A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, December 10, 2010  

Policy Committee Meeting Minutes

Friday, December 10, 2010

Members:

Ed Bartholomew, City of Glens Falls (rep. Jack Diamond)
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Rob Cherry, NYSDOT Region 1 (rep. Mary Ivey)
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Willard Peck)
Steve Sweeney, NYSCC (rep. William Rinaldi)

Others:

Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti, NYSDOT Region 1
Kevin Hajos, Warren County DPW
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
John Wheatley, EDC Warren County

A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck, Transportation Planner

1. Welcome and Introductions
In the absence of the Chair and Vice-Chair, Aaron called the meeting to order at
1:35 PM.

2. Visitor Issues
None

3. Administrative Items
A. TAC Co-chairman Election Results – Aaron reported that the TAC elected
Mike Valentine as the committee co-chair.
B. Operations Plan / Host Agency Agreement
The current host agency agreement with the Lake Champlain – Lake
George Regional Planning Board will expire in April 2012 and the
agreement takes about a year to renew. Aaron reported that the LCLGRPB
has been challenged to cover our finances due to late reimbursements from
NYSDOT. The LCLGRPB recently obtained a line of credit to help with these
cash flow issues and are agreeable to continuing to host A/GFTC. Wayne
LaMothe asked if there were other options. Warren County and the City of
Glens Falls were listed as possible alternatives.
C. In-kind Reporting
Aaron reported that A/GFTC will be contacting TAC and Policy Committee
members to request information that will allow staff to better document
committee member in-kind time.
4. Transit
A. GGFT Update
Scott Sopczyk reported GGFT capital projects have included adding two
new trolley buses to replace to old ones, executing a bid award for one new
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hybrid bus, completing the relocation of the Ridge Street transfer station
and the update of computer and telephone systems. A radio system
replacement and new in ground vehicle lift are planned for early 2011.

GGFT has seen 2010 ridership increase by approximately 2%. Work is
continuing on the implementation of the Transit Development Plan
recommendations. A new shared website with A/GFTC has been developed.
Scott also noted data (handout) that demonstrated, that despite the
comparatively small scale of its operations, GGFT achieved very low
operating costs per mile and operating costs per passenger

Discussion ensued regarding an estimate of the percentage of ridership
that originated from tourist trips. Scott estimated that approximately 1/3
of all trolley trips were taken by tourists. Bolton has also seen an increase
in ridership and GGFT will be looking into increasing the frequency of trips
to Bolton.

B. FTA 5310 Awards
Aaron reported that two out of the four applications from the A/GFTC area
were awarded FTA 5310 (services for elderly and disabled passengers)
funds – Community, Work & Independence (CWI) and Battenkill
Community Services. CWI’s application was ranked #1 statewide by
NYSDOT.

5. Annual Work Program
A. Review of Staff and Consultant Activities
1) Local Transportation Planning and Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor
Aaron reported that the Gateway Corridor study is essentially
final and anticipates that the Town of Lake George will
consider the document for adoption at its 12/13 meeting.
b. Glens Falls Residential Traffic Calming
Aaron reported RSG was hired as the consultant for this
project. A neighborhood walk through was conducted. The
methodology for the project will be refined over the winter
and data from demonstrations will be collected in the spring.
This will include assessing local residents’ perception of
vehicle speed. The primary concern of residents seems to be
speed of vehicles and safety for pedestrians.
2) Travel Demand Modeling Contract
Aaron reported that Warner Transportation Consulting has created a
working model continues to refine calibration. We should have a
complete model within another month and a half.
3) GIS Services Contract
Sarah reported that Fountains Spatial has completed a Traffic Count
viewer, a TIP Project viewer (both on the A/GFTC website) and a
Transit Ridership application (which will assist GGFT with calculating
their passengers per mile as required by FTA). The Pavement
Scoring application will completed very soon. The last of the issues
were being worked out this morning.

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4) Village of Greenwich Bicycle and Pedestrian Assessment
Sarah reported that, as part of A/GFTC’s UPWP and in conjunction
with the Washington County Healthy Communities Coalition, a
bike/ped assessment was completed for the Village of Greenwich
this past fall. Each Village street was assessed for bicycle and
pedestrian accessibility and assigned a score and then ranked. A
draft assessment was given to the Village for their comments and
then A/GFTC will open it up to NYSDOT comments.
5) iPoolNorth Update
Sarah reported that Ecology and Environment agreed to lower the
annual maintenance fee from $10,000 to $7,900 for iPoolNorth
based on the smaller user base. iPoolNorth currently has 94 users.
We will upgrade to new platform (GreenRide Connect) when CDTC
(ipool2 is the Capital District’s ridesharing site) does. A/GFTC is
considering expanding iPoolNorth to include commuters in Essex
County. Mary Anne Mariotti asked to be notified as to what A/GFTC
decides to do.
B. Upcoming Activities
1) WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification
Aaron reported that the WWIDA asked A/GFTC for assistance with
completing an informal traffic impact analysis in order to obtain
shovel ready certification. An estimate to complete such an analysis
by a consultant would be $2,500. The TAC felt the WWIDA should
use their own funds for such an analysis. WWIDA presented this at
their last meeting and have decided not to hire a consultant, but will
request A/GFTC staff assistance to complete this. This is contingent
upon A/GFTC upgrading its HCS software and travel demand model,
which is currently being done. A/GFTC staff will complete as much
of the analysis as they feel they are capable of doing.
2) Bicycle Map Update / Reprint
Aaron reported that it is time to reprint and update the existing bike
map. There is one trail segment that is currently shown as stone
dust and it has since been paved. The Warren County Safe and
Quality Bicycling Organization has expressed an interest in having
the map show additional cycling routes, Aaron has indicated to both
Queensbury and Glens Falls that they will need municipal
designations of routes in order for them to be included on the map.
Wayne LaMothe noted that there is an interest to expand the
Warren County bikeway through Lake George and into the towns of
Warrensburg and Chestertown and would like to explore the process
for local municipalities to designate portions of State highways.
3) HUD Community Challenge Grant
Ed Bartholomew reported that the City of Glens Falls was awarded a
planning grant for $200,000. This will assist with planning for a
parking structure in downtown Glens Falls with the possibility for a
GGFT stop/access and housing for community elements such as the
Glens Falls Farmer’s Market and other festivities. A/GFTC has
agreed to provide staff time for in-kind services.
C. 2011-2012 Work Program
1) Candidates for inclusion
Aaron reported that GGFT has approached A/GFTC about adding
some upgraded mapping to the transit website. Aaron also
reported that the Town of Queensbury has mentioned potentially

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doing a feasibility study for a connector road between Quaker
Road and Queensbury Avenue (south of the airport).Scott Sopczyk
added that A/GFTC could include a study to assess the park and
ride adequacy at each exit along I-87 and tie in with CDTA’s
current park and ride study (which only goes to Exit 20).
2) Solicitation
Aaron asked if the committee would like A/GFTC to go ahead with
a formal solicitation. The committee responded that yes a formal
solicitation should be conducted.
6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County
Kevin Hajos reported that Tannery Road bridge has been completed.
The Milton Street bridge has wrapped up construction for this year and
will finish next year. Corinth Road will have a skeleton crew working on
utilities over the winter and then full road reconstruction will begin in
the spring. Beach Road is still in the design phase. Harrington Road
bridge will go out to bid in 2011. The RFP just went out for Hicks Road
and Crane Mountain Road. Warren County will also be submitting a few
applications for the Make the Connection program.
2) Washington County – no report
3) Saratoga County
Mike Valentine reported that the Route 9 project at Exit 17N now has
striping in, but the light is not operational yet. Mary Anne Mariotti
reported that the light should be working by the end of the month.
Aaron noted that NYSDOT will be in contact with the Village of South
Glens Falls and the Town of Moreau regarding their safety project
shortly.
4) NYSDOT
Mary Anne reported that the Route 9 bridge over the Hudson River in
Hadley/Luzerne will be completed in 2012. The resurfacing of Route 9
and drainage on West Brook Road in Lake George is starting now. The
resurfacing of I-87 is complete to Exit 20. The two bridges on I-87 over
the Schroon River will resume March 1
st, 2011. Route 372 in the Town
of Easton will also resume March 1st, 2011. Trucks were not being
rerouted and DOT will work with online programs like mapquest and
google maps to fix this.
Aaron reported that he met with the Village of Hudson Falls and DOT
last week to confirm the Route 4 project design limits. The project will
be designed up to the Feeder Canal bridge.
Wayne LaMothe reported that Warren County is working with the Town
of Corinth to identify ways to increase the railroad services between the
two counties. Wayne also noted maps that the NYS Rail Plan needs to
be corrected to show that Warren County’s rail line is active. Wayne
would like to start an amendment process to clarify this with DOT.
B. Amendments and Modifications
1) City of Glens Falls request to reprioritize projects
Aaron reported that the City of Glens Falls has asked to reprioritize
their projects in the TIP. They would like to replace their number
one priority (Hudson Ave) with a new project (Broad Street) and
replace their number two priority (Dix Ave) with Hudson Avenue.
The TAC previously approved this amendment pending resolution of
questions posed by DOT, which is ongoing.

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C. Make the Connection Solicitation
Aaron reported that A/GFTC is soliciting for projects under the Make the
Connection program. In past years A/GFTC has been able to fund all
project applicants. This year we are anticipating more requests than we
can fund. We will be asking committee members to serve on a
subcommittee to rank and select project awards after the proposals are
due on December 15
th. Wayne LaMothe indicated he’d be available to serve
on that committee.

7. Other Items
None reported at this time

8. Next meeting and adjourn
Aaron reported that the TAC will meet in mid-January and mid February to approve
the draft 2011-2012 UPWP. The Policy Committee can then expect to meet again in
early March to adopt the final UPWP.

The meeting was adjourned at 3:00 PM

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, October 19, 2010  

MEETING MINUTES OF THE A/GFTC TAC
October 19, 2010
10:00 – 11:30
Holden Room, Crandall Public Library
251 Glen Street, Glens Falls

Attendees Agency

Members
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury Community Development
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Tori Riley Washington County LDC
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT Region 1
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Steve Sweeney NYS Canal Corporation
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning Department
Richard Wilson Washington County DPW
Walter Young LC-LG RPB

Staff
Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC

1. Welcome and Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at
10:05 AM.

2. Visitor Issues – none

3. Administrative Items

A. Co-chairman election – Aaron reported that the voting is currently in
progress. If a tie occurs the committee will deal with it at that time.
B. Items from August meeting – In regards to the Chocolate Moose RV
Campground issue that was brought up at the last TAC meeting, Aaron
reported that A/GFTC sent a letter to the Town of Fort Ann Planning Board
to let them know what staff services were available to them when
considering matters of regional transportation impact. A/GFTC also sent
along the resolution from the last meeting to DOT asking that they
consider requesting further analysis of the proposed campground. DOT did
apply additional consideration to the issue. They have indicated that in
granting the Town’s requested speed limit reduction, in conjunction with
the local enforcement efforts that were committed as part of the request as
well as the Campground’s intent to prohibit pedestrian trips out of the
facility, they are willing to issue thie required highway work permit pedning
site approval from the Adirondack Park Ageny. DOT also reaffirmed that a
stop light at Tripoli/Hadlock/149 intersection is still not warranted. Stu
Baker reported that the APA has approved the project.

