MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC May 19, 2009
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Brian Brockway Town of Fort Edward 747-5501 746-1071
Chris DeBolt Wash. County Planning 746-2290 746-2293
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls 747-5426 747-5597
Willy Grimmke Wash. County DPW 746-2442 746-2441
Bob Hansen NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0456 388-0430
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
Jim Lindsay Town of Kingsbury 747-2188 747-9115
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Joe Sullivan City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834
Steven Sweeney NYS Canal Corp. 471-5033 471-5035
Others

Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0439 388-0430
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Vice Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting
to order at 1:03 pm.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –

A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the January 5
th meeting minutes

MOVED BY: Joe Sullivan SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

B. NYSDEC nonattainment designation recommendation, Aaron:
Warren and Washington County have been proposed for ozone nonattainment
designation based upon a monitor reading located in Stillwater. Aaron drafted
technical arguments to oppose this recommendation especially since we have an
almost rural population density. The Census data being used to designate
nonattainment areas also appears to be misapplied.

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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The designation recommendation goes into effect next year and until then Corinth
Road and the Quaker Road projects that had once been proposed are exempt.
Washington County passed a resolution opposing the recommendation and sent it to
the congressional delegation. Warren County indicated they would follow the path
Washington County has taken and a motion was made to present to the Policy
Committee for approval the opposition of the NYSDEC nonattainment designation
recommendation.

MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Chris DeBolt MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Transit
1. GGFT Update, Scott Sopczyk
Mr. Sopczyk received a call from the FTA Regional Office with a grant
number for a stimulus project so funds can start to be obligated. There is a
meeting tonight to discuss the physical relocation of the GGFT terminal to a
nearby location on Ridge St just south of the existing terminal.
2. Transit Development Plan, Scott Sopczyk
Very close to developing and producing a draft recommendation.
Conceptually what we want to accomplish is the elimination or reduction of
unproductive feeder routes and increase the service on Glen St., Corinth
Rd., So. Glens Falls, Bay Rd., Ft. Edward runs. The hope is to increase
service without increased cost. There has been reasonable public input and
the TDP is moving along.
3. CDTA/GGFT service connection (NX), Nothing new on this
4. 5316/5317 solicitation, Aaron
The application deadline for FTA for program 521/5317 was last Thursday.
GGFT submitted an application for $43K for sustaining some of the evening
services that had been utilizing another funding source that has since run
out. Also some of the money will go towards the coordination service
initiative on Bay Road. A motion was made to endorse GGFT’s application.

MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Jeff Tennyson MOTION CARRIED

5. Ridesharing software demonstration – Sarah:
For Earth Day a new web site was launched called iPoolNorth.org and it
coordinates with the Capital District car pooling web site, iPool2. The
objective of this site is to allow people interested in ridesharing to log into
the site and find a commute partner. It is very easy to use and to date 37
users have signed up and the monthly report given to A/GFTC indicates the
site is averaging one match per search. Seven users are in
communication. Hopefully the planned advertising blitz will result in more
users/matches. Mr. Sopczyk asked if this would be useful for patients
getting to medical office visits.

B. Consultant / Staff Activities

1.
GIS Services, Aaron
Fountains Spatial, the consultant we hired, is updating and improving our
in-house data system, developing desktop data tracker, getting some
handheld data collection to repeat the FTA passenger survey and to
establish a web based application we can use to share data with the public.

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Hope to have three web google maps available on our web site. One will
deal with data, one will deal with conditions (bridges, pavement), one will
deal with TIP projects.

Mr. Hansen asked what the background for the database was – Aaron said
it was satellite imagery. We were encouraged by our consultant to go with
Google Maps because it is an interface that many web users are familiar
with. Ms. Mariotti expressed her concerns with the compatibility of this
program with public and private use.

2. Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan, Aaron
A committee meeting is scheduled for May 22
nd at 10 am at the Warren
County Municipal Center, Room 6-103 to review the draft final report
prepared by Creighton Manning Engineering. Some recommendations:
Access management; back access off of Exit 20 north bound; interchange
modification; improvements with signalized intersections. After the
meeting on the 22nd a third public meeting will be held to present the
findings of the study.

3. Abe Wing / Big Cross Pedestrian Circulation Assessments, Aaron
These projects were selected through our on-call consulting services
agreement with Resource Systems Group, Inc. A request for letter of
interest was sent to our consultants and RSG had the most appealing
approach. They have a certified Safe Routes to School trainer on their
staff and will engage the public during a regularly scheduled school
meeting. Abe Wing had an interest in having some of the pedestrian
circulation issues reviewed (drop off zones, speed, bike facilities, traffic
signal operations. Data collection will be done at Abe Wing on May 21st.
Big Cross also expressed an interest in using our on-call engineering
consultant. The local match previously needed for these types of projects
has been waived.

5. TIP
A. Amendments and Modifications (handout), Aaron
DOT requested that we list two enhancement projects: West Brook
Conservation Initiative and Dix Bridge Rehabilitation. Adding these requires
no committee action.

ARRA (Stimulus) Projects
A new request is the Batten Kill RR over NYS 372 (picture handout-illustrates
a clearance issue with the structure); Mr. Hansen pointed out that the
Governor passed these stimulus projects down to the Regional Office for
consideration only. The projects need to be ready to go. Mr. Grimmke
explained how he came up with the cost for this project and after some
discussion it was decided to increase the cost to $3M. The motion was made to
present to the Policy Committee this project for addition to the TIP after a 30
day comment period is completed. Doing so does not guarantee that this
project will receive ARRA funding.

MOVED BY: Joe Sullivan SECONDED BY: Scott Sopczyk MOTION CARRIED

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1R Paving Projects were previously approved and require no formal
amendment. Mr. Hansen distributed a handout.

Safety Projects: County Rte. 12, Granville was added to the TIP via
administrative modification, having been derived from a regional setaside.

Spier Falls Road/Rte. 9
Mr. Hansen said that the main office has been pushing for the use of SHIP
funds. Everyone appears to be having difficulty finding candidates for this
funding source. There are safety needs out there but no clear local candidates
other than County Route 12 project (noted above)have emerged. This project
includes a state to federal shift of funding, so this needs a public comment
period, Policy Committee approval and an amendment.

A motion was made to release the proposed Spier Falls Road/Route 9 Project
amendment for public comment.

MOVED BY: Mike Fiorillo SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

NYSDOT Bridge 5-7 Repairs letter was distributed and a motion was made to
release the proposed amendment for public comment.

MOVED BY: Scott Sopczyk SECONDED BY: Mike Fiorillo MOTION CARRIED

B. Project Updates, It was proposed to forego project updates, but

1. Warren County, Jeff Tennyson did want to report the following to the
Committee: There are almost weekly meetings now with the Town of
Queensbury regarding Corinth Road; the utility issues are still being worked
out; have concerns about being ready for the September deadline for funding;
should know by July if the September deadline will be met.

6. Other Items
– Annual MPO Conference June 4-5, Aaron relayed the information about the
conference to the Committee
– Mr. Sopczyk announced there would be a NYPTA meeting at the Queensbury
Hotel June 10-12.

7. Next meeting and adjourn, the next meeting TBA; adjournment took place at
2:40 pm

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Attendance:
Members
:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Jack Diamond, Mayor, City of Glens Falls
Keith Donohue, Mayor, Village of So. Glens Falls
Preston Jenkins, Supervisor, Town of Moreau
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW (rep. F. Monroe)
James Lindsay, Supervisor, Town of Kingsbury
Brian Rowback, Regional Director, NYSDOT Region 1
Daniel Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Bill Rinaldi)
Louis Tessier, Supervisor, Town of Lake George
JoAnn Trinkle, Chairman, Washington County Board of Supervisors
Others
:
Brian Brockway, Town of Fort Edward (rep. M. Suprenant)
Tom Donohue, City of Glens Falls
Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Dan Hall, City of Glens Falls
Robert Hansen, NYSDOT Region 1
Frank Komoroske, NYSDOT
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County Planning Board

A/GFTC Staff:

Monika Bulman, Administrative Assistant
Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck, Transportation Planner

I. Welcome & Introductions
1. Introductory remarks- Chairman JoAnn Trinkle called the meeting to order
at 1:35 PM
II. Visitors Issues – None
Administration
III. Approval of March 12, 2008 minutes

Motion was made to approve the March 12, 2008 minutes

MOVED BY : James Lindsay SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. Transit
A. GGFT Report-(handout) Scott Sopczyk – Mr. Sopczyk reviewed
the capital projects as outlined in the handout. GGFT intends to
make full use of the anticipated ARRA funds expected to be
allocated to public transit capital improvements in the Glens Falls
area. This will go towards projects that funds were not available
Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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for previously including replacement for an in-ground vehicle lift
in the garage, rehab and slight relocation of the Ridge Street
terminal, and the purchase of a hybrid bus.

