP was updated. The new amount is the actual consultant agreement
amount.

A motion was made to approve the TIP amendment request by Warren
County.

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

DOT also had a TIP amendment request involving switching SDF to
STP conversion. $2.1 mil for paving on Rte 8 in Warren County.

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

A motion was made to approve the changes discussed at today’s
meeting.

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

6. Next meeting/adjourn – A Policy Committee meeting is scheduled for June
13 at 10 am. The next TAC will be July 24 at 10 am.

Mike Valentine made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 3:02.

MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC April 24, 2007
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Brian Boucher Town of Fort Edward 747-5501
Michael Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls 747-4544 747-5597
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
Dan Hajeck Village of Lake George 668-5771
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning 761-6410 761-6411
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Others

Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting to
order at 1:37.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the February 28th meeting minutes.

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Transit Report GGFT- Scott Sopczyk: The Glens Falls road closures are being
dealt with better than anticipated; have three new trolleys going into service;
Rte 4 construction may necessitate the use of the Northway for one of the
legs of trips due to resultant congestion at Exit 20; hiring has gone well; FTA
will be coming for review around the middle of May.
B. Consultant Projects, Aaron
1. Access Management Study, Consultants are completing the educational
slide show; working on traffic build outs for the demonstration corridors
assuming that there are access management improvements in place; next
meeting is rescheduled for May 29; RSG has been great to work with.
2. Aviation Road Corridor Study, there was a meeting on March 26 with the
school to discuss their concepts; they are looking at access modifications from
Aviation Road. WSA is modeling the potential impacts of those modifications.
The contract extension to West Mountain Road was approved.

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3. Traffic Count Program, Our first year counts resubmitted (prior formatting
issues) to us from Lochner Engineering; we have given them a schedule for
the second year counts and are seeing if it will be possible to include the
needed counts for Beach Road (Warren County).
C. Staff Activities, Aaron
• Warren County accident analysis draft has been completed and mailed
to DPW. The results were very different than those for Washington
County.
• Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan is moving along;
Scott Sopczyk and Aaron were invited to speak to Warren County
department heads and told them about the upcoming survey. The
Warren and Washington County administrators distributed the surveys
to their department heads that offer human transportation services
meeting. We have received 15 completed surveys from Warren
County and 8 from Washington County. We will follow up with the
County administrators. Processing of the survey results has begun.
D. Make the Connection Program, Aaron
A draft of the bicycle and pedestrian Make the Connection program was
mailed to committee members. This is modeled very closely to CDTC’c Spot
Improvement Program and was in the 2005-2010 TIP for 2 rounds of STP
funding at $250K a piece. The first round was supposed to be this year.
We need to get a program in place to identify project selection procedure.
Aaron asked for comments. Project candidates were requested to not depend
on actions from other municipalities. This will be forwarded to Region 1 to
determine the mechanism to administer this program.
E. On-call engineering services RFP, Aaron
The RFP went out last week and proposals are due back to us May 7. Not
many incoming calls yet from engineering firms.

Aaron indicated that no comments on the draft TIP have been received which leads
him to believe that the funding assumptions and project costs that we had been
working with were fairly accurate.

Prior to going to the TIP issues Dave Rettig shared some information with the
Committee. All of the Regions handed in their programs. Mr. Rettig felt Region 1
was in pretty good shape, but statewide there are programming issues. When doing
the TIPs we updated the costs and in previous years we were overspent. There were
setasides for armor coating projects, traffic signal improvements but a lot of state
projects had to be pushed out. When doing the TIP at A/GFTC and CDTC no local
projects were pushed but Mr. Rettig now feels that this will have to be done. Two
time frames are being looked at, up to April 2010 and to April 2012. A/GFTC’s TIP is
top heavy, front loaded. The statewide overprogramming amounts to approx. 7-8
billion dollars over a five year program. We are overprogrammed in Federal funds
but underprogrammed in State funds. This gets more confusing when the finance
plan/Governor’s budget is factored in. The Finance Plan is based on $ that DOT
anticipates receiving in Federal dollars. This number is lower that what is authorized
in the Transportation Bill. This is good news because we ended up getting a little
more Federal money. Region 1 is still overprogrammed by about 10%. A decision
has been made to increase the amount of advance construction of Federal dollars
that we use. STP funds will also be used to address a shortfall in SDF. Willy Grimmke
noted that it would appear that at the state level there was a lack of strategic
planning.