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C. iPoolNorth contract – Sarah reported that A/GFTC has renewed a 3 year
contract with Ecology and Environment for $7,900 a year with a free
upgrade in website platform when CDTC upgrades in conjunction. This was
negotiated down from the $10,000 a year fee that was originally proposed.
D. Operations Plan / Host Agency agreement – Aaron reported that A/GFTC
will be drafting an operations plan. Stu Baker, Wayne LaMothe
(previously), Mike Valentine and Scott Sopczyk agreed to review the plan.
Part of the operations plan includes A/GFTC’s host agreement that will
expire in April 2012. Walter Young reported that the LCLGRPB is fine with
continuing to host A/GFTC aside from the occasional late reimbursements
from DOT. The LCLGRPB is applying for a line of credit from Glens Falls
National Bank to cover A/GFTC expense in the event of lapsed
reimbursements. The loan is still in the process of being approved.

4. Transit
A. GGFT Update – Scott Sopczyk reported that GGFT is still in the process of
completing its ARRA projects. The shelter at Ridge St. is done and much
improved over the old one. A bus is on order for March. They are also
replacing a lift in the garage but have incurred delay due to environmental
conditions. They will also be replacing FAME vehicles in 2011. Ridership is
up 3% for 2010. The trolley season is over and went well. More traffic back
up at 149/9 intersection is anticipated next summer. Scott asked about
consideration for directional signing that would encourage north- and
southbound freight traffic to use Exit 21 instead of Exit 20 to decrease
congestion. Aaron will speak with NYSDOT R1 regarding the warrants for
such signing.

5. UPWP
A. Consultant / Staff Activities
1) Local Traffic Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor – Aaron reported that the
draft plan includes strategies to address pedestrian issues,
stormwater runoff, and traffic calming. The Town of Lake
George wanted to know if DOT could build some of these
recommendations into their planned Route 9 pavement
reconstruction. Mary Anne Mariotti reported that the project
was already let and therefore they could not alter the design
at this point. Mary Anne will also make sure that a DOT
response to the draft Corridor plan has been sent to the
consultant.
b. Glens Falls residential traffic calming – Aaron reported that
A/GFTC received 2 proposals and selected the one from RSG.
2) Travel Demand Modeling contract – Aaron reported that the
consultant is still working on calibrating the model and anticipates
meeting with him in a couple weeks. A/GFTC has purchased the
TransCAD model software.
3) GIS Services contract – Sarah reported that Fountains Spatial has
completed a traffic count viewer that lists data on traffic counts on
the non-State system in the A/GFTC area. It can be found along
with the TIP project viewer on the A/GFTC website under the
Projects tab. A pavement application is also currently being created
to help A/GFTC and county DPWs score pavement. DOT provided
A/GFTC and DPW staff with a pavement score training session,

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which was very helpful and informative. Aaron reported that the
transit ridership application, also created by Fountains Spatial, will
be used this following Spring for GGFT’s triennial passenger mile
data collection requirements.
4) Village of Greenwich bicycle and pedestrian assessment – Sarah
reported that A/GFTC is currently halfway done with collecting data
for the assessment. Aaron and Sarah will go out again on October
22
nd to collect the rest of the data and will compile and create a
prioritized list of streets based on bicycle and pedestrian
accessibility for the Village. The Village will use this list to help
determine where improvements are needed and where to best
spend funds.
5) Bicycle map update – Sarah reported that A/GFTC will be updating
their bicycle map. A survey of other MPO bicycle maps was done to
see how many currently rate their roads based on bikeability. About
half do. Various members of the TAC noted that rating the roads
requires a lot of data and can be controversial. The ratings would
have to be defined. Jeff Tennyson noted that A/GFTC would have to
be cautious about avid bicycle groups pushing for funds to improve
roads based on the ratings given. It was also noted that preserving
the distinction between a map and a guide is important. Aaron has
told bicycle advocacy groups before that if they get a municipality to
designate a road as a bicycle route then it would be put on the map
as such.
6) WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification – Aaron reported that the
WWIDA has requested A/GFTC’s help with obtaining shovel ready
certification by satisfying the need for a traffic evaluation. A/GFTC’s
software for this kind of evaluation is currently out of date and
would cost $1,250 to purchase/update. CME gave a cost estimate of
$2,500 for a traffic evaluation. Mary Anne reported that Rob Cherry
did review CME’s scope and besides a few issues it would be
adequate. Mike Valentine felt it was reasonable to ask the WWIDA
to pay for the cost of CME to conduct the traffic evaluation in full.
Tori Riley agreed. Aaron will inform the IDA of the TAC’s decision.

6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County – Jeff Tennyson reported that Tannery Bridge in
Stony Creek will be open soon. Construction has started on the Milton
St. Bridge in Warrensburg. The box beams are being set for the Alder
Brook Bridge in Chestertown. Corinth Rd. is still in the utility phase. A
thin overlay will be put down for traffic over the winter. Responsding to
an inquiry from Scott Sopczyk, Jeff will check to see if the Media Drive
intersection will be done before winter. Harrington Road just received
federal authorization. A winter bid and spring construction start are
anticipated. A mid- to late summer bid for a fall construction schedule
is anticipated for Beach Rd in order to avoid construction during peak
summer traffic. A public meeting will be held for this project on October
28
th at 6:30 PM at the Town of Lake George town hall. Jeff also
reported that the County’s current salvage policy (working salvage for
steel, cut stone etc into bids) has allowed them to save costs on
temporary bridges, culverts, bank stabilization other projects where
they can reuse the salvaged materials. He encouraged others to look
into similar policies.

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2) Washington County – Dick Wilson reported that he is still trying to
get up to speed on all the projects. He is aware that the railroad bridge
project in Whitehall is on a tight schedule, but plans to be done on
time. They have one more bridge deck to pour. The County is currently
trying to finish up projects. Aaron reported that Dewey’s Bridge over
the Champlain Canal is county owned and action does need to be taken
on it or the federal aid eligibility will expire. The County is not
interested in replacing it with another truss bridge. Aaron has asked
FHWA if the County can use federal funds to demolish it if it is not to be
replaced. Aaron also reported that he is working with DOT to address
the shortfall of funds for County Route 68 over Little White Creek due
to a technical issue with the STIP.
3) Saratoga County – Mike Valentine asked about the status of the
Route 9 project at Exit 17 and of the Route 9N bridge replacement over
the Hudson River in Hadley/Luzerne. Mary Anne Mariotti reported that
the Route 9 project was let in May 2010 and that the Route 9N bridge
replacement will be let January 2011. She will check on the status and
timing for both.
4) NYSDOT – Mary Anne Mariotti reported that Bob Hansen is officially
retired. Mary Anne’s group has lost 4 people to early retirement and the
entire DOT Region has lost 70 people. The two I-87 bridges will be done
next year. The Route 372 bridge in Greenwich had a delay, but should
be done next year as well. There are still problems being reported with
trucks hitting the railroad bridge over the project. The I-87 resurfacing
is largely complete to Exit 20 and the rustic rail has been replaced up to
Exit 23. There is a settlement issue with vertical curve on Route 149 in
Warren County that will be corrected next Spring.

B. Amendments and Modifications
1) City of Glens Falls request to reprioritize projects (handout) – Aaron
reported that the City of Glens Falls has requested a TIP
amendment that would effectively add a project for Broad Street as
their top priority, switch Hudson Avenue to their second priority and
take Dix Avenue off of the TIP. Aaron reported that a public
comment period and subsequent Policy Committee approval would
be required. Questions arose about cost estimates, project
description and fund sources. Aaron noted that the fund source and
cost estimates would have to be the same in order to preserve fiscal
constraint. A motion was made to forward this TIP amendment
request on to the Policy Committee (and open it for public
comment) pending the City adequately answers the questions
raised by the TAC regarding funding estimates.

MOTION BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

C. Make the Connection solicitation – Aaron reported that A/GFTC will send
out a solicitation for MTC projects soon. It is a $200,000 annual program
that is made available to the A/GFTC region. Projects must be municipally
sponsored. Jeff Tennyson asked if the construction of shoulders could be
included. Aaron would look into it and see if that was a fitting project. Jeff
also offered to share other ideas regarding improvement opportunities.
A/GFTC staff will follow up with Jeff prior to the new solicitation.

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7. Other Items – Mike Valentine asked about the status of Safe Routes to School.
Aaron noted that he was just on a conference call with DOT and the rest of the
MPOs in regards to the next SRTS and Transportation Enhancement Program
solicitations. There is currently one year of accrued funding for both programs.
SRTS would have only about $9 million available statewide and TEP would have
approximately $27 million available statewide.

8. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – Aaron reported that the next meeting will
be held sometime in January 2011. A Policy Committee meeting will be planned for
December. The meeting adjourned at 11:45 AM.

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, August 18, 2010

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MEETING MINUTES OF THE A/GFTC TAC
August 18, 2010
Holden Room, Crandall Public Library
251 Glen Street, Glens Falls

Attendees Agency

Members
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls DPW
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury Community Development
Ed Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Bob Hansen NYSDOT-Region 1
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning Department
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning Department

Others
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
David King Lake George RV Park
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1

Staff
Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC

1. Welcome / Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:05 PM.

2. Visitor Issues

A. Dave King of the Lake George RV Park – wants to be involved in the discussion of and
offer his knowledge on the proposed Chocolate Moose RV Park on Route 149 in the
Town of Fort Ann. Mr. King stated that from his experience the proposed entrance
design is inadequate for the standing and storing of inflow traffic during peak times. A
600 ft, 2-lane entry is proposed and he would expect traffic to back up onto Route
149 as well as lack of access for emergency vehicles during peak days and hours. This
congestion is also made dangerous with the existing intersection of Tripoli Rd, the
curve and limited sight distance and the set speed of the Route 149.

Mr. King pointed out that due to the existing land use across from the proposed RV
park (mini-golf and ice cream parlor) that people will still attempt to cross the road
regardless of the pedestrian rules the RV park puts in place. This has potential for
pedestrian accidents.

The Chocolate Moose is proposed as a seasonal RV park as opposed to one that caters
towards shorter-term visits, but elements of their proposed development do not
appear to be consistent with that model.

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The traffic impacts and resulting congestion during peak times will decrease the
ability of emergency services to reach their destinations on an already congested
corridor.Mr. King suggested that creating a longer interior access road to the back of
the property would better handle the stacking of inflow traffic. The longer road as well
as appropriate screen along Route 149 would also discourage people from attempting
to cross Route 149 to access other attractions.

Discussion among the TAC included what action is Mr. King asking the TAC to take,
that the TAC was asked by the Town of Fort Ann at the last meeting to support
requesting DOT to do a speed/safety study for the 149 corridor, if there is anything
that can be done now since the Town Planning Board has already granted site
approval, if A/GFTC’s Access Management Guide could be used in this situation and if
a traffic impact study is needed. Mike Valentine sought assurance that these concerns
were not being raised by Mr. King on account of him owning a potentially competing
operation. Mr. King stated that these issues were not raised out of any sense of
economic self-interest.

A motion was made to encourage
the Department to require that a traffic study that
better quantified both the site-specific and corridor-wide traffic impacts of the
proposed development be conducted prior to the issuance of the driveway permit, and
that that responsibility be placed on the applicant.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Ed Bartholomew MOTION CARRIED
Bob Hansen abstained

A motion was made to send a letter to the Town of Fort Ann Planning Board and offer
assistance with future site plan reviews of regional impact and c.c. the Washington
County Planning Board Chairman.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

3. Administrative Items

A. TAC structure / meeting administration – Aaron – We are currently without a TAC
chair and TAC co-chair due to Willy Grimmke’s departure and Bill Lamy’s retirement.
Past committee chairs have felt it was harder to be involved in TAC discussions while
also running the meeting, but there is some value to filling the position as it is
periodically necessary to process ongoing MPO activities.