B. Transit Development Plan (TDP), GGFT has been working with
A/GFTC and a consultant to prepare a new Transportation
Development Plan. Existing service structure is being examined
and a set of recommendations for future service levels will be
developed. A public Open House is scheduled March 9
th so the
draft recommendations will be reviewed. Final recommendations
are expected this summer.

2008 Transit ridership was the highest in the history of the
system which began operation in 1984. Mr. Hansen asked Mr.
Sopczyk if he was still working with CDTA on the NX runs. Mr.
Sopczyk said discussion is still taking place and a unified fare
medium is under consideration. Discussion also took place
regarding potential services generated by Luther Forest.

2. Consultant Projects
A. Aviation Road Corridor Study-Approval, Aaron – The study is
complete and has resulted in a good product. The Study has been
approved by the Town of Queensbury. The core recommendations
yield about 3.4 million dollars worth of potential improvements.

A motion was made to adopt the Study.

MOVED BY: Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mayor Donohue MOTION CARRIED

Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan-Aaron, Expecting a draft of the
final plan within a month. There are not many easy solutions
along this corridor and interchange options are limited. Rte 9 is
the core problem.

B. GIS Services, Aaron-Our consultant, Fountains Spatial, has
delivered to us an updated data system including a desktop map
management tool bar for us. Currently they are working on a web
application that will improve our ability to visualize our data, show
our TIP and planning projects, etc. They are also working on a
transit data ridership collection tool. Hope to complete all of these
services by late spring.

3. 2009 UPWP Update Approval, (handouts) Aaron – There are a few active
consultant projects that will carry over into this UPWP. New in the work
program are the offering of road safety audits and training for municipal
staff (planning and zoning boards). The training will kick off April 14 with
the offering of access management training session. This is an ITE web
session so it is eligible for professional development hours.
The on-call engineering services are still being offered and do not require
a local match. The cap is $10K. Also planned is an update to the bike/ped
plan. The overall program is smaller this year due to unreleased carryover
and the threat of rescission.

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A motion was moved to approve the administrative 2008 UPWP
Update pending any public comments received prior to March 11.

MOVED BY: Dan Stec SECONDED BY: James Lindsay MOTION CARRIED

4. Long Range Plan, Aaron-Drafts of all the chapters are complete. Still
working on the financial chapter. Once the financial element is complete,
the draft LRP will be submitted to the TAC for its approval and subsequent
public comment and review.

V. Transportation Improvement Program(TIP)
1. 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Stimulus Program (handout), Brian Rowback gave a powerpoint
presentation highlighting the information on the handout. The NY
share for high and bridges under the bill is estimated to be $1.120
billion, the NY share for transit $1.245 billion. Rail discretionary is
one of the big surprises in this bill and covers high speed rail
under the discretionary program, but we still do not know how the
funds may be applied. Aviation also received discretionary grants.
For statewide funds there are provisions that 50% must be
obligated within 120 days of apportionment. For any state $ with
obligated balances, the funds will be redistributed to other states.
There is a locally administered federal aid project manual
available. Mr. Rowback pointed out that Mary Anne Mariotti is the
key person to contact for all of A/GFTC projects, issues and
concerns as it relates to DOT or federal aid.
Mr. Rowback commented that our MPO is unique in that most of
our projects are local projects. Even with the stimulus package
there is still a much larger need that DOT sees growing (bridges
and pavements). Region 1’s strategy will be to prevent all of this
aging infrastructure from requiring major work simulataneously.
Robert Hansen -There are some set-asides that are required to be
done for rural areas and small urban areas. Bay Street in Glens
Falls would help to satisfy our small urban requirement and the
bridge projects in Washington and Warren Counties will help to
satisfy the rural requirements.
B. Stimulus Amendment – Aaron – The material faxed out on Friday
is different than what is in front of you (handout). Aaron
summarized the projects. The bridge projects for Warren County
did not include the Woolenmill Bridge project in today’s handout
because of a fear of not meeting the deadline date due to a lack of
utility agreements to date. Also the list of Transit projects is
different than what was faxed out. Aaron noted that FHWA will
not require a TIP amendment in order to make transfers of
existing TIP projects eligible for receipt of stimulus funds.
Additional discussion included: front loading TIPs; adding new
projects to the STIP as illustrative which means they do not
appear in the fiscal totals and a possible round two/highway act.

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A motion was made to approve the Stimulus TIP Amendment

MOVED BY: Mayor Diamond SECONDED BY: Dan Stec MOTION CARRIED

C. Adjustment of TIP change procedures (handout), Aaron- Not too
different from the previously approved amendment procedure in
2000. It identifies any TIP deletion or addition as requiring a TIP
amendment. Anything that is deemed to be a TIP amendment
requires public comment. The handout is self-explanatory. Bob
Hansen mentioned that the scope and cost changes on our
procedures are different than CDTC.

A motion was made to approve the TIP change procedures

MOVED BY: Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: James Lindsay MOTION CARRIED

D. Change in TIP schedule, Aaron-The stimulus program has caused
uncertainty. The MPO directors, after a discussion, decided to
delay TIP cycles for 6 months. DOT suggested delaying it for a
year. To keep the TIP current we just need to take more action by
TIP amendment or administrative modifications.

2. Recent developments or action items for ongoing federal aid projects
A. New York State Department of Transportation, Brian
Rowback/Robert Hansen-Marchiselli money may be reassigned; the
CHIPS program is up in the air.

B. Warren County DPW, Bill Lamy –
-The Corinth Road/ Exit 18, Have to meet a September deadline to
have access to the funds needed. Last ROW of being acquired;
Town is finishing up the underground utility design; Supervisor
Stec is very confident the September deadline will be met.
-The two bridges that were included in the stimulus amendment
are ready to go.
Mr. Hansen asked if Mr. Lamy had an updated estimate for Corinth
road. Mr. Hansen would like to go through the estimate to
determine if everything is eligible and that there is enough to pay
for it.

C. Washington County, Willy Grimmke –
-As per the amendment the railroad brides in the Village of
Whitehall are stimulated. Working with DOT and A/GFTC to address
CR 12 and Lower Turnpike over the Mettawee.
D. Saratoga/Town of Moreau, Preston Jenkins-nothing to report

Mr. Rowback- prior to the stimulus package which includes a 3%
setaside for enhancement projects, an announcement was going to
be made as to what projects were selected. Now things have to be
reevaluated.

E. City of Glens Falls, Mayor Diamond
Is happy the Bay Street project is back on the TIP; the city will be
doing the infrastructure subsurface improvements needed; moving
along with some issues on South Street

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F. Town of Queensbury, Dan Stec
Thanked A/GFTC for help with the studies on Aviation Rd. and Exit
20; electrical utility work on Corinth Road is in final design;
easement issues should be resolved soon; Queensbury is
committed to the Corinth Road project and will meet the deadline.

VI. Revised meeting schedule, Aaron-previously a meeting schedule was
distributed but it is difficult to adhere to with meeting conflicts. Tentatively a
TAC meeting is planned for May and a Policy Committee meeting for June.

VII. Next meeting and adjourn
Next meeting is anticipated in June.
A motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 3:15

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC July 16, 2008
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Brian Brockway Town of Fort Edward 747-5501 746-1071
Michael Fiorillo Village of Fort Edward 747-5426 747-5597
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290 746-2293
Willy Grimmke Wash. County DPW 746-2442 746-2441
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning 761-6410 761-6411
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Phinney Village of So. Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Joe Sullivan City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834
Steven Sweeney NYS Canal Corp. 471-5033 471-5035
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Others

Frank Bonafide NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0440 388-0430
Chris DeBolt Wash. County Planning 746-2290 746-2293
Robert Cherry NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0228 388-0430
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck LC/LGRPB 668-5773 668-5774
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Traver Village of Fort Edward 747-4023 747-2493
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Bill Lamy called the meeting to order at
1:33 pm.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –

A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the February 8th meeting minutes with the minor
corrections Mr. Valentine requested.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Joe Sullivan MOTION CARRIED

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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B. Personnel update
Kristina Hong announced that she will be leaving A/GFTC to attend law
school. A personnel search was conducted and effective August 4
th Sarah
Gebbie-Measeck, from the RPB, will be joining our staff.

Dave Rettig has left the NYSDOT Region 1 in for the Main Office of DOT. Bob
Hansen will be the acting Regional Planning and Program Manager.

Mark Galough will be leaving his position and Chris DeBolt, County Planner,
will be representing the Washington County Planning Department at A/GFTC
meetings.

Aaron requested a motion to endorse the hiring of Sarah Gebbie-Measeck.

MOVED BY: Willy Grimmke SECONDED BY: Mayor Phinney MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Transit
1. GGFT Update, Scott Sopczyk
There has been unprecedented interest in contacts regarding ridership
from local service, Warrensburg, North Creek, etc. Yesterday Aaron and
Mr. Sopczyk met with CDTA to look at ways to link certain operations.
Ridership for GGFT through May is up 7%. Since 2006 trolleys have seen
an increase of 27%. Despite ridership being up, fuel prices have
escalated. Transit systems around the entire country are faced with this
problem. GGFT took delivery of 4 new small buses and is in the process of
developing a specification to purchase 4 replacement large transit buses
for 2009. The larger buses are needed for service to Fort Edward, the
Mall, and upper Rte. 9. Mr. Valentine had questions regarding the evening
services. There is no evening service in the summer, but GGFT hopes to
start it again in September.