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Two TIP amendments were brought to the table by Mr. Rettig that convert SDF
projects to STP but yet will not hurt A/GFTC allocations because advance
construction funding will be used. Mr. Rettig acknowledged that this is an awkward
process of deferring locally administered projects while using newly available federal
money for state jobs.

Aaron asked if we would have a better idea of our standing before the final TIP has
to be approved. Mr. Rettig replied that that is largely dependent upon on how the
Main Office reacts to Region 1’s strategy. Short-term, the Policy Committee meeting
on May 9 will need to be postponed in favor of another TAC meeting.

The TIP request from DOT would shift funding for 2 projects (Rt. 22: Rt. 40 to Rt. 4
resurfacing, and Rt. 9: Glens Falls City Line to Round Pound Road) from SDF to
STP Flex.

A motion was made to approve the funding source change

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Wayne LaMothe MOTION CARRIED

5. TIP
A. 2007-2012 TIP Development, Aaron
1. Draft document comments – adjustments will be made resulting
from the information shared at this meeting.
Administratively an adjustment was made to WAR 127 to add $40K in
construction costs.
2. Self-Certification/SAFETEA compliance, Aaron
Draft self-certification was faxed to committee members. This is a
required annual document to show that we are meeting federal
planning requirements.

A motion was made to refer the Self Certification Draft to the Policy Committee for
approval

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Wayne LaMothe MOTION CARRIED

The Draft SAFETEA Compliance Plan was distributed at the meeting. FHWA had
asked the MPOs to put together a strategy to address the various requirements in
SAFETEA. Aaron took the final rule section-by-section and addressed the areas that
we were either in compliance with or listed actions necessary to become compliant.
Aaron reviewed the 10 steps to SAFETEA Compliance outlined on page 8 of the draft
document. There was a brief discussion regarding the date the LRP needs to be
submitted.

B. TIP amendments (already covered)
C. Project Updates
1. Warren County, Lisa Penistan
• Grist Mill and Tannery Bridge-Draft design report went to DOT
and APA for approval. Comments were received and sent to the
consultant. Ready to submit final design report
• Woolen Mill Bridge (Milton St.)-Preparing for bid. ROW is being
worked on.
• Corinth Road-ROW for the county is taking place. Utility
easements are still are questionable. Need to get a firm decision
who will be paying for them. Everything else is ready to go.

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Bill Lamy added that there are still problems between the Town
and the utility companies. The utilities wish to wait until the
lawsuit is settled before going ahead with the work.
• Beach Road is in the scoping phase. NYSDEC has agreed to
participate in the project.
• Middleton Bridge and Harrington Rd. Bridge are in the scoping
phase.
2. Washington County, Willy Grimmke
• Covered bridges are proceeding with construction and seem to
be ahead of schedule. Should be complete late June or July.
• Whitehall Railroad Bridges-Utility coordination meeting is
Thursday.
• County Route 21-winter shutdown is over and work is
progressing
• County Route 12-draft design report has been sent to DOT for
comment
• County Route 42-bid opening is in two weeks
3. Town of Moreau – no report
4. Glens Falls- Aaron, roundabout is on schedule, we need to identify
TAC representation from the city
5. Queensbury – no report
6. NYSDOT-Dave Rettig
• Before July 4
th work between Exit 26-28 should be completed
• Rte 4 in Fort Edward-working on utilities, water and sewer work
will progress
• Hudson Falls-work on the retaining wall on 254 has begun
• Clay Hill Road work has begun
• Rte 372, Rt. 29, 74A – the costs are getting out of control and
the project may need to be scaled back. Mary Ricard is the new
project manager.

7. Next meeting/adjourn – The next meeting is scheduled for
Thursday, May 24
th at 1:30 pm in the 2nd floor classroom at
Washington County Municipal Center. The meeting adjourned at 3:02.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC February 28, 2007
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Blanche Alter Town of Queensbury 761-8221 745-4437
Michael Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls 747-4544 747-5597
Mark Galough Washington Cty.Planning 746-2290
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
Tom Kearney FHWA-NY 431-4125 431-4121
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning 761-6410 761-6411
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Walter Young LCLGRPB 668-5773 668-5774
Others

Lee Ecker Clough Harbour & Assoc 453-3984
Len Fosbrook EDC Warren County 761-6007 761-9053
Larry Mulvaney NYSDOT 388-0432
Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke and called the meeting to
order at 10:07 AM with ten voting members present.

2. Visitor Issues – Lee Ecker of Clough Harbour & Associates was in attendance,
and will do a presentation on the Fort Edward Industrial Access study at this
group’s request.
3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the January 10th meeting minutes.