A motion was made to recommend to the Policy Committee that Aaron would chair
the TAC for the purpose of running meetings, while a TAC member would be
appointed Co-Chair that could handle occasional administrative items or run meetings
in Aaron’s absence.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

B. Sustainable Communities Grant Application Resolution – Aaron – the City of Glens
Falls is applying for a regional grant and the MPO is a required participant. The Policy
Committee approved and signed a resolution for A/GFTC’s participation and the
contribution of in kind services as needed to the project. Mr. Bartholomew stated that
most municipalities are on board and a few more will be approached for resolutions
this week. They are looking at a more regional approach (like the A/GFTC structure)
to planning and economic development. GGFT and SUNY Adirondack are also both on
board. Aaron noted the City of Glens Falls is also applying for a HUD Community
Challenge grant for that A/GFTC has also sent a letter of support.

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4. UPWP
A. Consultant / Staff Activities
1) GIS Services – Sarah – Fountain Spatial is working out the last few bugs with the
Traffic Count Viewer and we hope to make it available on our website soon. They
are also working on the pavement scoring application, which we hope to start
using this fall. Mr. Tennyson noted that Warren County would like to be involved
in the data collection and work together with A/GFTC to cover the entire County
system. Ms. Mariotti wanted to make sure we will be standardizing the data and
perhaps receiving training. Mr. Tennyson also noted pavement scoring training
with PDHs was available.

2) iPoolNorth contract – Sarah – we are having issues with the lack of scalability of
pricing and no longer being able to communicate with ipool2 due to an upgrade on
their part. We have asked Ecology & Environment to look into scaling the
maintenance fee we pay for iPoolNorth to reflect the fewer users we have
compared to ipool2 in the Capital District. We will wait to hear from Ecology &
Environment before pursuing other options.

3) Road Safety Assessment training – Sarah – the 2-day workshop was offered by
FHWA and was well received by the participants. Mr. Baker noted the outdoor case
study was very helpful. Aaron would like to require Road Safety Assessments for
each TIP highway project. Mr. Tennyson agreed as long as it was offered to non-
TIP projects as well. Aaron noted that it was already in our UPWP to offer RSAs to
non-TIP projects at the request of the project owner. Mr. Hansen noted that
identifying needed safety improvements could help projects get partially funded
by safety funds.

A motion was made to require Road Safety Assessments for each TIP project.

MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

4) Travel Demand Modeling – Aaron – Aaron, Marc Warner of Warner Transportation
Consulting Services, Chris O’Neill of CDTC and Nathan Erlbaum of DOT met
recently to discuss the model for A/GFTC and issues that Marc Warner is
encountering with model calibration. We hope to receive a final model by the end
of this year.

5) Local Traffic Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor – Aaron – Chazen Companies is working with
the Town of Lake George to plan improvements to the entrance/gateway
corridor from Exit 21 north into the Village along Route 9. A public meeting has
been held and a second public meeting is scheduled to coincide with the Town
Board meeting in September. The result will be a conceptual map, list of
recommendations and a firm list of funding sources.

b. Residential Traffic Calming Demonstration Project – Aaron – The City of Glens
Falls is requesting assistance with a traffic calming demonstration project on a
residential street. Lincoln Avenue residents approached the City’s Board of
Public Safety with concerns about vehicle speed and children walking to the
nearby schools. Aaron disclosed that he lives on Lincoln Avenue but was not
involved in his neighbors’ efforts to raise the issue. The residential traffic
calming demonstration project was offered to the City of Glens Falls when
Scott Sopczyk was A/GFTC Director but the City never acted on the original
offer. The $20,000 study budget could potentially allow for analyses of
multiple locations.

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A motion was made to accept the City of Glens Falls request to conduct a
residential traffic calming demonstration project and to share the study results
with other municipalities.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine
MOTION CARRIED

c. Greenwich Bicycle/Pedestrian Assessment – Sarah – As part of our UPWP and
part of the Healthy Communities Coalition of Washington County we are
providing a bicycle/pedestrian assessment to the Village of Greenwich. Mr.
Tennyson noted that the Town of Queensbury had approached him about
bicycle improvements and stated that if there were bicycle improvement funds
available the County could potentially make use of them. Aaron noted that we
do have the Make the Connection program specifically for filling in gaps in the
bicycle and pedestrian network. There is also potential for A/GFTC to offer staff
resources to help municipalities complete ADA transition plans.

B. Transit
1) GGFT Update – none provided

5. TIP
A. 2007-2012 TIP
1) Project Updates
a. Warren County – Kevin Hajos – Corinth Road, Alder Brook Bridge, Tannery
Street Bridge and Milton Street Bridge are all on schedule and under
construction. Mr. Tennyson asked about the Beach Road right of way
acquisition. Aaron noted it was held up by miscommunication on the E-STIP.
He will check with DOT on the STIP approval. Aaron relayed GGFT’s concern
about maintaining trolley service during the construction of Beach Road. Mr.
Tennyson noted there would be an 8:30 AM meeting on August 19
th with
primary stakeholders.

b. Washington County – Scott Tracy – Clinton Street and Division/Saunders
Street Bridges in Whitehall are slated to be completed by late 2010. A public
meeting for CR 61 over the Batten Kill (Buffum’s or Tackle Box Bridge) will be
held soon and the final design will be done soon after that.

c. Saratoga County – Mike Valentine – None, but eagerly anticipating the Spier
Falls intersection improvements.

d. NYSDOT – Mary Anne Mariotti – Construction is underway the aforementioned
Route 9 / Spier Falls Road intersection project. Exits 18 – 24 on I-87 are also
under construction with 1R resurfacing and replacement of rustic rail. Route 4
in Hudson Falls has a letting date of November 2011. The design is underway,
but the northern project limit has not been defined yet due to potential
drainage issues in the design process. Construction is anticipated for 2012.

Mr. Hansen noted that the constraints on the DOT budget are forcing state and
local system letting targets to be combined. DOT will have to decide the
appropriate splits. Scheduling will be more of an issue now. FHWA reviews will
lead to changes in construction management plans. Some discussion ensued
on eSTIP communication protocol. Warren and Washington County are late in
submitting ARRA 1R bills. The Regions have been directed to identify any
potential savings in ARRA projects.

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2) Amendments and Modifications – None

B. 2010-2015 TIP – None

6. Other Items – None

7. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – Aaron – the next meeting will be scheduled for
mid October.

A motion to adjourn at 3:10 PM was made.

MOVED BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Mike Fiorillo MOTION CARRIED

 

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, June 8, 2010 

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Tuesday, June 8, 2010

Attendance:

Members
:
Ed Bartholomew, City of Glens Falls (rep. Jack Diamond)
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Mary Ivey, NYSDOT Region 1
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW (rep. Fred Monroe)
Frank McCoy, Town of Lake George
Daniel Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Willard Peck)

Others
:
Stu Baker, Town of Queensbury
Michael Fiorillo, Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti, NYSDOT-Region 1
Joe Sullivan, City of Glens Falls DPW

A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck, Transportation Planner

I. Welcome & Introductions
1. Chairman Dan Stec called the meeting to order at 1:37 PM

II. Visitors Issues
1. Route 149 Study Request
Aaron reported that the Town of Fort Ann sent him a letter requesting an accident
analysis and speed study for Route 149. DOT had previously done a speed study
in May 2006. According to NYSDOT Region 1 staff, it would not be inappropriate
for them to revisit the speed issue now. Aaron will send a letter to the Town of
Fort Ann supporting their request for NYSDOT to conduct a safety analysis and
speed study.

III. Administration
1. Approval of January, 2010 minutes

No approval of the minutes were made due to a lack of quorum.

IV. Transportation Improvement Program (TIP)
1. 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Amendment requests/summary
Aaron reported on the following TIP amendments that were processed since
the January 2010 meeting: Expanded I-87 paving (Exits 18-24), adding the
Make the Connection projects, County Route 12 and Lower Turnpike bridges.

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B. Recent Developments or Action Items for Ongoing Federal Aid Projects

i. NYSDOT
Ms. Mariotti reported that payments to contractors are sporadic, but
stimulus is being paid. They are currently adding up all the MPO TIP
amounts for the STIP. Ms. Ivey noted that the Lake Champlain bridge
has been awarded to Flat Iron. They have an aggressive schedule – the
proposed opening is 2011. Batchellerville Bridge has been awarded but
not let. Route 9P in Saratoga County has been let and awarded.
ii. Warren County DPW
Mr. Lamy reported that Corinth Rd is under construction. Milton St.
Bridge in Warrensburg was temporarily delayed due to utilities, but is
back on track now. Alder Brook bridge in Chester was been awarded.
Tannery Bridge in Stony Creek was delayed due to needing a temporary
pedestrian crossing to supplement Grist Mill Road Bridge as a detour.
Harrington Rd Bridge in Johnsburg is waiting on federal authorization.
Beach Rd will no longer include DEC as a project partner. Construction
is expected to begin in spring 2011. Glenwood Ave and Corinth Rd
(west of I-87) are both being milled and paved as part of the ARRA 1R
stimulus paving.
iii. Washington County DPW
None reported
iv. Saratoga County/Town of Moreau
None reported
v. City of Glens Falls
Mr. Bartholomew reported that the preliminary design for South St was
submitted to DOT. They expect to go to bid by Spring 2011. Mr.
Sullivan reported that Bay St is nearly complete and he is waiting to
hear from Mayor Diamond about finishing two sidewalks for the 2007
Make the Connection round of funding.
vi. Town of Queensbury
None reported

2. 2010 – 2015 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Review of Project Roster
Aaron asked if there were any comments on the proposed TIP. Mr. Lamy noted
that the Palisades Rd Bridge over the Spuytenduival Brook in Horicon was
previously ineligible for major rehabilitation because of the bridge rating but
was just recently yellow-flagged. Ms. Mariotti indicated that it might now be
eligible for element specific work.

Ms. Mariotti asked about the cost of the Route 9 safety project in South Glens
Falls. Aaron discussed that was a change in the project. There were previously
two projects, one to handle congestion mitigation with a roundabout, and one
was a safety project on Route 9. They were combined into one overarching
safety project that will address congestion with coordinated signals. This will
also allow sidewalks to be installed along Route 9 to address a gap in the
system. Mr. Valentine noted that he was pleased to see a project come from
the Route 9 Corridor Study done by BFJ in 2002.

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B. Approval of TIP/Self-Certification
Motion was made to approve the 2010-2015 TIP and Self-Certification
pending consensus approval from those voting members not in
attendance.

MOVED BY: Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Frank McCoy MOTION CARRIED

C. Air Quality Conformity Approval Authority – Aaron asked the Policy Committee
to defer approval of the conformity decision to the Technical Advisory
Committee. This will require another 30-day comment period.

V. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. GGFT Report – none

2. Consultant Projects
A. Travel Demand Model Upgrade – Aaron reported that Warner Transportation
Consulting is creating an expanded and more user friendly model for A/GFTC.
It should be complete in 3 to 4 months and then staff will receive training.

B. Lake George Corridor – A/GFTC has hired Chazen Companies to create
a streetscaping plan for the Route 9 Corridor entering Lake George from the
south. A public workshop is planned for July 7
th.