2. Transit Development Plan
The last adopted UPWP includes a task to prepare a Transit Development
Plan; the RFP is nearly complete. The Study will allow an outside
perspective to take a comprehensive look at the service routes,
frequencies and intervals.

Mr. Valentine asked how the AlterNet Rides program was working.
Aaron replied that membership to the car pooling service is growing.
Approximately 20 people are signed up. Glens Falls Hospital has
sponsored their own site. We will continue to push the AlterNet Rides
program. Mr. Sopczyk said that at CDTA, people have been inquiring
about service connections between Albany, Saratoga and Glens Falls.

3. 5310 / Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan, Aaron
This is the vehicle procurement program for transportation operations to
assist elderly and disabled clients. As part of the Plan, at the MPO level,
the recommendations we make will be given more consideration at the
State level than in the past. This MPO has 3 applications to review and a
subcommittee of the human services transportation working group has

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been assembled to do so. They will meet on July 29
th.

4. FTA passenger mile survey, Aaron
Kristina is working to complete the data collection before her last day with
A/GFTC.

B. Consultant Activities

1. Aviation Road Corridor study, Aaron
Wilbur Smith is drafting the final document and it will be presented to the
public at a work session to be held at the Ramada Inn on July 31 at 6:30.
The recommendations from that work session will be brought before the
Study Advisory Committee for review before a final document is approved.

2. GIS Services, Aaron
The selection committee comprised of Washington County DPW, Warren
County Planning, Saratoga County Planning, Washington County RPS/GIS
took part in the reviewing the three presentations. Two of those
presentations were very strong. The committee recommended that the
contract be offered to Fountains Spatial, Inc. based in Schenectady.

Aaron requested a motion to approve the hiring of Fountains Spatial

MOVED BY: Willy Grimmke SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

Mr. Grimmke pointed out that the selection process had nothing to do with
execution of the presentation; content was the issue.

3. Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan, Aaron
Out of 7 responses to our RFP, Creighton Manning Engineering was the
clear favorite once scores from various reviewing municipalities were
averaged. CME has already conducted the first introductory meeting with
the study advisory committee. The intent of this study is to come up with
a manageable, fiscally constrained short term solution that will take care
of the issues on the corridor and analyze bigger picture items that have
been floating around for a while (Exit 20 reconfiguration, 149 flyover and
the direct access to the Great Escape). CME has put together an
aggressive schedule. Hope to have this plan completed by December.
Service roads need to be reconsidered. Access management will play a
big role. Mr. LaMothe would like to be involved with this study. Mr.
LaMothe indicated that there were 27 curb cuts from Exit 20 to 149.

C. Staff Activities
1. Long Range Plan, Aaron
Draft chapters have been circulated for review. There are 3 draft chapters
left to complete: freight, bike/ped, finance. The environment chapter will
be revisited to incorporate energy independence

A brief discussion took place regarding travel trends and changes due to
increase in fuel prices. VMTs appear to be going down but not all data is
available.

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2. Local System Short Term Accident Reduction, Aaron
A project solicitation went out. A Road Safety Audit that we hosted
through a statewide contract with the MPO Association was performed at
the intersection of County Route 12 and Hatch Hill Road in Granville. Two
days were spent on how to conduct a safety audit and a team actually
went out to conduct a field visit and do a visual assessment. Washington
County has indicated that it will use the resulting RSA documentation as
support of an STAR-LH application. The regional solicitation that went out
offered 2 million dollars to the eight counties in Region 1. Mr. Bonafide
explained the intent of this program was to partner with the 8 counties
and find the best candidates and to look for a mechanism to determine
where there would be the most benefit based on data provided. Mr.
Bonafide encouraged everyone to go back to see if there are additional
safety candidates that have demonstrable (data-supported) accident
histories. A/GFTC will assist with this at municipal request.

5. TIP
A. Amendments, Aaron

1. NYS149 – use of toll credits
Mr. Bonafide- there is a 200 million dollar gap in State Dedicated Funds
and there is a need to find ways to move the program forward without the
money. One of the ways was to look at the State-funded projects and to
see if there were other opportunities to fund a project. NYSDOT looked at
toll roads and knew if the criteria the Feds set up was met, credits would
be the compensation. At some point the credits can be used as a match
for Federal Aid project. This results in funding changes from 80/20 split to
100% federal with the Toll Credits. A part of WAR 59 is still 100% SDF.
Local projects will not be affected by this. There will be a September 18
letting. After additional discussion,

A motion was made to approve the NYS149 amendment requeset.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED
Note: Mr. Sweeney abstained from voting.

2. NYS 197 over the Hudson River bridge rehabilitation
Earlier in the year, DOT approached the committee to request a change in
scope for the project and an amendment to change the bridge
replacement to rehabilitation. A/GFTC requested that DOT re-engage the
public in reviewing options. Do we want to preserve a bridge that is
functionally obsolete for the kind of traffic it carries? NYSDOT feels that
spending 4-5 million makes it safe and useful for 20 years. Given funding
shortages and declining structural conditions, NYSDOT generally cannot
entertain functional obsolescence as a selection criterion. A new bridge
would be over 10 million. Mayor Traver questioned the possibility of
waiting five years. Mr. Bonafide pointed out that the money for a
replacement bridge may not be available in five years or even ten years.

A motion was made to forward this to the Policy Comm. for consideration.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mark Galough MOTION CARRIED

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3. GGFT amendment, Scott Sopczyk
There are vehicles that were replaced several years ago, but because of
their condition they are not in service. Because of capacity, the fleet needs
to be increased and two new trolleys are required. Capital money will be
used in the upcoming grant application to FTA in late September.

A motion was made to approve the GGFT amendment

MOVED BY: Steven Sweeney SECONDED BY: Willy Grimmke MOTION CARRIED

B. Project Updates
1. Warren County, Lisa Penistan
Mr. Lamy introduced Kevin Hajos, who joined the Warren County DPW
staff on Monday.

Grist Mill Road
and Tannery, ROW acquisition and final design are in the
works; Middleton Bridge,
the will be a public meeting August 6 in
Warrensburg; Woolen Mill Bridge,
finalizing ROW acquisition; Alder Brook,
Beach Road, and Harrington Bridge all are in the design phase; Corinth
Road, the Town of Queensbury is in the process of acquiring ROW.

Mike Valentine asked about the status of the underground utilities. Mr.
Lamy told him that the underground utilities will be part of the project and
will be funded by either National Grid or the Town of Queensbury. Aaron
inquired about the Beach Road public outreach; a member of the LG Town
Planning Board had approached Aaron to indicate that he felt out of the
loop. Mr. Lamy said there had been several meetings and the department
would be happy to accept calls. Mr. Sopczyk requested a copy of the
scoping document as did Aaron. Mr. LaMothe reported that Mr. Tessier
came to the Planning Department with plans for the redevelopment of the
Gaslight Village property.

2. Washington County, Willy Grimmke
County Rte. 61 over the Battenkill,
have the state grant application;
hope to get the engineering going quickly since it was red flagged
again; County Rte. 42
awaiting approval of a change order; Clinton
and Division, there were some design revisions enhancements to
accommodate ongoing drainage issues. Mr. Brockway asked about Rte
42. Mr. Grimmke said weeds had been removed taking care of
visibility problems; once the grading is completed there shouldn’t be
an issue.
3. Town of Moreau, Preston Jenkins
Route 197 and Rte 9 Intersection,
no turn lane lights; this is a
problem; this was contracted out but nothing has been done.
Mr. Bonafide will find out what is happening with the situation. Mayor
Phinney added that next week the Village of So. Glens Falls will be
exercising the grant to resurface the Betar Byway.

4. NYSDOT, Frank Bonafide
149-Rte372
, are on track; Rte. 4, work is going on right now; Rte
4 phase 2, locally people are concerned about security and
scheduling.

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Mr. Galough noted that Washington County
has 1 million dollars
coming in for the rehab for the Battenkill Railroad.

Mr. Lamy had a question regarding the correct procedure for bridge
and highway projects and TIP money based on planning figures
that are outdated. As the bidding phase comes up, Mr. Lamy knows
things will be higher than noted in the TIP or engineer’s estimate
and wondered if there will be money to cover these shortages and
if the process to move a TIP amendment forward is quick enough
to keep the bids valid? The issue of rising costs has been
problematic for years, but Aaron asserted that A/GFTC’s TIP
amendment processes are about as responsive as they can be.