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinnney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

4. Fort Edward Industrial Access study – Lee Ecker of Clough Harbour &
Associates
A request at the January 10 meeting for a presentation detailing the study for
Fort Edward’s Industrial Park, was given by Lee Ecker of CHA. The presentation
detailed the background of the study, undertaken by the Town of Fort Edward, to
find solutions and evaluate alternatives for access to the Industrial Park.
Lee answered questions about current occupancy, ownership, future development
and the dewatering facility.

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5. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
Due to time constraints, discussion of ongoing UPWP tasks was limited.
A. Transit Report GGFT- Scott Sopczyk: GGFT has submitted its five year capital
program for inclusion in the upcoming TIP. 5310 procedure was discussed.
Staggered bus procurement was suggested to smooth out the budget, but
Scott noted that buying vehicles in large groups was advantageous for
pricing.
B. Consultant Projects, Aaron
2. Aviation Road Corridor Study
A possible expansion of scope of this project to include Aviation Road
westward to West Mountain Road was raised. The WMR intersection has an
elevated accident occurrence. The committee agreed that it is worth
investigation given the reasonable fee offered by WSA.
C. Staff Activities, Aaron
• Problems between Exit 20 and 149 persist and officials in Warren
County believe that the area warrants further consideration. We can
add this to our draft UPWP but another planning study may need to be
removed as a result of limited staff resources. The committee directed
staff to recommend a revision to the draft TIP to the Policy Committee.
• Scott and Aaron had a meeting with Washington County at its request
to discuss analysis of human services transportation. A similar meeting
with Warren County’s department heads has been scheduled for March
21
st.
D. UPWP
The draft has been sent to committee members and delivered to public offices
for a 30 day public comment period. It is also available on our website.

6. TIP
A. Project Updates
Due to time constraints there were no reported project updates.
B. 2007-2012 TIP Development
1. Preliminary list of Projects
A draft of the 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program’s
preliminary listing of projects was distributed. Project dates and accuracy
were reviewed. Discussions included:
Saratoga County projects

• The bridge between Hadley and Luzerne WAR 144 is no longer on
the TIP because it is not HBRR-eligible.
Warren County

• Project 175382 and 175557, Routes 9 and 254 congestion
improvements and Quaker Road signal coordination saw a
significant cost increase, which limits the amount of funds to be
carried forward. Additionally, the signal coordination portion seems
incomplete. NYSDOT, Warren County, and the Town of Queensbury
are working to resolve the situation.
• Exit 18/Corinth Road (WAR 02 and 03) is still Warren County’s
main priority. Cost increases are included in the obligated column
of the draft. The eligibility of Senator Betty Little’s earmark was
raised as the funds are SDF and potentially not applicable to off-
system projects. It is Aaron’s understanding Bob Hansen had
suggested applying these funds towards the local match of the
NHS-eligible segment of the corridor. Dave Rettig concurred that
this was likely an eligible application.

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• Beach Road reconstruction (Project 175728) currently comprises
the county owned portions of the roadway on either side of the
state park. Warren County is currently in discussion with DEC
about combining the section of the highway (within the state park)
with the outer portions. More information on STP funds
(programmed vs. allocated) is needed to determine if there is room
in the TIP for an expanded Beach Road project. Bill Lamy stated
that he believed that Beach Road would be considered to be a
higher priority within Warren County than the second section of
Corinth Road west of Big Bay Room.
Washington County

• The resurfacing on Route 22 and the armor coating on Route 196
should be listed as Post-TIP, not “deleted.”

Bridge Projects
• CR 61 (Buffum’s) is currently not HBRR-eligible despite its poor
condition. Willy noted that Buffum’s is a higher priority than
Shushan and would like to reverse the dates for those projects. As
non-eligible projects cannot be programmed in the first three
years, the County will wait until a new inspection report is available
before requesting a TIP amendment.
• Additionally, CR 10 over the Poultney in Whitehall is currently not
HBRR-eligible, but Washington County is working with Vermont to
align inspection scheduling as maintenance and rehabilitation for
this structure is a shared cost.

A motion was made to approve the reviewed projects as the contents of the
draft TIP for Policy Committee consideration pending additional review from
NYSDOT and A/GFTC staff.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

7. Next meeting/adjourn – The next meeting is scheduled for
Tuesday, April 24
th at 1:30 pm in the 2nd floor classroom at
Washington County Municipal Center. Wayne LaMothe made a motion to
adjourn the meeting at 12:25 pm.