C. GIS Services – Sarah reported that Fountains Spatial has completed the TIP
project viewer (Google maps based viewer) and it is now on our website under
the Projects tab. They are working a similar viewer for traffic count data. A
desktop application for pavement scoring is also underway and we hope to
have it complete by the end of this summer.

3. Staff Activities – Aaron reported A/GFTC has moved to a new office location in
Glens Falls. We are planning on hosting a Road Safety Assessment training in
August. We had success with using the RSA process for Route 10 in Washington
County. It is currently in the TIP for $85,000, a low cost for potentially significant
safety improvements. We also sent out a letter to each member municipality
highlighting our availability to conduct RSAs, bicycle/pedestrian and sidewalk
assessments and the ability to retain a consultant for no more than $20,000 as we
are doing for the Town of the Lake George for the Lake George Gateway Corridor
study.

V. Other Items
None reported

VI. Adjourn

Motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 2:15 PM

MOVED BY: Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, April 14, 2010

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC April 14, 2010

Attendees Agency
Members
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau
Bob Hansen NYSDOT-Region 1
William Lamy Warren County DPW
Jim Lindsay Town of Kingsbury
Scott Sopczyk Greater Glens Falls Transit
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning Department
Others
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1
Peter Faith GPI
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW
John Wheatley EDC of Warren County
Staff
Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC

Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome and Introductions – TAC Chair Willy Grimmke brought the meeting to order
at 10:05 AM.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items

A. Self –Certification – Aaron – the draft Self-Certification was made available for
committee review on the A/GFTC website. It is required as part of the TIP process. A
motion was made to approve the Self-Certification for Policy Committee
consideration.

MOVED BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Scott Sopczyk MOTION CARRIED

B. Long Range Plan – Aaron – A/GFTC received FTA and FHWA approval on the LRP’s
conformity designation. The LRP is now officially completed and approved.

4. UPWP
A. Consultant / Staff Activities
1) Travel Demand Modeling – Aaron – A RFP was put out to upgrade and provide
a more user friendly modeling program for the office. Warner Transportation
Consulting was chosen as the consultant. There is a possibility that the office will
migrate away from VISUM and to TransCAD. Bob Hansen asked if TransCAD data
can easily be input into VISUM. It is assumed that the data can be interchanged.
2) GIS Services / Website updates – Sarah – Fountain Spatial has created a TIP
Project Viewer that is now available on the website under the Projects tab. It will
be updated as the TIP is updated. A similar Google Map-based application will be
created for our Traffic Counts data. Fountain Spatial also created a Transit
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Ridership Application that we are testing the last bugs out of now. This will also
evolve into a Pavement Scoring Application that the staff will use for local roads in
the Federal Aid Eligible road network. There is potential to score other roads as
requested. A/GFTC also recently revamped its current website, which includes
hosting the Greater Glens Falls Transit website. It is hoped this will give GGFT
more visibility and ability to post updated schedules and data as needed.
3) iPoolNorth – Sarah – iPoolNorth will have its one year anniversary on Earth
Day, April 22
nd. We will be challenging current iPoolNorth users to make one
transportation difference during the week of Earth Day and pushing the message
of iPoolNorth and the challenge to the public through the media. Mike Valentine
suggested we take this message to the school districts and let children take the
message home to their parents as well.
4) Local Traffic Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor – Aaron – the two school studies in
Glens Falls are done. There is currently a solicitation out for the Lake
George Gateway Corridor Plan. Responses are due today.
b. Solicitation – Aaron – Discussion ensued regarding taking on projects
first come/first serve or soliciting for projects and then ranking them
against each other. Aaron was concerned since the limit was raised to
$20,000 and local match was no longer required that we would be
overwhelmed with projects, but the Lake George Gateway Corridor is the
only one we’ve received so far. It was decided to stay with the first
come/first serve idea.
B. Transit
1) GGFT Update – Scott – A few of the TDP recommendations have been
implemented, including adding a midday run on Route 2 and extending Route 19
to the Village of Lake George more frequently. Will wait to implement other TDP
recommendations until the State budget finalizes. The ARRA projects are proving
difficult and tedious given the amount of money received. The smaller projects are
taking longer than anticipated.
2) JARC and New Freedom solicitation – Aaron – DOT issued a solicitation for
JARC (Job Access Reverse Commute) and New Freedom funds. If there are no
proposals received from small urban areas, DOT will open up the solicitation to
rural areas. Mike Valentine asked for an explanation of the programs. A/GFTC had
awarded the full JARC allocation to GGFT in 2009. GGFT opted to not pursue the
reimbursement award due to the administrative requirements attached to the
funding and not being able to meet those requirements while also undertaking
ARRA requirements.
3) NX Connector – Aaron – A/GFTC staff surveyed NX riders for feasibility of
connecting the NX and GGFT Route 5 trips. A minimum number of positive
responses were identified that would make the connection worthwhile. Discussion
ensued about NX and transit services on the Northway.

5. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County – Jeff – Corinth Rd. is underway and the detour had to be
implemented earlier than anticipated. Woolen Mill bridge will be demolished next
week. The area near Tannery Rd bridge has been cleared for a temporary bridge.
Bids have been received on the Alder Brook bridge. Contracts are being finalized
on the Stimulus 1R paving projects (Glenwood Avenue and Corinth Road west of
the Northway). Beach Rd is still in design and held up by DEC’s indecision on the
cost sharing agreement. DEC owns approximately 39% of the roadway and
therefore 39% of the project costs. If DEC backs out of the project that portion of
the project will not get done and therefore the project cost will decrease. Jeff
asked if that funding will stay in the MPO or not – Aaron responded that that 39%
was not necessarily programmed into the current TIP.

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2) Washington County – Willy – The 1Rs went to bid and were awarded. The
major drainage on the Whitehall bridges have been done. The Clinton Street
bridge has been demolished. County Route 61 will have a design report in June or
July. Working on incorporating the Lower Turnpike bridge into the project design
report for County Route 12. Trying to get the demolition for Dewey’s Bridge
funded. County Route 10 is waiting for DOT’s response on the project scope.

3) Saratoga County – Preston – The safety project at Route 9 and Spier Falls Rd
is planned for a December completion. The lights were changed at the Route 9
and 197 intersection allowing for protected SB left turn phase. Traffic tickets have
been issued and the population is starting to adjust their behavior, therefore
making a safer intersection.

4) NYSDOT – Bob – The Department is on a week-to-week budget. All projects
except the Crown Point bridge have been pushed to a April 29
th letting date.
Crown Point bridge is scheduled to be led on 4/15/10. DOT is paying ARRA and
CHIPs bills, but holding payment on all other bills.

B. Amendments and Modifications – Aaron – no new TIP amendments, but gave a list of
the amendments that have been added since 1/1/10.
• I-87 resurfacing was extended to exit 24
• South Street earmark added
• Funds were added to the Alder Brook project
• Right of Way was added to Beach Rd project

C. Draft 2010-2015 TIP
1) Draft Roster of Projects – Aaron – although this our smallest program since
2003, this draft program prepared in conjunction with Region 1 staff and based
upon the results of our Project Prioritization meeting addresses a number of
substantial transportation needs.
a. Review / Questions – Scott asked if JARC and New Freedom needed to be
on the TIP. Aaron will look into that. Jeff pointed out that there was an
oversight with not carrying over a previous project into this TIP.
Middleton bridge was on the last TIP. It needs to be relocated on a trout
stream, which is expensive and requires adhering to DEC regulations.
There is a fair amount of funding flexibility that we will be able to put it
on this TIP. Aaron will need the schedule from Warren County ASAP to
put it on this TIP. Discussion about Harrington Rd bridge also came up.
It was in the last TIP but not on this TIP. Aaron was under the
impression that Warren County was going to obligate that during this
TIP period. Warren County will get federal authorization by October 1
st in
order to finish it during this TIP period. Mike asked if $1 million is
enough for the bike/ped set aside. Aaron pointed out that we are
moving from $500,000 to $1 million over a five year period by changing
from two solicitations of $250,000 to annual solicitations of $200,000.
b. Illustrative Projects – Aaron noted that we can identify program needs in
the TIP narrative, such as Exit 20 and functionally obsolete structures.
We should also add in the TIP narrative the projects that were submitted
for this TIP but were not able to be accommodated due to lack of
funding.
c. Approval for Public Comment – Aaron hopes that this document will lend
itself to public review more so than previous formats. Discussion ensued
regarding the adequacy of time following the comment period to
meaningfully address any public comment.

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d. Schedule – Aaron – TIP needs to be in Main Office by May 29
th. There is
discussion that NYMTC will be unable to meet that deadline, so if we are
a few days late (for example, if public comment generates the need for
significant revisions) we won’t be holding up the STIP. A motion was
made to accept the 2010-2015 TIP with changes made as discussed.

MOVED BY: Jim Lindsay SECONDED BY: Bob Hansen MOTION CARRIED

6. Other Items – None

7. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – Aaron – Next TAC meeting will be planned for
late June. A motion was made to adjourn the meeting.

MOVED BY: Jim Lindsay SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, January 27, 2010

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Policy Committee Meeting
Minutes of Wednesday, January 27, 2010

Attendance:
Members
:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW (rep. F. Monroe)
Frank McCoy, Town of Lake George
Daniel Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Bill Rinaldi)
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Willard Peck)
William Watkins, Wa shington County
Others
:
Stu Baker, Town of Queensbury
Ed Bartholomew, City of Glens Falls
Michael Fiorillo, Village of Hudson Falls
Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Robert Hansen, NYSDOT Region 1
Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti, NYSDOT-Region 1
Patti Miller, Warren County STOP – DWI
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
John Wheatley, EDC of Warren County

A/GFTC Staff:

Monika Bulman, Admini strative Assistant
Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director

I. Welcome & Introductions
1. Introductory remarks- Chairman Dan St ec called the meeting to order at
1:38 PM
II. Visitors Issues – None
III. Administration
1. Approval of March 4, 2009 minutes

Motion was made to approve the March 4, 2009 minutes

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

2. Approval of Officers 2010-2012, Aa ron-Every two years the chairmanship
for the PC and TAC rotates between Warren and Washington County. The
Policy Committee chair goes to Warre n County for two years and the
Technical Advisory Committee chair goes to Washington County. Policy
Committee: Dan Stec, Chai rman; Mike Suprenant, Vice Chairman; and Mary
Ivey, Secretary. Technical Advisory Committee: Willy Grimmke, Chairman;
Bill Lamy, Vice Chairman.

Motion was made to approve the Officers for 2010-2012

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

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3. Approval of Joint Cooperative Pla nning Agreement (handout), Aaron-On
November 18
th the TAC was provided with this agreement and asked to
review it and discuss it with the Policy Committee. This is a required
document that outlines the cooperative planning agreement among the MPO,
the State Department of Transportati on and the Transit Operator when
developing the major financial documents that guide the planning process.

Motion was made to allo w Aaron Frankenfeld to sign the agreement and
forward it to DOT and Transit for their respective signatures.

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Frank McCoy MOTION CARRIED

4. New contact information, Aaron-A/GFTC will be moving to a new space in
Glens Falls by February 10. The addr ess will be 11 South Street, Suite 203.
We will have new phone and fax numbers. The Washington County e-mail
extension will change to agftc.org. When all the contact information is in
place, it will be forwarde d to committee members.

IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. GGFT Report (handout) Scott Sopczyk – Capital projects included the
procurement and delivery of new buse s; completed the Transportation
Development Plan; overall system riders hip was down 6.2% last year but can
be attributed to a service change during Americade week. Mr. Hansen
reported that CDTA was down 10% but not due to one event. Mr. Sopczyk’s
transit budget took into account anticipated cuts. Mr. Hansen still feels there
needs to be synergy between Glens Falls Transit and CDTA for interregional
transportation.