5. Next meeting and adjourn – Next meeting will take place September 17
th
at 1:30. The meeting adjourned at 3:10.

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, March 12, 2008 (draft)

Attendance:
Members
:
Brian Rowback, Regional Director, NYSDOT Region 1
Robert Shay, Supervisor, Town of White Creek
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Bill Rinaldi)
JoAnn Trinkle, Chairman, Washington County Board of Supervisors
Others
:
Brian Brockway, Town of Fort Edward (rep. M. Suprenant)
Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW (rep. F. Monroe)
Gina LeClair, Deputy Supervisor, Town of Moreau
Dave Rettig, RPPM, NYSDOT- Region 1
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County Planning Board

A/GFTC Staff:

Monika Bulman, Administrative Assistant
Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Kristina Hong, Transportation Analyst

I. Welcome & Introductions
1. Introductory remarks- Chairman JoAnn Trinkle called the meeting to order
at 1:37 PM and, on recommendation of staff, declared a quorum of
affected parties.
II. Visitors Issues – None
III. Administration
1. Approval of Officers 2008-2010 (handout)
Aaron explained that the Chairmanship of each committee alternates every
two years between Warren and Washington Counties. 2008 is the first
year of a new two-year cycle.

Motion was made to approve officers for the Policy Committee: JoAnn
Trinkle, Chairman; Dan Stec, Vice Chairman; and Brian Rowback, Secretary;
for the Technical Advisory Committee: Bill Lamy, Chairman; Willy
Grimmke, Vice Chairman

MOVED BY : Bob Shay SECONDED BY: Brian Brockway MOTION CARRIED

Mr. Valentine asked if the Chairmanship would every end up in Saratoga
County. Aaron answered that there was nothing to preclude that should there
be interest expressed by Saratoga County – based representation.

2. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

Motion was made to approve the December 18, 2007 minutes

MOVED BY : Bob Shay SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED
Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. Transit
A. GGFT Report-Scott Sopczyk – Several weeks ago Betty Little’s
office contacted GGFT regarding the potential of GGFT providing
transportation services to southern Washington County. It was
requested that Scott put together an outline of discussion topics
and hold a meeting for interested parties. Scott also wanted to
express his thanks to NYSDOT for accommodating the installation
of two new passenger shelters as part of the repaving project on
Route 9.

B. Human Services Transportation Plan, Aaron- Seeking approval
of this plan contingent on any comments received before the close
of the public comment period on March 20. The plan is intended to
satisfy a federal requirement that we prepare a locally developed
plan addressing the issues for furthering coordinated human
transportation in our area. A handout portion of the plan, (Vision,
Actions and Recommendations), was distributed to the committee
for discussion. Aaron noted that recently received NYSDOT Region
1 comments were to be incorporated.

A motion was made to approve the Plan with comments included

MOVED BY : Bill Lamy SECONDED BY: Bob Shay MOTION CARRIED

2. Consultant Projects, Aaron
A. Access Management Study, Aaron – Seeking approval today of
this study. Following the last TAC meeting, members were allowed
additional time to review the document and submit comments.
The TAC recommended the AMS to the Policy Committee for
approval. Since we don’t have the ability to reopen the technical
analyses, comments received from NYSDOT R1 regarding certain
driveway closures on certain parcels in the Study will be noted
within the document that the analysis did not take certain elements
into account and that there are other considerations besides
turning movements within an access change.

A motion was made to approve the Study

MOVED BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Brian Brockway MOTION CARRIED

The Study will be delivered to municipalities. Part of the Study product was
the development of an educational slideshow. Mr. Valentine requested a
copy be given to CDTC.

B. Aviation Road Corridor Study, Aaron – At the Town’s request we
have expanded the scope of the study for the consultant to take a
more in-depth look at three individual roundabouts that had been
emerging through the planning process as being beneficial to the
corridor. The scope was expanded for a cost of $14,500.

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C. On-call engineering services, Aaron – wanted to remind
everyone that we do have 3 contracts available with consulting
engineering firms with the express purpose of assisting
municipalities in the form of transportation engineering services.
These were set up to provide municipalities with services for which
we do not have staff expertise. The contracts are capped at $10K
and a local match of 20% is required. Mr. Rettig suggested that
this service be brought more to the attention of our municipalities.
Mr. Rowback pointed out that when we do these types of studies
on state highways, the municipality stands to benefit not only from
consulting services but from a working partnership with DOT.

D. Exit 20 RFP, Aaron – the RFPs for Exit 20 and GIS Services
should go out within the end of the week. Hope to have
consultants on board for the Exit 20 study to allow work to begin
during the summer peak season. Mr. Rowback and his department
will be paying particular attention to the Exit 20 study.
Replacement of aging parking infrastructure at the Outlets could
factor into a recommended improvement package.

3. 2008 UPWP Update Approval, Aaron – This is an administrative update to
revisit the finances and list progress we made on the existing 2007-2009
program. This update was mailed to our committee members for review.

A motion was moved to approve the administrative 2008 UPWP
Update

MOVED BY: Bill Lamy SECONDED BY: Brian Brockway MOTION CARRIED

4. Long Range Plan, Aaron – At previous meetings a list was circulated for
members to note if they wished to review draft LRP chapters as they were
completed. The drafts would be sent to those people. Drafts of the
Highway and Environmental chapters are nearing completion. Dave Rettig
suggested coming up with a timeline so we meet the October
deadline. Aaron affirmed that it was his understanding that conformity
analysis does not need to be redone providing that the horizon year 2030
is consistent with A/GFTC and CDTC.

5. Review of open funding opportunities, Aaron – This is a reminder to
everyone that the Short-Term Accident Reduction Program for local
highways is available. Applications should be received by April 1
st. In
response to a question from the Town of Moreau regarding the
intersection of US 9 and NYS 197, it was clarified that we are not
considering intersections with state highways as part of this program.
This funding is for local, town, village and county highways.
We do not know how much of the regional allocation of $2.0M will be
awarded to A/GFTC-area projects but we hope to select the best projects
for $400K or under that show a small financial investment coupled with a
substantial safety benefit. We will assist applicants with obtaining
accident data upon request. Mr. Rowback said that NYSDOT was not
choosing to not address safety locations on its system through this
program but rather that NYSDOT has its own safety selection process for
its system and this local funding source was established to address
accident histories on locally-owned roadways that often display a
disproportionately high crash history. Furthermore he noted that the

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Department did wish to be informed by local officials of suspected accident
problems on the State system.

V. Transportation Improvement Program(TIP)
1. 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Review of TIP actions Dec 07 to Mar 08, Aaron – Two TIP actions
taken since the last Policy Committee meeting included approving
an additional $1 million for the Rt. 149 job in the Town of
Queensbury and reintroduced County 61 Buffum’s Bridge back
into the program where it belongs.

B. Adjustment of TIP change procedure, Aaron – This is on the
agenda as it pertains to SAFETEALU and its provisions for public
notification and public participation in regards to TIP changes. Any
major amendment needs a 30 public comment period. We are
more or less doing this since any major amendment brought
before the Policy Committee goes before the TAC first, but this will
be formally revised to satisfy the federal organizations.

2. Recent developments or action items for ongoing federal aid projects
A. New York State Department of Transportation, Dave Rettig –
The public meeting for the 197 bridge over the Hudson has not
been held and will probably take place in April. A/GFTC
consideration for changing the scope of the project in the TIP from
a replacement to a rehab has been requested. Since the last Policy
Committee meeting, the department held a transportation forum
on 20-year transportation needs. The existing funding mechanism
rewards fuel consumption and this seems somewhat
counterproductive and places NYS at a disadvantage. Over 20
years $37 billion are set aside for transportation needs. This will
only allow us to keep our system in a little better shape.
Mr. Rettig is trying to set up a meeting with the public and local
officials similar to one that was recently held in the Capital District.
All the elected officials will be invited so they can see what has
been accomplished and what is planned for the area.

B. Warren County DPW, Bill Lamy –
-The Corinth Road/ Exit 18 Corridor Project is currently in ROW
acquisition. Next Wednesday a public meeting on the eminent
domain procedures law will be held. Options for both above ground
power and buried power will be presented. The financial details are
still being worked out.
-The Beach Road Corridor Project, a completed scoping document
has been received and is under review.
-Bridge Projects, they are in various stages of planning.
Stony Creek bridges questions still not answered.
Dave Rettig noted that DOT has a project coming up For Route 9
resurfacing that will require coordination with construction of Beach
Road. The environmental issue of West Brook still needs to be
resolved.

C. Washington County, Willy Grimmke –
– Rte. 42 is under construction. There have been issues with ROW
with one property owner.

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-Whitehall Bridges over the railroad – have ADP under review as
well as comments from the Village. There has been communication
regarding drainage. There is an outstanding issue that the
agreement has to be clear that this is not the county’s bridge.
Washington County DPW is administering the project for the
benefit of the Village. The understanding with the railroad is that
they will be paying non-state, non-federal share. To date Mr.
Grimmke has no signed agreement stating that that is the case and
without that, the County will not advance the project. When it is
time to go to bid, the railroad’s budgeted share must be paid.
-County Rte. 61 is now HBRR-eligible; waiting for a revised
proposal from consultant
-County Rte. 113 over the Battenkill and County 41 reconstruction,
consultant selection is starting
-County 68, should have permission to advertise soon

D. Saratoga/Town of Moreau, Gina LeClair – question re:9/197 was
raised earlier in meeting.

E. City of Glens Falls – no representation

F. Town of Queensbury – no representation

Other Items:

Availability of the enhancement program, Aaron
Deadline for enhancement projects is June 27. Workshops will be held here in April.
Brief discussion on Rogers Island project and the how the selection process is
determined. Mr. Rettig will check on whether Marcheselli funds are available.

Also, question regarding 372 bridge in Greenwich was addressed to Mr. Rettig.
There will be a Village election in several weeks so the meeting should be postponed
until then.

Mr. Brockway let everyone know that the Rte 4 project will start up again and that
there will be detours starting on the 17
th.

VI. Next meeting and adjourn
Next meeting is anticipated in June.
A motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 2:57.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC February 8, 2008
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning 761-6410 761-6411
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Joe Sullivan City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Walter Young LC/LGRPB 668-5773 668-5774
Others

Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Bill Lamy called the meeting to order at
10:03.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –

A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the November 13th meeting minutes.

MOVED BY: Joe Sullivan SECONDED BY: Wayne LaMothe MOTION CARRIED

B. Air quality conformity resolution (handout), Aaron
This new resolution is required based on the fact that CDTC approved its
2030 long range plan. A/GFTC and CDTC are in the same air quality
non-attainment area and both are required to demonstrate conformity.
The plan has been put out for public comment. None were received. As no
non-exempt projects are planned for the Town of Moreau, we can continue to
state that we are in compliance with air quality conformity.

A motion was made to approve the resolution

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Joe Sullivan MOTION CARRIED

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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February 8, 2008
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C. Annual List of Obligated Projects (handout), Aaron
This is a re-emphasized federal requirement from SAFETEA designed to
improve the transparency of the federal transportation planning process. It is
an annual list of federal obligated projects and will be available on our web-
site. Mr. Sullivan had a question about funds remaining for the Warren Street
project and was told the project may not yet be closed out.
D. In-kind service forms (handout), Aaron
New committee members or those with salary changes should complete the
form and return it to A/GFTC as soon as possible.

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Transit
1. GGFT Update, Scott Sopczyk
Since the last meeting, some transit evening services have been initiated
between Fort Edward and Upper Glen. There has been a small but steady
ridership. Plans for summer trolley service are underway. There will be
an Advisory Committee Meeting next week. New vehicles will be delivered
in May.
2. AlterNet Rides, Aaron
This is an internet car pool initiative. At this time 6 people have signed up
as users. Glens Falls Hospital and The Great Escape are interested in
sponsoring their own pages on the site. They will contribute to what it
costs us to establish their locations as destinations and this will in turn
allow them to have some control of online features. In the future we want
to advertise this service on a larger scale. We have received good press
about the initiative.

Mr. Sopczyk mentioned that the Town of Queensbury and the Adirondack
Regional Chamber of Commerce have expressed interest in sponsoring
some bus shelters on Rte. 9. Additional bus/trolley shelters may become
a possibility at locations where repaving is planned.

Mr. Jenkins relayed to Mr. Sopczyk the interest seniors have in a regular
bus service at the Third Street Midtown Apartments. On-demand bus
service is available via a phone call, but existing services can be
reevaluated if there is significant need.

3. Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan (handout)
This draft is available on line. The Plan is required by Federal Transit
Administration to be in place in order to access three different FTA
programs: Section 5310-Elderly and individuals with disabilities; Section
5316-Job access and reverse commute (JARC); Section 5317-New
freedom. The draft plan contains some census data, reasons why there is
a need to do the plan and geographic analysis. The preliminary materials
and results from our survey were shared with a number of human services
agencies that had returned the original survey. Aaron reviewed the draft
plan in depth for the TAC and discussed some of the modifications and
additions to the draft that will be forthcoming. Aaron asked for approval
of the draft with the additions and updates for public comment. The
desire is to start the public comment period around the 12
th. To make
certain that one has the current draft on our web site, checking the post
date was suggested.

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A motion was made to approve the draft edited CHSTP for public comment

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

4. FTA passenger mile survey, Aaron
GGFT asked us to repeat the 2005 survey again to satisfy a Federal
Transit Administration requirement. Approximately 500 bus/trolley rides
are necessary to complete the survey. This year in addition to our staff,
temporary clerks will be hired. FTA requires that this passenger mile
study be done every three years to allow the allocation of federal funds
in urbanized areas with a population of over 200,000. Mr. Sopczyk is
hopeful that the new buses coming for 2009 will have passenger counters
and a way to automate and make the calculations required easier.
B. Consultant Activities
1. Access Management study, Aaron Most of the chapters are on line for
review. It is a large document. There was been good committee
participation on this study. This project has been on our work program for
quite some time (1999) and ended up being a regional study.
a. Presentation of final document-Aaron gave the presentation to
the TAC focusing on the results of two of the four case studies:
Rte. 9 (Upper Glen Street in Qsby) and NYS 32 (Dix Avenue in
Kingsbury). The guidebook includes the two other case studies:
NYS 197 in Moreau and Quaker Road in Queensbury. There is a
great deal of technical documentation included. We would like to
recommend this guidebook for Policy Committee consideration to
adopt it.

Mr. Rettig requested more time to have the guidebook reviewed
by his staff. A letter will be sent out to the TAC to get approval
for the guidebook by the 29
th of February so it can be presented
to the Policy Committee.

2. Aviation Road Corridor study, Aaron
a. Status of Work: An expansion of the scope of work has been
requested by the Town of Queensbury and the Queensbury
School District. Three primary intersection improvements were
identified; all three involve possible roundabouts. Queensbury
would like the consultants to analyze the locations of the
potential roundabouts more carefully. ROW was discussed. The
revised price to reanalyze the three locations was $14K. Mr.
LaMothe questioned if the School had completed their Master
Plan. Aaron said the contents of the Plan are known to include a
new access on the western end of the campus; they are looking
at a modification to the main entrance (a roundabout).

A motion was requested to allow the consultant to go ahead with
the analysis

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Joe Sullivan MOTION CARRIED

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February 8, 2008
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3. Upcoming RFPs, Aaron
Hope to have the RFP out for Exit 20 soon.

About a year ago Mr. Lamy and Mr. Bill Thomas met with DOT-Region 1 to
talk about the Exit 20 corridor. Mr. Lamy received a letter recently from
Mark Kennedy describing their findings regarding signal coordination and
issues with backups on the ramp. A copy will be sent to A/GFTC.

Mr. LaMothe pointed out that there are 21 curb cuts from the exit ramp to
the traffic light at 149. This is the same amount of square footage as the
original Crossgates Mall and there is 1/3 of the parking. The initial
recommendation from the County Planning Board when the first project
was presented was to put in service roads but the Town of Queensbury did
not wish to do so.

The GIS RFP would allow someone to come in and look at our data
system. This would include scanning the other MPOs around the state to
see what types of things they are doing with GIS. We want to improve
our internet mapping capabilities. Hope to get this RFP out soon.

Mr. Rettig invited A/GFTC staff to attend a regional GIS coordination
meeting on February 20
th at the regional office.

C. Staff Activities
1. Long Range Plan, Aaron
In the next several weeks staff will be able to resume work on various
chapters of the Plan.

2. Local System Short Term Accident Reduction, Aaron
Several months ago Mr. Rettig came to a TAC meeting and outlined the
desired direction of STP safety money as a local system short term
accident reduction program that would be funded by taking the safety
allocation and turning it over to locals on a regional basis. This would
allow the 8-county region to select projects based upon the most pressing
identifiable safety needs. CDTC has decided that they are entitled to a 70-
75% sub-allocation of these funds. As a result 3 solicitations within the
Region will need to be done.

D. 2008 UPWP Updates (handout), Aaron
We are required to do an administrative update. Last year we had a two year
work program approved. We will go back to a one year work program after
this year. The financial tables reflect carryovers and new FHWA funds.
One major change in the narrative is the description of technical services
contract that we would administer as a Shared Cost Initiative (an NYSMPO
mechanism for taking funds that would have gone to an individual MPO off
the top of the allocations and pooling them towards consulting studies that
are of value to all). This is being changed to hosting a software and
visualization standardization cost initiative.

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5. TIP
A. Amendments, Aaron
The processed amendments included getting Buffum’s Bridge back in the
program and a $1 million NHS amendment for ROW acquisition for the 149
job.

Mr. Rettig reported that statewide, NHS funds are tremendously over
programmed.