2. Consultant Projects
A. Transit Development Plan (Adoption)

Motion was made to adopt the Transit Development Plan

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED
B. Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan (Adoption), Mr. Stec told the PC
that on Monday night (1/25) the Town of Queensbury passed a
resolution adopting the Plan. Aaron said that by adopting the Plan the
concepts in the document are give n some programming weight. Some
concepts that have been speculated about for years have been put to
rest. The public meetin gs were well attended.

Motion was made to adopt the Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

C. School Circulation Studies, Aaron-The Abraham Wing (GFCSD) circulation
study has been completed. Big Cro ss (GFSD) study should be completed
shortly. The purpose of the studies was to assist the schools in coming up
with ideas to improve the school distri cts’ conditions for elementary school
students that walk or bike to school. Safety and congestion concerns were
reviewed. The crime and safety i ssue is difficult to address from a
transportation element. Other issues resulting from the studies:

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Non-standard sign placement, st aff parking, crosswalks, safety
education, crossing guard programs.

D. GIS Services, Aaron-Attempti ng to work out some technical
problems with the ridership tool used to collect data for laptop entry.
Have a very nice project visualization tool that shows where all the TIP
projects are, financial info, pictures, and programming information.
The contract will continue to the next state fiscal year to allow work on
a pavement management inventory tool.

3. Staff Activities A. Long Range Plan (Adoption), Aaron-The public comment period
closed at the first of the year. The plan has been under development
for four years and is the core planning document of the transportation
planning process. The Plan suppor ts our programming activities (TIP)
and our UPWP. Once we have MPO approval, it will be sent to
Environmental Sciences Bureau of DOT who will forward it to FHWA
and FTA. FHWA and FTA need to ap prove the air quality conformity
statement which also went out for public comment.

Motion was made to approve the Long Range Plan for adoption

MOVED BY : Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Bob Hansen MOTION CARRIED

Aaron extended his thanks to everyone who participated in preparing and
reviewing the document.

B. Proposed Work Program (UPWP) 2010-2011, (handout),Aaron
went over some of the accomplishments in 2009 as listed on the
handoutand reviewed how our funding works. We will be getting
$312,949 from FHWA and $43,722 from a Grant from FTA. Both of
those amounts are the same we re ceived last year. Our unspent
money will increase the pot by $235, 000. The money is distributed to
four categories: Program Suppo rt and Administration, General
Development and Comprehensive Pla nning, Long Range Transportation
Planning and Transportation Improvement Program. Since there is no
large engineering study planned for 2010, the focus will go to assist
member municipalities in providing local engineering traffic consulting
services. This is how the school studies were funded. The Lake
Luzerne concept of intersection realignment and a streetscape design
project for Mr. McCoy, in the To wn of Lake George, are current
candidates for engineerin g services. Aaron would also like to get out
some safety roadside assessments contracts. The above fall under
Task 2. Under Task 3 an upgrade to the travel demand model is a
priority. An RFP is out for this. Also, hope to update the regional
bicycle and pedestrian plan. Before we can go forward with the Fort
Edward/Kingsbury Canal Corridor Indust rial Area Re-use Plan, we need
some direction from Washington Count y. Task 4 is the Transportation
Improvement Program. Project soli citation is out. Should have
projects returned to our offi ce by the end of the week.

Motion was made to approve the draft UPWP for a 30 day public comment
period

MOVED BY : Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Frank McCoy MOTION CARRIED

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V. Transportation Improvement Program(TIP)
1. 2010-2015 Transportation Improvement Program, Aaron
A. Project Solicitation-due by the end of the week
B. Allocations, the sub-allocations provided to A/GFTC are smaller
than what we are accustomed to. Adjustments will have to be
made to the program as a resu lt. We are getting some new
highway project candidates. We will have more projects than the
program can support.

Mr. Hansen pointed out that the numbers that are out now are
conjecture and we won’t really kn ow where we stand until the next
highway act comes through.

C. Program Reconciliation (discussed above)
D. Second stimulus round- Mr. Hansen, The House bill is pretty well
formulated. The Senate appears to be the sticking point. What
we can expect is probably around another $100mil for the Region,
a very short time to put a project out on the street, project has to
be shovel ready, ROWs need to be done. On Stimulus 1, FHWA is
aggressively monitoring construction specs.

2. 2007-12 TIP
A. Amendment request – I- 87/Pottersville, Aaron-Half of the project
was programmed (replacing only one of the two structures) but
now it is better to have both structures replaced at the same time.
We will adjust the Interstate Maintenance funds to comply with
DOT’s request. This amendment request was approved by the TAC
but because of the $ scale, a pub lic comment period was required.
It has been out for public comment and closed on January 23,
2010 with no comment.

Motion was made to approve amendm ent request for I-87/Pottersville

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

Aaron- We missed a TIP update cycle because of the challenges some of the other
MPOs had in putting together a TIP. Some of the larger MPOs are struggling with the
TIP timeframe again. If one MPO in the Stat e fails to deliver a TIP, then there is no
STIP. DOT has asked us to approve language in the TIP and state that the 4
th year
of our TIP program can be rolled up into the STIP.

Motion was made to change the language in the TIP from 3
rd to 4th year

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED
B. Other Amendments-(handout), Aaron-one needs an administrative
change and deals with the railroad bridges in Whitehall.
The next amendment is a rail project initiative and is not a formal
amendment. This is a service upgrade.

Motion was made to approve the amendment requests from NYSDOT

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

Policy Committee Minutes
Page 5 January 27, 2010

C. Recent developments or action items for ongoing federal aid
projects
a) New York State Department of Transportation, Bob Hansen-
Batchellerville Bridge-next week CD TC will entertain an amendment
to proceed with construction.NYSDOT has replied to the Village of
Hudson Falls regarding the Rout e 4 project.Congressman Murphy
requested DOT to come up with suggestions for special line items.
Mr. Hansen came up with Main Street in South Glens Falls,
Roundabout at Burgoyne Avenue, and the Roundabout at Fort Ann.

b) Warren County DPW, Bill Lamy-Construction has started on the
Corinth Road/Exit 18 project; Milton Street has been awarded; the
second stimulus-funded bridge in Stony Creek will go to
construction this year; Alter Brook Bridge in the Town of Chester
should begin construction in 2010 ; Beach Road project should be
going to bid later in this year and construction should start in
2011.

c) Washington County DPW, Willy Grimmke-one stimulus project is
underway but is shut down for the winter, a portion of the drainage
work is complete and the bridge work will start in the spring;
County Rte 12 supplemental has been authorized.

d) Saratoga County/Town of Moreau, Mike Valentine-nothing to
present. Aaron met with Mr. Jenk ins when the project solicitation
went out. Mr. Jenkins pointed out a safety project that the
department had been planning for Rte 9. This project will be
reprogrammed.

e) City of Glens Falls, Ed Bartholomew-The City is waiting for the
official letter from Senator Schumer/DOT for the $970K grant for
So. Street.

f) Town of Queensbury, Mr. Stec- The Town is excited about Main
Street getting started.

VI. Proposed meeting schedule, Aaron-will probably have another PC meeting
in May to approve the TIP. TAC will probably meet in February.

VII. Other Items, Frank McCoy asked if he had to bring up his streetscape
project now. Aaron noted that A/GFTC should be able to provide some
assistance.Wayne LaMothe questioned whether the dollar amount of the
engineering service projects should be increased from $10K to 20K since we
do not have a big consulting project on the table this year. Aaron said we can
do this but we may not be able to do as many of them.

Motion was made to increase the small engineering projects to 20K

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

VIII. Motion made to adjo urn the meeting at 2:58.

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, November 18, 2009  

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC November 18, 2009
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Brian Brockway Town of Fort Edward 747-5501 746-1071
Chris DeBolt Wash. County Planning 746-2290 746-2293
Willy Grimmke Wash. County DPW 746-2442 746-2441
Bob Hansen NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0456 388-0430
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning 761-6410 761-6411
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Joe Sullivan City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834 761-3874
Steven Sweeney NYS Canal Corp. 471-5033 471-5035
Mike Valentine Saratoga Co. Planning Bd. 884-4705 884-4780
Others

Robert Cherry NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0228 388-0430
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0439 388-0430
Keith Oborne Town of Queensbury 761-8265
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair William Lamy called the meeting to
order at 10:08 am.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –
A. Conformity MOU, Aaron- This was an item already approved by the TAC via
mail ballot. FHWA suggested the MOU be developed between A/GFTC and CDTC
and basically outlining the planning relationships and responsibilities that need to
happen within the air quality non-attainment area. This document has been
reviewed, approved and with Mr. Lamy’s signature today will be sent to CDTC.

B. Joint Cooperative Planning Agreement, Aaron-(handout) This is a federal
requirement requesting us to develop an agreement among DOT, the transit
operator (GGFT) and the MPO to identify the joint responsibilities and develop
financial plans related to the federal transportation planning process. Mr. Sopczyk

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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November 18, 2009
Page 2

was not able to attend today and indicated a preference to be present for any
substantial discussion. Aaron suggested the TAC review the agreement and get
back to him with comments or suggestions. If there are no additional comments,
Aaron will sign the agreement.

Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Consultant/Staff Activities
1) LRP update, Aaron- The draft LRP was approved by the TAC via ballot.
Going public with the draft long range plan hinges on the Interagency
Consultation Group (ICG), a statewide committee of resource agencies and
transportation organizations that is tasked with oversight of the air quality
conformity process. We are seeking conformity determination approval on our
document by stating that we are not having an impact upon conformity by not
having any substantial capacity related projects listed in the Town of Moreau.
We hope to be able to go out for public comment soon.

2) Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan, Aaron- This Plan is complete.
Copies are available on our web site and we have a limited number of paper
copies. The Plan accomplished what was intended. The consultants looked at
several of the bigger concepts that have floating around for years such as new
interchanges and a direct connection to the Great Escape. Mr. Lamy asked
what the next steps were to implement the study’s recommendations. The Plan
identifies some solutions and it now comes down to programming,
prioritization, and balance. The next step is to get TAC approval for the Plan
to be submitted to the Policy Committee to formally adopt the Plan. A motion
was made to have the Plan referred to the Policy Committee, DOT and to the
Town for their consideration.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

Mr. Valentine asked if the Plan could be implemented in segments. Aaron
remarked that this is a very small corridor and there are various alternative
recommendations and does not feel this should be taken on in phases. A
brief discussion followed regarding if the involved parties have the will to
move forward with the recommendations/alternatives in the Plan. This plan
did not have a preferred alternative. Mr. Hansen pointed out that because of
the current financial turbulence facing New York State, there are no
guarantees when or if this project could even move forward.

3) Abe Wing/Big Cross Pedestrian Circulation Assessments, Aaron-These
school access studies were taken on as part of our local traffic engineering
assistance program. The Abe Wing document is completed. There are good
recommendations in the study and the school district is very interested in
some of them (crosswalk delineation, moving advance warning signs for
pedestrians around, changing the signalization of adjacent signalized
intersection). We are working on a similar document for the Big Cross School.
This is in a different school district (Abe Wing is in the FG Common School
District while Big Cross is in the GF Unified School District) and the process is a
little different. Hope to have a PTA meeting for Big Cross in December to
present some of the recommendations. The maximum cost for each of the
studies was $10K with no cost to the municipalities.