B. Project Update
1. Warren County, Jeff Tennyson
Alder Brook Road
, have received proposals and are in the consultant
selection phase
Grist Mill Road
and Tannery, expect a small increase on some
construction costs for Tannery Bridge; to proceed with the two bridges
at the same time and to provide a single detour has undergone some
review by DOT.
Beach Road
, expect scoping soon
Corinth Road,
the Town of Queensbury has decided to pursue
underground utilities regardless of whether they win their court case or
not. ROW money is being distributed. Aaron asked if the Town is now
committed to paying for the underground utilities. A Town Resolution
is expected. Construction may start at the earliest in the spring of
2009.
Woolen Mill Bridge,
is stalled in ROW incidentals and acquisitions;
expecting some final resolution and hoping to move forward
2. Washington County – no report
3. Town of Moreau, Preston Jenkins
Had nothing to report
4. Glens Falls, Joe Sullivan
Working on paving schedule.
5. Queensbury – no report
6. NYSDOT, Dave Rettig
NYS 149-NYS 372
, There is a slope failure on NYS 372,
consequently this cannot wait and has to be accelerated into the
149 project.
197 over East Branch of Hudson
, still need to have a public
meeting since the project is now a rehab not a replacement.
Rte 372
, there will be an advisory committee meeting

On February 15 there will be a 20 years needs roundtable
discussion at DOT, Wolf Road from 1 to 3:30. The Commissioner
will give a presentation at this meeting. Subtopics will include
energy and environment.

5. Next meeting and adjourn- Will schedule the next meeting as needed. Mr.
LaMothe made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 12:34.

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, December 18, 2007

Attendance:

Members:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Harry Gutheil, Supervisor, Town of Moreau
James Lindsay, Supervisor, Town of Kingsbury
Brian Rowback, Regional Director, NYSDOT Region 1
Dan Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Louis Tessier, Supervisor, Town of Lake George
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Bill Rinaldi)
William Thomas, Chairman, Warren County Board of Supervisors
JoAnn Trinkle, Chairman, Washington County Board of Supervisors

Others:

Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW
Dave Rettig, NYSDOT- Region 1
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
John Wheatley, EDC Warren County

A/GFTC Staff:

Monika Bulman, Administrative Assistant
Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director

Prior to the official start of the meeting Aaron expressed appreciation to Mr. Thomas
and Mr. Gutheil for their many years of supportive contribution to our Committee.
They will be missed. We wish them well in their retirement.

I. Welcome & Introductions
A. Introductory remarks-Chairman William Thomas introduced Mr. Brian
Rowback, the new Regional Director for NYSDOT Region 1.
Mr. Rowback has been in his current position since October 1, having
previously worked in the Main Office in addition to previous experience
with an MPO. He is working on becoming familiar with the unique regional
issues and the regional program. He assured the Policy Committee he is a
hands-on person and is accessible. Mr. Rowback commented on the
Adirondack Park (three separate regions cover the Park) and the need for
uniformity. Mr. Lamy expressed his concerns to Mr. Rowback with pass
through projects and the backlog with the State Comptrollers Office. Mr.
Grimmke indicated he was very happy with residency relationships.

Chairman Bill Thomas called the formal Policy Committee to order at
10:17 am.
II. Visitors Issues – None
III. Administration
1. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

Motion was made to approve the June 13, 2007 minutes

MOVED BY : Dan Stec SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED
Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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December 18, 2007

IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. Transit
A. GGFT Report-Scott Sopczyk (handout)
Two small buses will be replaced in 2008; an agreement will be
entered to replace larger buses in 2009; new trolleys with air
conditioning were put into service this year; extended evening
services have started and will operate on a trial basis through
June; an agreement has been entered with West Mountain ski
center to operate a shuttle service between Glens Falls and the
West Mountain facility to accommodate skiers and employees;
overall ridership in 2007 was up except for FAME.
B. AlterNet Rides development-Aaron, GGFT brought an internet-
based carpooling match finding service to A/GFTC’s attention; it
is now on our website. It allows members to search for or offer
rides to 20 preset destinations. Membership is free. Corporate
sponsorship is what A/GFTC would like to obtain to support this
program. Destinations include Glens Falls Hospital, City of Glens
Falls, Washington County Municipal Center, Sagamore Resort,
etc. A/GFTC has paid for the web application. The Aviation Mall
had security and capacity concerns for a park and ride and after
some discussion, Dave Rettig has agreed to have Region 1 staff
contact the mall to pursue a possible leasing arrangement.

2. Consultant Projects, Aaron
A. Access Management Study-expecting production of the final
document to begin next week; the report will be presented to the
Policy Committee at its next meeting for MPO adoption.
B. Aviation Road Corridor Study-the study advisory committee will
be meeting today at 3; in June there was a very well attended
public workshop at the Ramada; we had over 60 people; the
documentation of the plan needs work; the recommendations are
very solid and have good support from the School and the Town.
Intersection modifications were examined; a series of
roundabouts appear to be very beneficial work. A revised draft of
the plan will be posted on our website.
C. Traffic Count Program-we just received our second season of
traffic count data from our consultant; we are in the process of
reviewing this new information against our old count data.
D. On-call engineering services-Aaron wanted to remind everyone
that we do have 3 contracts available with consulting engineering
firms with the express purpose of assisting municipalities in the
form of transportation engineering services. These were set up to
provide municipalities with services that we do not have staff
expertise for. The contracts are capped at $10K and a local
match of 20% is required. Brief discussion ensued regarding Exit
20.

3. Staff Activities – Aaron
A. Long Range Plan Update,
1. Status of Plan development/draft chapter
The Plan has been taken on at a chapter by chapter basis; the
introductory materials, setting, goals and objectives,
summary of public survey results, draft copies of the

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public transportation chapter and the bridge chapter are
completed; we still have considerable work remaining on the
highway chapter, need to update the bicycle and pedestrian
chapter and a chapter on rail and freight and finances.

2. Review and approval of draft Principles-(handout)
Aaron envisions the Principles as a conclusion to the
Long Range Plan. These set general policies for the Council as it
considers future projects and programs.

A motion was made to approve the Principles

MOVED BY : JoAnn Trinkle SECONDED BY: Dan Stec MOTION CARRIED

B. Coordinated Human Services Transportation Program-Aaron
This Program is a required Plan in order for areas to access three
different Federal Transit Administration programs designed to provide
additional transportation services for elderly and disabled individuals
as well as access to jobs and reverse commuting. Since the last
meeting, tabulations of a number of returned surveys from municipal
department heads have been completed. A funding prioritization
strategy for the program needs to be established. Hope to complete
this Plan before April.

V. Transportation Improvement Program(TIP)
1. Recent development or action items
for ongoing federal aid projects:
A. New York State Department of Transportation, Dave Rettig –
Most of the projects have been shut down during winter; several
projects are in design; at the last TAC meeting, Mary Ricard,
Project Manager for the 197 bridge, explained the reasoning for
the change in the scope of the project and the need for a TIP
amendment. At the TAC the consensus was that DOT allow the
public to hear more about the project before changing the
original scope. There will be a public informational meeting on
this project. Region 1 staff and Aaron attended a meeting at
CDTC to discuss a proposed local highway STAR (short-term
accident reduction) program. The MPOs agreed with the Region1
proposal to apply all of the Region’s STP Safety money to this
program, using a data driven approach with no suballocations.
Discussion took place regarding source and use of accident data.
B. Warren County, Bill Lamy
▪Corinth/Exit 18 Corridor-in the process of acquiring ROW; going
through the actual payment of checks to property owners for
about half of the of the 90 parcels that will need to be acquired.
There has been a statute change in the eminent domain process
resulting in the need for another public hearing. Working closely
with the Town of Queensbury to come to an ultimate decision on
whether the undergrounding of utilities is the way the project will
be presented in final design. It is doubtful this project will be
under construction in 2008.
▪The Beach Road Corridor – The County has partnered with
NYSDEC to do the entire corridor. 60% of the road is owned by
Warren County, 40% by NYSDEC. There have been several public
informational meetings. Close to finalizing a scoping document.

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▪Construction on the Padanarum Road Bridge in the Town of
Bolton is completed.
C. Washington County DPW, Willy Grimmke
▪Since the last Policy Committee, the following bridge projects
have been completed: County Rte. 21 over the Mettawee in the
Town of Granville, and the rehabilitation Buskirk, Eagleville and
Rexleigh Covered Bridges.
▪County Rte. 12 over the Mettawee in Granville is under design
▪County Rte. 42 in the Town of Fort Edward is under construction
and should be complete in the spring of 2008
▪County Rte. 41 getting ready to go to consultant selection
▪County Rte. 61 over the Battenkill has been reopened
D. Saratoga County/Town of Moreau, Harry Gutheil – no recent
developmentss

E.
City of Glens Falls, no representation present
F.
Town of Queensbury, Dan Stec
▪Rte 149, business owners are concerned about the duration the
timing of the closure on Rte. 149. Mr. Stec hoped it would be
possible to pick and choose what end of the stretch the
construction would start on. The suggestion was also made to
have a second or off shift construction schedule to expedite the
work.
▪Rte 9 will be resurfaced, going from city line to Round Pond Rd.
▪Bridge slated for replacement on 9L near Haviland Road
▪Dunhams Bay Bridge in Lake George has very low clearance and
should have greater clearance.
2. 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Plan
A. Status of STIP, the STIP has been approved
B. TIP Changes/Amendments
• Make the Connection Program, Aaron
This program allowed for small – scale bike/pedestrian
projects. Our solicitations resulted in 4 applications.
Three applications were accommodated in full in addition to
the partial funding of the fourth request.
C. Annual Listing of Obligated Projects, Aaron
MPOs have to put together a list of obligated projects. We are
working on it.
Mr. Rowback had some closing comments, noting his favorable
impression with scope of the MPO activities.
Mr. Gutheil asked about Exit 12.

VI. Next meeting and adjourn
Hope to have a meeting in March
Mr. Thomas adjourned the meeting at 11:40.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC September 25, 2007
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Mayor LeRoy Akins City of Glens Falls 761-3804 761-0234
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290
Dale Granger City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
Harry Gutheil Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Walter Young LC/LGRPB 668-5773 668-5774
Others

Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
John Wheatley EDC Warren County 761-6007
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting to
order at 10:05.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the July 24
th meeting minutes.
MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

B. Host agency agreement-Aaron, A/GFTC has opted to renew the host
agency agreement with the LC/LGRPB for four years beginning in 2008. The
LC/LGRPB has also passed a resolution in support of this and has forwarded it
to DOT. No additional administrative action is needed.

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
a. Aviation Road, Aaron
Since the last meeting, there have been two study advisory committee
meetings. The public work session held at the Ramada Inn was well
attended (60+ people). The presentation to the public was a segment by
segment and intersection by intersection look at the alternatives available
based on the feedback received from the consultants. Aaron distributed a
copy of the alternatives presented at the meeting for members to look
over. The consultants are working on traffic projections, a build out

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analysis, etc. Roundabouts are being proposed. The study goes to West
Mountain Road/Aviation Road intersection at the request of the County.
Suggestions regarding the high accident rates at WMR included
additional advisory signage, narrowing the striping, flashers on the other
side of the road, traffic signal.
b. Access Management, Aaron
RSG is working on the revisions to the access management guidebook.
Most of the technical documentation is already in place. The educational
slideshow is complete. Aaron and Bob Chamberlin will present the topic at
the Region 1 Planning and Land Use Conference on October 3
rd. The same
topic will be discussed at the Saratoga Planning Conference on January
30
th. Aaron gave examples of some of the locations with access issues
(sight distance, approach angle) and the possibility of using medians in
some areas.
c. HSTP, Aaron
Not much has been done on this since the last meeting. Draft of the
introductory material is in place. Scott Sopczyk has had an opportunity to
review the draft. Pete Rae will also review the draft. A meeting with
Washington County has been set up for Friday, September 28. The
services that need to be improved will need to be prioritized and a project
selection methodology needs to be developed.
d. Long Range Plan, Aaron (handouts)
A completed draft of the public survey results was distributed. The
responses to the survey questions are graphically represented. Mr.
Sopczyk and Mr. Rettig have had an opportunity to review the draft.
Committee members were requested to look over the draft. Aaron went
over some of the results. Currently staff is working on pavement
condition analysis, bridge condition analysis (draft handout). A mistake
located on the top graph, locally owned bridges in Washington County are
shown as being 27% deficient but should be 24%.
e. Make the Connection applications, Aaron
This was the bike/pedestrian spot improvement. We had $200K in
unmatched federal funds available for this round of funding. Every other
year this program will be available. Four applications were received: the
Village of So. Glens Falls, the City of Glens Falls, Warren County Park and
Recreation and the Village of Whitehall. Scott Sopczyk, Mike Valentine,
Willy Grimmke and Aaron will review the applications and make a
determination. This meeting will take place after the TAC. Once the
selections are made, another meeting will be set up with the project
sponsors and Region 1 reps.

5. TIP
A. Status of TIP/STIP, Aaron
Notification was received this week that air quality conformity has been
determined for the TIP.

B. Amendments,(handouts) Aaron
Whitehall RR bridges
-when we went through the project selection portion
of developing the TIP, the Region came to us with some revised numbers
as to what was affordable. The two bridges in Whitehall are
being reconstructed to provide vertical clearance for double stacked
freight cars on the Canadian Rail. These two projects are being
reinstated. This does not impact anyone else’s bridge schedule.

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A motion was made to approve the Amendment Request by Washington County

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Dave Rettig MOTION CARRIED

NYS RT.197 bridge over the Hudson
-this probably qualifies in TIP jargon as
a significant scope change to an existing project. What is being proposed
by the Region is to rehabilitate rather than replace the 197 bridge
over the Hudson River (East Branch). The question raised, are we allowed
to federally fund a rehabilitation of a functionally obsolete (FO) structure
that doesn’t fix the FO? The question was asked why is there a scope
change now? It was decided to table this amendment until the next TAC
meeting in November. Mr. Rettig will bring Mary Ricard to our next TAC
meeting to answer questions.

C. Project Updates
a. Warren County, Bill Lamy
Corinth Road
, have actively been pursuing the acquisition of right
away. As soon as the master agreement is processed completely
by the State, payments can be made and property can be
procured. If everything goes as planned, bidding should take
place and construction should start in the spring.
Quaker Road Signals
, A meeting was held with Frank Bonafide
and other staff at DOT and the agreement was made that they
would go out and check the signals and hardware/software.
What is currently in place needs to be reprogrammed. DOT
volunteered to work with local representatives who have
maintained the signal lights in the past.
Beach Road Project,
a second public informational meeting was
held, received comments and sometime before the end of the
month an alternative plan should be received from the
consultant. This plan will be presented to the public.
Bridges
, busy trying to get master agreements updated, getting
cash flow in place and just have some minor engineering work to
do on some of the bridges. On October 1 consultant selection will
take place on Alder Brook Bridge.

b. Washington County, Willy Grimmke
CR 42
, moving along
Covered Bridges
, they are complete; had the ribbon cutting on
August 4th.
Whitehall Bridges
, is preparing to send design approval
CR 12
, is on hold because of schedule delay but hope to work
with DOT for an amendment to our agreement.
c. Town of Moreau/Saratoga County
Mr. Gutheil asked if there was any news regarding the Round
Lake Bypass. Mr. Gutheil realized that this a questions for the
other MPO. Mr. Rettig reported that DOT is trying to award it.
d. Glens Falls, Dale Granger
The roundabout is just about done; the trees are finally in. Mr.
Granger thanked everyone for their assistance on this project.
e. Queensbury, no representation
Mr. Wheatley had a question regarding the status of the eastern
part of Quaker Road. The project had been on the capital
program but had to be deferred because of rising costs of other

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projects. Mr. Wheatley also asked what is happening with Exit
20: A study will take place once Aviation Road and Access
Management projects are complete. Data collection at Exit 20
should take place next year during peak traffic season.
f. NYSDOT, Dave Rettig
The deadline to registeration for the October
3rd Transportation
Land Use Conference in Schenectady has been extended. The
number of people registered is smaller than anticipated. Mr.
Rettig suggested calling Pat, his secretary, to register.The
legislation that was recently signed that has to do with
congestion pricing in NY requires a form of program update. The
Department is attempting to get some input from MPOs on how
to handle this. It is not clear what “new program” means in the
legislation. This should take place by March. The STIP is very
late and needs to get out for public review by October 5
th. There
are political issues at NYMTC that are delaying their TIP. Not
delaying the design portion of the HBRR projects may turn out to
be good strategy, as it is not unreasonable to expect the
possibility of a larger bridge program that may allow delayed
projects to be accelerated.
g. Greater Glens Falls Transit, Scott Sopczyk (agenda omission)
Ridership on the trolleys was up 20%; overall ridership through
the end of August was up by 5%. Will be replacing small buses
in 2008 and larger buses in 2009. Funding appropriations are in
place for this. Still waiting on results from the community
services for transportation grant applications. This would provide
funding for operating some evening hour transportation services.
h. Other – Mark Galough- the bio-diesel facility in Hampton is going
through the final permitting process. Peckham has purchased a
facility at the intersection of 149 and the Canal. They have
applied for funding and gone before the Town Planning Board on
several occasions. Anticipate increased traffic, certainly rail
traffic, at that facility. At the Industrial Park at the airport there
are currently 3 buildings under construction on the Kingsbury
side and another one should be obtaining a building permit in the
next two weeks.

Mr. Wheatley-the Queensbury Industrial Road construction has
started.

5. Next meeting and adjourn- Next meeting will be held on November 13 at 10am.

Mayor Phinney made a motion to adjourn at 11:26 .

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC July 24, 2007
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Stuart Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Mark Galough Wash. County Planning 746-2290
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
Harry Gutheil Town of Moreau 792-1802 792-1062
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Others

Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
John Wheatley EDC Warren County 761-6007
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting to
order at 10:05.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the May 24
th meeting minutes.
MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Mayor Phinney MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)

A. Aviation Road, Aaron
A project newsletter went out to committee members and to people who
had attended the first public meeting. The newsletter is available on line.
The school board met yesterday to discuss the Master Site Plan.
Consideration is being given to a new access point west of the campus.
An Advisory Committee meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday at 2 at the
Queensbury Town Office Building. A second public work session will be
scheduled for August or September.