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November 18, 2009
Page 3

4) Lake Luzerne intersection analysis, Aaron-This is a candidate project
for the local traffic engineering assistance program. The County Planning
Department brought his project to our attention. The request is to get
engineering assistance for redesigning an intersection to make it a more
conventional configuration. Mr. LaMothe presented the request on behalf of
the Town of Lake Luzerne. The County is working with the Town on a
streetscape program and the redesign of their main street. We have three
consultants on call for the local traffic engineering assistance program. The
TAC approved this study as a candidate project but Mr. Lamy wished to discuss
this project with Aaron before involving an outside consultant.

5) Travel Demand Modeling, Aaron-An RFP has been sent out to get an
outside consultant to come in and look at our traffic model in anticipation of
the non-attainment designation for the two-county area. This necessitates an
expansion of our current model from beyond the urban area (Exit 17 to Exit
23).

6) GIS Services/Website update, Sarah-Fountains Spatial has been
creating a ridership application, a program that will allow staff to ride the
transit buses and count the riders getting on and off and record the
information on a laptop. This replaces the old system of recording the data on
paper, coming back to the office and entering the information to the computer.
The program is currently being tested in-house to work out any possible
problems. Fountains Spatial has also done a web application that will give us
better transparency of our TIP and the TIP projects so the public can get a
better idea of what we are doing, when, where, how and why. This application
is ready to go and we are waiting for the A/GFTC website to be reformatted.
Sarah asked the committee to visit A/GFTC’s website and give us ideas on how
they think it can run better. The intent is to improve the layout, format, make
it user friendly, par down information. Mannix Marketing is our consultant.

7) iPoolNorth, Sarah-About seven months ago the iPoolNorth website was
set up. There are 68 members and the hope is to increase the membership to
100. A free give-away (reusable shopping bags) is offered as incentive to get
people to signup. Ads have been put in the newspapers and we are using other
resources to get people to participate in the program. One of the tools on
iPoolNorth is a commuter calendar and people using the program enter
information. The results from people using this tool: $1,000 has been saved
in fuel, over 2,000 lbs. of carbon dioxide has been prevented from entering the
air, and 90 trips were eliminated. Not all of the iPoolNorth users record
information on the commuter calendar.

The boundaries for iPoolNorth are for those commuting in or out of Warren,
Washington and Saratoga Counties. The program does interact with the
Capital District’s web site (iPool2). Other commuting boundaries were
discussed.

B. Transit
1) GGFT Update-Mr. Sopczyk was not in attendance

2) Transit Development Plan, Aaron-This study was recently completed
by Nelson/Nygaard. Elements reviewed: transit’s routing structure, public
surveys for transit riders and non-riders; scenarios for future funding.

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November 18, 2009
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N/N came up with good recommendations; some of them are already being
considered for implementation by Mr. Sopczyk.

3) NX Connector Survey, Aaron-Sarah and Aaron have started surveying
passengers that are using the existing NX. This is a coach bus that goes
between Exit 17 (South Glens Falls Park and Ride Lot is on Marion Avenue
just west of Rte. 9) and downtown Albany. There is a stop in Clifton Park.
An attempt is being made to determine if the passengers would have an
interest in a local bus connection to the Park and Ride. GGFT has agreed to
try this as a pilot if we can demonstrate that there are a reasonable number
of riders willing to pay for it. Brief discussion regarding fare boxes, unified
swipe cards, single-seat rides and CDTA involvement took place.

5. TIP
A. Make the Connection Program, Sarah-Five applications were received; three
will be fully funded and one will receive partial funding. Fully funded: Town of
Granville to do work on their rails to trails; Town of Warrensburg to do some
sidewalk replacement; Village of Whitehall to do sidewalk replacement and
Partial funding: Town of Lake Luzerne to do some sidewalk installation along
Route 9N. There were more applications asking for money than there was
money available. Aaron had a discussion with Mary Anne Mariotti regarding
letting dates for this program. Because of the success of this program, it may
become an annual program.

B. Project Updates
1) Warren County, Kevin Hajos-Bids have been opened on Corinth
Road; opened bids last Thursday for the Milton Street project; Stony Creek
and Grist Mill were completed about a month ago and work on the
Warrensburg Road Bridge will resume in the Spring.

Joe Sullivan reported on the Bay Street stimulus project. The project is
70% completed from Sanford Street to city line. Seeding. installing curbs and
site work left to be done. Paving will take place in Spring 2010. The project
should be completed in June.

Jeff Tennyson- Beach Road will be let next fall; additional money will
be needed (2-3% increase); looking to add a ROW portion to the project; TIP
amendment will be needed. Aaron had suggested to Mr. Tennyson the
completion of a new TIP application rather than an amendment.

2) Washington County, Willy Grimmke-Mr. Grimmke started with the
stimulus projects. The bridges in Whitehall have been contracted and
awarded; the bulk of the work will not start until spring; the two 1R projects
will be delayed, due in part to a FHWA audit); Cty Rte 12 supplemental to
include the Lower Turnpike Bridge rehab; County 61 over the Battenkill is in
the process of progressing design and working on ROW.

3) Saratoga County, Mike Valentine had a question about the progress on
Rte. 9 and Cty. Rte. 24 Spier Falls. Mr. Hansen did not have the material with
him to answer the questions.

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November 18, 2009
Page 5

4) NYSDOT, Robert Hansen – Congress is looking hard at a potential
second stimulus package for roads and bridges; discussion has taken place
with Hudson Falls about the ongoing Route 4 project; there are two projects
coming up before the end of the year, assuming the budget doesn’t collapse
completely – I-87 Rte 9 in Pottersville and Rte. 372 over the Battenkill.

C. Amendments and Modifications-none

D. Next TIP Update
1) Allocations, Aaron has no numbers yet. Projects have to be ready to
go if and when the stimulus package becomes available. This raises the
question whether we want to introduce more design for more projects earlier
in the process without necessarily putting construction phases in because we
don’t have the money. Mr. Grimmke brought up the concern with the Brooks
Act and the ramifications. We have no allocations and we don’t know what we
are dealing with yet, but we need to get projects ready. Aaron would still like
to receive from project sponsors new applications whether they are already in
the TIP or not.

2) Selection Procedures: (handouts) The process went fairly well the last
time. The projects were easy to score. People were generally satisfied with
the results of the scoring process. Ms. Mariotti said she had developed some
selection criteria for bridges and would be happy to share them with us.
Aaron wanted to point out to the municipalities that we have to be in a
position to entertain federal funding for pavement rehabs. Local
municipalities have not usually approached us with this.

3) Solicitation for TIP and UPWP projects: Aaron wondered whether we
should be dong a solicitation for TIP or UPWP projects and if there were big
planning projects that require assistance from A/GFTC, locally or regionally.
Aaron would like to see the annual planning program going in the direction of
smaller projects (school studies, safety assessments).

6. Other Items- Wayne LaMothe thanked Warren County DPW for the
work done on the canal trail along the Feeder Canal. The trail was resurfaced.
Bob Hansen-Aaron received some information about the state finance plan for the
remainder of this year and was advised where there may be an issue regarding
temporary restrictions on new federal and state authorizations unless they are
under $100K.

7. Next Meeting schedule and adjourn- Aaron asked if he sent out a project
solicitation could he reasonably expect to get project applications back by end of the
year. The end of January was suggested. A meeting will be scheduled in February.
TIP should be updated by the summer of 2010 for a final committee-approved
document. Aaron also brought up E-STIP. All the MPOs will feed their information
into standardized software that generates the STIP from the TIPs.

Mr. Valentine made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:50 AM.

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, May 19, 2009  

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC May 19, 2009
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Brian Brockway Town of Fort Edward 747-5501 746-1071
Chris DeBolt Wash. County Planning 746-2290 746-2293
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls 747-5426 747-5597
Willy Grimmke Wash. County DPW 746-2442 746-2441
Bob Hansen NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0456 388-0430
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
Jim Lindsay Town of Kingsbury 747-2188 747-9115
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Joe Sullivan City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834
Steven Sweeney NYS Canal Corp. 471-5033 471-5035
Others

Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0439 388-0430
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Vice Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting
to order at 1:03 pm.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –

A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the January 5
th meeting minutes

MOVED BY: Joe Sullivan SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

B. NYSDEC nonattainment designation recommendation, Aaron:
Warren and Washington County have been proposed for ozone nonattainment
designation based upon a monitor reading located in Stillwater. Aaron drafted
technical arguments to oppose this recommendation especially since we have an
almost rural population density. The Census data being used to designate
nonattainment areas also appears to be misapplied.

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

TAC Minutes
May 19, 2009
Page 2

The designation recommendation goes into effect next year and until then Corinth
Road and the Quaker Road projects that had once been proposed are exempt.
Washington County passed a resolution opposing the recommendation and sent it to
the congressional delegation. Warren County indicated they would follow the path
Washington County has taken and a motion was made to present to the Policy
Committee for approval the opposition of the NYSDEC nonattainment designation
recommendation.

MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Chris DeBolt MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Transit
1. GGFT Update, Scott Sopczyk
Mr. Sopczyk received a call from the FTA Regional Office with a grant
number for a stimulus project so funds can start to be obligated. There is a
meeting tonight to discuss the physical relocation of the GGFT terminal to a
nearby location on Ridge St just south of the existing terminal.
2. Transit Development Plan, Scott Sopczyk
Very close to developing and producing a draft recommendation.
Conceptually what we want to accomplish is the elimination or reduction of
unproductive feeder routes and increase the service on Glen St., Corinth
Rd., So. Glens Falls, Bay Rd., Ft. Edward runs. The hope is to increase
service without increased cost. There has been reasonable public input and
the TDP is moving along.
3. CDTA/GGFT service connection (NX), Nothing new on this
4. 5316/5317 solicitation, Aaron
The application deadline for FTA for program 521/5317 was last Thursday.
GGFT submitted an application for $43K for sustaining some of the evening
services that had been utilizing another funding source that has since run
out. Also some of the money will go towards the coordination service
initiative on Bay Road. A motion was made to endorse GGFT’s application.

MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Jeff Tennyson MOTION CARRIED

5. Ridesharing software demonstration – Sarah:
For Earth Day a new web site was launched called iPoolNorth.org and it
coordinates with the Capital District car pooling web site, iPool2. The
objective of this site is to allow people interested in ridesharing to log into
the site and find a commute partner. It is very easy to use and to date 37
users have signed up and the monthly report given to A/GFTC indicates the
site is averaging one match per search. Seven users are in
communication. Hopefully the planned advertising blitz will result in more
users/matches. Mr. Sopczyk asked if this would be useful for patients
getting to medical office visits.

B. Consultant / Staff Activities

1.
GIS Services, Aaron
Fountains Spatial, the consultant we hired, is updating and improving our
in-house data system, developing desktop data tracker, getting some
handheld data collection to repeat the FTA passenger survey and to
establish a web based application we can use to share data with the public.

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May 19, 2009
Page 3

Hope to have three web google maps available on our web site. One will
deal with data, one will deal with conditions (bridges, pavement), one will
deal with TIP projects.

Mr. Hansen asked what the background for the database was – Aaron said
it was satellite imagery. We were encouraged by our consultant to go with
Google Maps because it is an interface that many web users are familiar
with. Ms. Mariotti expressed her concerns with the compatibility of this
program with public and private use.

2. Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan, Aaron
A committee meeting is scheduled for May 22
nd at 10 am at the Warren
County Municipal Center, Room 6-103 to review the draft final report
prepared by Creighton Manning Engineering. Some recommendations:
Access management; back access off of Exit 20 north bound; interchange
modification; improvements with signalized intersections. After the
meeting on the 22nd a third public meeting will be held to present the
findings of the study.

3. Abe Wing / Big Cross Pedestrian Circulation Assessments, Aaron
These projects were selected through our on-call consulting services
agreement with Resource Systems Group, Inc. A request for letter of
interest was sent to our consultants and RSG had the most appealing
approach. They have a certified Safe Routes to School trainer on their
staff and will engage the public during a regularly scheduled school
meeting. Abe Wing had an interest in having some of the pedestrian
circulation issues reviewed (drop off zones, speed, bike facilities, traffic
signal operations. Data collection will be done at Abe Wing on May 21st.
Big Cross also expressed an interest in using our on-call engineering
consultant. The local match previously needed for these types of projects
has been waived.

5. TIP
A. Amendments and Modifications (handout), Aaron
DOT requested that we list two enhancement projects: West Brook
Conservation Initiative and Dix Bridge Rehabilitation. Adding these requires
no committee action.

ARRA (Stimulus) Projects
A new request is the Batten Kill RR over NYS 372 (picture handout-illustrates
a clearance issue with the structure); Mr. Hansen pointed out that the
Governor passed these stimulus projects down to the Regional Office for
consideration only. The projects need to be ready to go. Mr. Grimmke
explained how he came up with the cost for this project and after some
discussion it was decided to increase the cost to $3M. The motion was made to
present to the Policy Committee this project for addition to the TIP after a 30
day comment period is completed. Doing so does not guarantee that this
project will receive ARRA funding.

MOVED BY: Joe Sullivan SECONDED BY: Scott Sopczyk MOTION CARRIED

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May 19, 2009
Page 4

1R Paving Projects were previously approved and require no formal
amendment. Mr. Hansen distributed a handout.

Safety Projects: County Rte. 12, Granville was added to the TIP via
administrative modification, having been derived from a regional setaside.

Spier Falls Road/Rte. 9
Mr. Hansen said that the main office has been pushing for the use of SHIP
funds. Everyone appears to be having difficulty finding candidates for this
funding source. There are safety needs out there but no clear local candidates
other than County Route 12 project (noted above)have emerged. This project
includes a state to federal shift of funding, so this needs a public comment
period, Policy Committee approval and an amendment.

A motion was made to release the proposed Spier Falls Road/Route 9 Project
amendment for public comment.

MOVED BY: Mike Fiorillo SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

NYSDOT Bridge 5-7 Repairs letter was distributed and a motion was made to
release the proposed amendment for public comment.

MOVED BY: Scott Sopczyk SECONDED BY: Mike Fiorillo MOTION CARRIED

B. Project Updates, It was proposed to forego project updates, but

1. Warren County, Jeff Tennyson did want to report the following to the
Committee: There are almost weekly meetings now with the Town of
Queensbury regarding Corinth Road; the utility issues are still being worked
out; have concerns about being ready for the September deadline for funding;
should know by July if the September deadline will be met.

6. Other Items
– Annual MPO Conference June 4-5, Aaron relayed the information about the
conference to the Committee
– Mr. Sopczyk announced there would be a NYPTA meeting at the Queensbury
Hotel June 10-12.

7. Next meeting and adjourn, the next meeting TBA; adjournment took place at
2:40 pm

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, March 4, 2009  

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Attendance:
Members
:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Jack Diamond, Mayor, City of Glens Falls
Keith Donohue, Mayor, Village of So. Glens Falls
Preston Jenkins, Supervisor, Town of Moreau
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW (rep. F. Monroe)
James Lindsay, Supervisor, Town of Kingsbury
Brian Rowback, Regional Director, NYSDOT Region 1
Daniel Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Bill Rinaldi)
Louis Tessier, Supervisor, Town of Lake George
JoAnn Trinkle, Chairman, Washington County Board of Supervisors
Others
:
Brian Brockway, Town of Fort Edward (rep. M. Suprenant)
Tom Donohue, City of Glens Falls
Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Dan Hall, City of Glens Falls
Robert Hansen, NYSDOT Region 1
Frank Komoroske, NYSDOT
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County Planning Board

A/GFTC Staff:

Monika Bulman, Administrative Assistant
Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck, Transportation Planner

I. Welcome & Introductions
1. Introductory remarks- Chairman JoAnn Trinkle called the meeting to order
at 1:35 PM
II. Visitors Issues – None
Administration
III. Approval of March 12, 2008 minutes

Motion was made to approve the March 12, 2008 minutes

MOVED BY : James Lindsay SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. Transit
A. GGFT Report-(handout) Scott Sopczyk – Mr. Sopczyk reviewed
the capital projects as outlined in the handout. GGFT intends to
make full use of the anticipated ARRA funds expected to be
allocated to public transit capital improvements in the Glens Falls
area. This will go towards projects that funds were not available
Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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March 4, 2009

for previously including replacement for an in-ground vehicle lift
in the garage, rehab and slight relocation of the Ridge Street
terminal, and the purchase of a hybrid bus.

B. Transit Development Plan (TDP), GGFT has been working with
A/GFTC and a consultant to prepare a new Transportation
Development Plan. Existing service structure is being examined
and a set of recommendations for future service levels will be
developed. A public Open House is scheduled March 9
th so the
draft recommendations will be reviewed. Final recommendations
are expected this summer.

2008 Transit ridership was the highest in the history of the
system which began operation in 1984. Mr. Hansen asked Mr.
Sopczyk if he was still working with CDTA on the NX runs. Mr.
Sopczyk said discussion is still taking place and a unified fare
medium is under consideration. Discussion also took place
regarding potential services generated by Luther Forest.

2. Consultant Projects
A. Aviation Road Corridor Study-Approval, Aaron – The study is
complete and has resulted in a good product. The Study has been
approved by the Town of Queensbury. The core recommendations
yield about 3.4 million dollars worth of potential improvements.

A motion was made to adopt the Study.

MOVED BY: Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mayor Donohue MOTION CARRIED

Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan-Aaron, Expecting a draft of the
final plan within a month. There are not many easy solutions
along this corridor and interchange options are limited. Rte 9 is
the core problem.

B. GIS Services, Aaron-Our consultant, Fountains Spatial, has
delivered to us an updated data system including a desktop map
management tool bar for us. Currently they are working on a web
application that will improve our ability to visualize our data, show
our TIP and planning projects, etc. They are also working on a
transit data ridership collection tool. Hope to complete all of these
services by late spring.

3. 2009 UPWP Update Approval, (handouts) Aaron – There are a few active
consultant projects that will carry over into this UPWP. New in the work
program are the offering of road safety audits and training for municipal
staff (planning and zoning boards). The training will kick off April 14 with
the offering of access management training session. This is an ITE web
session so it is eligible for professional development hours.
The on-call engineering services are still being offered and do not require
a local match. The cap is $10K. Also planned is an update to the bike/ped
plan. The overall program is smaller this year due to unreleased carryover
and the threat of rescission.

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A motion was moved to approve the administrative 2008 UPWP
Update pending any public comments received prior to March 11.

MOVED BY: Dan Stec SECONDED BY: James Lindsay MOTION CARRIED

4. Long Range Plan, Aaron-Drafts of all the chapters are complete. Still
working on the financial chapter. Once the financial element is complete,
the draft LRP will be submitted to the TAC for its approval and subsequent
public comment and review.

V. Transportation Improvement Program(TIP)
1. 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Stimulus Program (handout), Brian Rowback gave a powerpoint
presentation highlighting the information on the handout. The NY
share for high and bridges under the bill is estimated to be $1.120
billion, the NY share for transit $1.245 billion. Rail discretionary is
one of the big surprises in this bill and covers high speed rail
under the discretionary program, but we still do not know how the
funds may be applied. Aviation also received discretionary grants.
For statewide funds there are provisions that 50% must be
obligated within 120 days of apportionment. For any state $ with
obligated balances, the funds will be redistributed to other states.
There is a locally administered federal aid project manual
available. Mr. Rowback pointed out that Mary Anne Mariotti is the
key person to contact for all of A/GFTC projects, issues and
concerns as it relates to DOT or federal aid.
Mr. Rowback commented that our MPO is unique in that most of
our projects are local projects. Even with the stimulus package
there is still a much larger need that DOT sees growing (bridges
and pavements). Region 1’s strategy will be to prevent all of this
aging infrastructure from requiring major work simulataneously.
Robert Hansen -There are some set-asides that are required to be
done for rural areas and small urban areas. Bay Street in Glens
Falls would help to satisfy our small urban requirement and the
bridge projects in Washington and Warren Counties will help to
satisfy the rural requirements.
B. Stimulus Amendment – Aaron – The material faxed out on Friday
is different than what is in front of you (handout). Aaron
summarized the projects. The bridge projects for Warren County
did not include the Woolenmill Bridge project in today’s handout
because of a fear of not meeting the deadline date due to a lack of
utility agreements to date. Also the list of Transit projects is
different than what was faxed out. Aaron noted that FHWA will
not require a TIP amendment in order to make transfers of
existing TIP projects eligible for receipt of stimulus funds.
Additional discussion included: front loading TIPs; adding new
projects to the STIP as illustrative which means they do not
appear in the fiscal totals and a possible round two/highway act.

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A motion was made to approve the Stimulus TIP Amendment

MOVED BY: Mayor Diamond SECONDED BY: Dan Stec MOTION CARRIED

C. Adjustment of TIP change procedures (handout), Aaron- Not too
different from the previously approved amendment procedure in
2000. It identifies any TIP deletion or addition as requiring a TIP
amendment. Anything that is deemed to be a TIP amendment
requires public comment. The handout is self-explanatory. Bob
Hansen mentioned that the scope and cost changes on our
procedures are different than CDTC.

A motion was made to approve the TIP change procedures

MOVED BY: Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: James Lindsay MOTION CARRIED

D. Change in TIP schedule, Aaron-The stimulus program has caused
uncertainty. The MPO directors, after a discussion, decided to
delay TIP cycles for 6 months. DOT suggested delaying it for a
year. To keep the TIP current we just need to take more action by
TIP amendment or administrative modifications.

2. Recent developments or action items for ongoing federal aid projects
A. New York State Department of Transportation, Brian
Rowback/Robert Hansen-Marchiselli money may be reassigned; the
CHIPS program is up in the air.

B. Warren County DPW, Bill Lamy –
-The Corinth Road/ Exit 18, Have to meet a September deadline to
have access to the funds needed. Last ROW of being acquired;
Town is finishing up the underground utility design; Supervisor
Stec is very confident the September deadline will be met.
-The two bridges that were included in the stimulus amendment
are ready to go.
Mr. Hansen asked if Mr. Lamy had an updated estimate for Corinth
road. Mr. Hansen would like to go through the estimate to
determine if everything is eligible and that there is enough to pay
for it.

C. Washington County, Willy Grimmke –
-As per the amendment the railroad brides in the Village of
Whitehall are stimulated. Working with DOT and A/GFTC to address
CR 12 and Lower Turnpike over the Mettawee.
D. Saratoga/Town of Moreau, Preston Jenkins-nothing to report

Mr. Rowback- prior to the stimulus package which includes a 3%
setaside for enhancement projects, an announcement was going to
be made as to what projects were selected. Now things have to be
reevaluated.

E. City of Glens Falls, Mayor Diamond
Is happy the Bay Street project is back on the TIP; the city will be
doing the infrastructure subsurface improvements needed; moving
along with some issues on South Street

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F. Town of Queensbury, Dan Stec
Thanked A/GFTC for help with the studies on Aviation Rd. and Exit
20; electrical utility work on Corinth Road is in final design;
easement issues should be resolved soon; Queensbury is
committed to the Corinth Road project and will meet the deadline.

VI. Revised meeting schedule, Aaron-previously a meeting schedule was
distributed but it is difficult to adhere to with meeting conflicts. Tentatively a
TAC meeting is planned for May and a Policy Committee meeting for June.

VII. Next meeting and adjourn
Next meeting is anticipated in June.
A motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 3:15

A/GFTC Planning Committee Minutes – Wednesday, July 16, 2008

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC July 16, 2008
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Brian Brockway Town of Fort Edward 747-5501 746-1071
Michael Fiorillo Village of Fort Edward 747-5426 747-5597
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290 746-2293
Willy Grimmke Wash. County DPW 746-2442 746-2441
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning 761-6410 761-6411
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Phinney Village of So. Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Joe Sullivan City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834
Steven Sweeney NYS Canal Corp. 471-5033 471-5035
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Others

Frank Bonafide NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0440 388-0430
Chris DeBolt Wash. County Planning 746-2290 746-2293
Robert Cherry NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0228 388-0430
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck LC/LGRPB 668-5773 668-5774
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Traver Village of Fort Edward 747-4023 747-2493
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Bill Lamy called the meeting to order at
1:33 pm.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –

A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the February 8th meeting minutes with the minor
corrections Mr. Valentine requested.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Joe Sullivan MOTION CARRIED

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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B. Personnel update
Kristina Hong announced that she will be leaving A/GFTC to attend law
school. A personnel search was conducted and effective August 4
th Sarah
Gebbie-Measeck, from the RPB, will be joining our staff.

Dave Rettig has left the NYSDOT Region 1 in for the Main Office of DOT. Bob
Hansen will be the acting Regional Planning and Program Manager.

Mark Galough will be leaving his position and Chris DeBolt, County Planner,
will be representing the Washington County Planning Department at A/GFTC
meetings.

Aaron requested a motion to endorse the hiring of Sarah Gebbie-Measeck.

MOVED BY: Willy Grimmke SECONDED BY: Mayor Phinney MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Transit
1. GGFT Update, Scott Sopczyk
There has been unprecedented interest in contacts regarding ridership
from local service, Warrensburg, North Creek, etc. Yesterday Aaron and
Mr. Sopczyk met with CDTA to look at ways to link certain operations.
Ridership for GGFT through May is up 7%. Since 2006 trolleys have seen
an increase of 27%. Despite ridership being up, fuel prices have
escalated. Transit systems around the entire country are faced with this
problem. GGFT took delivery of 4 new small buses and is in the process of
developing a specification to purchase 4 replacement large transit buses
for 2009. The larger buses are needed for service to Fort Edward, the
Mall, and upper Rte. 9. Mr. Valentine had questions regarding the evening
services. There is no evening service in the summer, but GGFT hopes to
start it again in September.

2. Transit Development Plan
The last adopted UPWP includes a task to prepare a Transit Development
Plan; the RFP is nearly complete. The Study will allow an outside
perspective to take a comprehensive look at the service routes,
frequencies and intervals.

Mr. Valentine asked how the AlterNet Rides program was working.
Aaron replied that membership to the car pooling service is growing.
Approximately 20 people are signed up. Glens Falls Hospital has
sponsored their own site. We will continue to push the AlterNet Rides
program. Mr. Sopczyk said that at CDTA, people have been inquiring
about service connections between Albany, Saratoga and Glens Falls.

3. 5310 / Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan, Aaron
This is the vehicle procurement program for transportation operations to
assist elderly and disabled clients. As part of the Plan, at the MPO level,
the recommendations we make will be given more consideration at the
State level than in the past. This MPO has 3 applications to review and a
subcommittee of the human services transportation working group has

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been assembled to do so. They will meet on July 29
th.

4. FTA passenger mile survey, Aaron
Kristina is working to complete the data collection before her last day with
A/GFTC.

B. Consultant Activities

1. Aviation Road Corridor study, Aaron
Wilbur Smith is drafting the final document and it will be presented to the
public at a work session to be held at the Ramada Inn on July 31 at 6:30.
The recommendations from that work session will be brought before the
Study Advisory Committee for review before a final document is approved.

2. GIS Services, Aaron
The selection committee comprised of Washington County DPW, Warren
County Planning, Saratoga County Planning, Washington County RPS/GIS
took part in the reviewing the three presentations. Two of those
presentations were very strong. The committee recommended that the
contract be offered to Fountains Spatial, Inc. based in Schenectady.

Aaron requested a motion to approve the hiring of Fountains Spatial

MOVED BY: Willy Grimmke SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

Mr. Grimmke pointed out that the selection process had nothing to do with
execution of the presentation; content was the issue.

3. Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan, Aaron
Out of 7 responses to our RFP, Creighton Manning Engineering was the
clear favorite once scores from various reviewing municipalities were
averaged. CME has already conducted the first introductory meeting with
the study advisory committee. The intent of this study is to come up with
a manageable, fiscally constrained short term solution that will take care
of the issues on the corridor and analyze bigger picture items that have
been floating around for a while (Exit 20 reconfiguration, 149 flyover and
the direct access to the Great Escape). CME has put together an
aggressive schedule. Hope to have this plan completed by December.
Service roads need to be reconsidered. Access management will play a
big role. Mr. LaMothe would like to be involved with this study. Mr.
LaMothe indicated that there were 27 curb cuts from Exit 20 to 149.

C. Staff Activities
1. Long Range Plan, Aaron
Draft chapters have been circulated for review. There are 3 draft chapters
left to complete: freight, bike/ped, finance. The environment chapter will
be revisited to incorporate energy independence

A brief discussion took place regarding travel trends and changes due to
increase in fuel prices. VMTs appear to be going down but not all data is
available.

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2. Local System Short Term Accident Reduction, Aaron
A project solicitation went out. A Road Safety Audit that we hosted
through a statewide contract with the MPO Association was performed at
the intersection of County Route 12 and Hatch Hill Road in Granville. Two
days were spent on how to conduct a safety audit and a team actually
went out to conduct a field visit and do a visual assessment. Washington
County has indicated that it will use the resulting RSA documentation as
support of an STAR-LH application. The regional solicitation that went out
offered 2 million dollars to the eight counties in Region 1. Mr. Bonafide
explained the intent of this program was to partner with the 8 counties
and find the best candidates and to look for a mechanism to determine
where there would be the most benefit based on data provided. Mr.
Bonafide encouraged everyone to go back to see if there are additional
safety candidates that have demonstrable (data-supported) accident
histories. A/GFTC will assist with this at municipal request.

5. TIP
A. Amendments, Aaron

1. NYS149 – use of toll credits
Mr. Bonafide- there is a 200 million dollar gap in State Dedicated Funds
and there is a need to find ways to move the program forward without the
money. One of the ways was to look at the State-funded projects and to
see if there were other opportunities to fund a project. NYSDOT looked at
toll roads and knew if the criteria the Feds set up was met, credits would
be the compensation. At some point the credits can be used as a match
for Federal Aid project. This results in funding changes from 80/20 split to
100% federal with the Toll Credits. A part of WAR 59 is still 100% SDF.
Local projects will not be affected by this. There will be a September 18
letting. After additional discussion,

A motion was made to approve the NYS149 amendment requeset.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED
Note: Mr. Sweeney abstained from voting.

2. NYS 197 over the Hudson River bridge rehabilitation
Earlier in the year, DOT approached the committee to request a change in
scope for the project and an amendment to change the bridge
replacement to rehabilitation. A/GFTC requested that DOT re-engage the
public in reviewing options. Do we want to preserve a bridge that is
functionally obsolete for the kind of traffic it carries? NYSDOT feels that
spending 4-5 million makes it safe and useful for 20 years. Given funding
shortages and declining structural conditions, NYSDOT generally cannot
entertain functional obsolescence as a selection criterion. A new bridge
would be over 10 million. Mayor Traver questioned the possibility of
waiting five years. Mr. Bonafide pointed out that the money for a
replacement bridge may not be available in five years or even ten years.

A motion was made to forward this to the Policy Comm. for consideration.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mark Galough MOTION CARRIED

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3. GGFT amendment, Scott Sopczyk
There are vehicles that were replaced several years ago, but because of
their condition they are not in service. Because of capacity, the fleet needs
to be increased and two new trolleys are required. Capital money will be
used in the upcoming grant application to FTA in late September.

A motion was made to approve the GGFT amendment

MOVED BY: Steven Sweeney SECONDED BY: Willy Grimmke MOTION CARRIED

B. Project Updates
1. Warren County, Lisa Penistan
Mr. Lamy introduced Kevin Hajos, who joined the Warren County DPW
staff on Monday.

Grist Mill Road
and Tannery, ROW acquisition and final design are in the
works; Middleton Bridge,
the will be a public meeting August 6 in
Warrensburg; Woolen Mill Bridge,
finalizing ROW acquisition; Alder Brook,
Beach Road, and Harrington Bridge all are in the design phase; Corinth
Road, the Town of Queensbury is in the process of acquiring ROW.

Mike Valentine asked about the status of the underground utilities. Mr.
Lamy told him that the underground utilities will be part of the project and
will be funded by either National Grid or the Town of Queensbury. Aaron
inquired about the Beach Road public outreach; a member of the LG Town
Planning Board had approached Aaron to indicate that he felt out of the
loop. Mr. Lamy said there had been several meetings and the department
would be happy to accept calls. Mr. Sopczyk requested a copy of the
scoping document as did Aaron. Mr. LaMothe reported that Mr. Tessier
came to the Planning Department with plans for the redevelopment of the
Gaslight Village property.

2. Washington County, Willy Grimmke
County Rte. 61 over the Battenkill,
have the state grant application;
hope to get the engineering going quickly since it was red flagged
again; County Rte. 42
awaiting approval of a change order; Clinton
and Division, there were some design revisions enhancements to
accommodate ongoing drainage issues. Mr. Brockway asked about Rte
42. Mr. Grimmke said weeds had been removed taking care of
visibility problems; once the grading is completed there shouldn’t be
an issue.
3. Town of Moreau, Preston Jenkins
Route 197 and Rte 9 Intersection,
no turn lane lights; this is a
problem; this was contracted out but nothing has been done.
Mr. Bonafide will find out what is happening with the situation. Mayor
Phinney added that next week the Village of So. Glens Falls will be
exercising the grant to resurface the Betar Byway.

4. NYSDOT, Frank Bonafide
149-Rte372
, are on track; Rte. 4, work is going on right now; Rte
4 phase 2, locally people are concerned about security and
scheduling.

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Mr. Galough noted that Washington County
has 1 million dollars
coming in for the rehab for the Battenkill Railroad.

Mr. Lamy had a question regarding the correct procedure for bridge
and highway projects and TIP money based on planning figures
that are outdated. As the bidding phase comes up, Mr. Lamy knows
things will be higher than noted in the TIP or engineer’s estimate
and wondered if there will be money to cover these shortages and
if the process to move a TIP amendment forward is quick enough
to keep the bids valid? The issue of rising costs has been
problematic for years, but Aaron asserted that A/GFTC’s TIP
amendment processes are about as responsive as they can be.

5. Next meeting and adjourn – Next meeting will take place September 17
th
at 1:30. The meeting adjourned at 3:10.