B. Access Management, Aaron
The technical document is complete; working with RSG to revise the
guidebook to include suggestions from the study committee; will delay
training classes for planning and zoning board personnel until next year;
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functions (Oct. 3
rd Land Use Conference and/or the Saratoga Safety
Planning Conference).

C. Progress on HSTP and LRP, Aaron
(handout) The draft introductory material based upon available
demographics and survey data is complete, but we would like to have
comments from DOT and committee members before the material is
submitted to the public. Would like comments back within 2 to 3 weeks.
The next step will be to formulate an action plan with the survey
respondents and interested municipalities. The intent was to have a
rewritten survey analysis available to handout today, but it will be emailed
to committee members in several weeks. Assistance with the LRP includes
getting some help from DOT in compiling bridge conditions, pavements
scores, VMTR, traffic information, etc.

D. NYSMPO Annual Meeting review, Aaron
The second annual NYSMPO conference was held in June at West Point;
the brainstorming session on the direction MPOs will be taking was of
special interest (handout); a more direct relationship with federal policy
and FHWa, expanded voting membership, limiting proxy voting, being
more than a conduit of federal funds. A discussion followed regarding the
voting membership qualifications with the point made that elected officials
represent the desires of their constituents.

5. TIP
A. Status of TIP/STIP, Aaron
The TIP and draft STIP are in reasonable agreement with some minor
changes and a couple of larger changes. Dave Rettig explained why Diamond
Point Road (Exit 23) was put back to 2012 due to the problem with 9P???over
the Northway (Exit 14). Additional funding went to 17201 and 17204. No
committee action is needed for these changes. An updated TIP will be online
tomorrow.

B. Amendments
A TIP amendment request was made by Greater Glens Falls Transit
(handout). GGFT will purchase one supervisory vehicle utilizing proceeds
from the sale of ’94 trolley. This capital project is to be included in an
upcoming grant application to the FTA in late September. Existing funds that
have already been allocated to GGFT will be utilized and will not require any
reprogramming or additional local funds.

A motion was made to approve the Amendment Request by GGFT

MOVED BY: Dave Rettig SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

C. Project Updates

a. Warren County, Lisa Penistan
Corinth Road
, RK Hite is working on acquiring property
Beach Road
, had a public meeting at the Town Hall in Lake
George on July 11th. The meeting was not well attended but the
weather could have been a contributing factor. Discussion has
taken place about having another meeting. Comments regarding
the project have been coming in. A meeting was also held with
DEC to discuss their section of Beach Road.

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Woden Mill Bridge
, getting the supplemental approved for the
Historic Documentation, ROW and contract inspection is in the
works.
Tannery and Grist Mill Bridges
, received concurrence on SHPO
and NEPA classification; final design report was sent to DOT and
the County for approval
Harrington Bridge
, getting all the agreements in place so CHA can
start
Middleton Bridge,
getting scope approved and agreement in
place so FAA can start.

b. Washington County, Willy Grimmke
CR 21
, is complete and open
On August 4 there will be a celebration on the reopening of the
Burkirk, Eagleville and Rexleigh covered bridges after major
reconstruction. There will be a ribbon-cutting ceremony.
CR 42
, blah, blah to Whitehall RR Bridge has the final design
report approaching??????????????HELP

c. Town of Moreau/Saratoga County

d. Glens Falls, Aaron
There was an article in the Post Star regarding the roundabout
and in general the comments were favorable. Dave Rettig
questioned the lack of representation from the City of Glens Falls
at our meetings. Scott Sopczyk said he would talk to Mayor
Akins.

e. Queensbury, Stu Baker
The connector road project was award to Kubricky Construction
Corp. Work should start this fall. Discussion regarding whether
the traffic generated by the Industrial Park was calculated in the
traffic projections

Mr. Gutheil reported the County water project has been let.

f. NYSDOT, Dave Rettig
The paving has been completed between 26-28. Work on 24-26
began last week.
Rte 4, the issues with Irving Tissue have been worked out.
Clay Hill Road surcharge ???????????
On October 3
rd there will be a Transportation Land Use
Conference in Schenectady
Phase 1 of Rte. 4 should be completed in Feb. 2008. Phase 2
may start in June 2010.

5. Next meeting and adjourn- Next meeting will be held on September 25 at 10am.

Mayor Phinney made a motion to adjourn at 11:02.

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Attendance:

Members:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Harry Gutheil, Chairman, Saratoga County Board of Supervisors
James Lindsay, Supervisor, Town of Kingsbury
Bob Phinney, Mayor, Village of South Glens Falls
Merrilyn Pulver, Supervisor, Town of Fort Edward
Dave Rettig, NYSDOT- Region 1
Robert Shay, Supervisor, Town of White Creek
Dan Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
William Thomas, Chairman, Warren County Board of Supervisors
JoAnn Trinkle, Chairman, Washington County Board of Supervisors
Walter Young, Director, LC/LGRPB

Others:
Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW
Lisa Penistan, Warren County DPW
Joe Rich, FHWA
Scott Sopczyk, Director, Greater Glens Falls Transit
Steve Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp
A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Kristina Hong, Transportation Analyst

I. Welcome & Introductions
Chairman Bill Thomas called the Policy Committee to order at 10:07 am.
II. Visitors Issues-
Jeff Jacobs inquired about the lack of bicycle and pedestrian accomodations
on the newly paved and striped West Mountain Road in Queensbury. Mr. Stec
deferred discussion to Chairman Thomas, who in turn, allowed Bill Lamy to
explain the decision to not stripe for bikes. Mr. Lamy explained that Warren
County DPW had looked into bicycle lanes for the entirety of West Mountain
Road, and that for a safe travel lane, the County would invoke eminent
domain to in order to acquire ROW from some residents along the road. The
DPW Committee then voted to not use eminent domain since the lanes would
be for recreation purposes. Mr. Jacobs countered that shared shoulders along
the road would not require eminent domain to be used, and that travel along
West Mountain Road would not be for just recreational uses, and that bicycle
lanes are also a mode of transportation. Chairman Thomas reiterated that Mr.
Jacobs’ complaints were best directed at him in his capacity as Chairman of
the Board of Supervisors.

III. Administration
1. Approval of last meeting’s minutes
Motion was made to approve the March 14, 2007 minutes

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: JoAnn Trinkle MOTION CARRIED
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IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. Transit Report – GGFT – Scott Sopczyk handed out and discussed GGFT’s
report. Three new diesel, air-conditioned trolley have been placed into
service this Spring. GGFT is also planning to replace four 16-passenger
minibuses in 2008 and four 30ft transit buses in 2009 in order to meet
2007 diesel emissions standards. Additionally, GGFT is working with
downtown businesses and attractions to operate a trolley loop through the
central business districts this Summer on a demonstration basis.
A proposed 25 cent base fare increase is expected to be effective in July
after a public comment period. There will also be a series of public forums
in late June for comments and suggestions on GGFT services.
2. Consultant Projects-Aaron
a. Access Management Study-RSG has finished the Educational Slide
Show to share with the public and municipal board members.
Additionally, the Regional Guidebook is nearly finished, as is the
technical documentation that illustrates many of the scenarios of traffic
demand resulting from increased development. A letter was also sent
out to municipalities about a Summer workshop asking for credit for
planning and zoning members that attend. Hopefully the finished
product will be ready for adoption by the next meeting and that
municipalities will in turn adopt the guidebook.
b. Aviation Road Corridor Study – The study has progressed slowly as
Wilbur Smith Assoc. and the Chazen Companies wait for developments
from the School District about their next steps. The study scope has
been expanded to include the intersection with West Mountain Road.
There is a July being scheduled to discuss alternatives. Mr. Stec
emphasized the community desire to see some results from this
process.
c. Traffic Count Program-Lochner Engineering is being retained to do
additional traffic counts. The next count will come in August to better
understand our peak seasonal traffic. If there are other municipal
count requests, we can forward them to our consultant for
consideration.
d. On-call Engineering Services- From eleven received proposals, staff
selected the firms of Creighton Manning Engineering, Chazen
Companies and Resource Systems Group. The three cover a range of
expertise. Municipalities that wish to take advantage of the program
should contact Aaron with candidate projects. Study amounts are
limited to $10,000 including local match.
3. Staff Activities – Aaron
a. Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan
This plan is required to access funding from three FTA programs.
Meetings were held with both Washington and Warren County Boards
to discuss transit services in each county, and surveys were distributed
to department heads to better understand the populations served and
underserved. 24 surveys were returned, and now a census-based
needs assessment is being under development.
b. SAFETEA Compliance/ Long Range Plan update
The Committee has received the SAFETEA Compliance Plan which
addresses our efforts to continue to comply with federal mandates of
the transportation bill. Work on the Long Range Plan continues; we
are keeping in step with work that CDTC is finishing on air quality
conformity, and are on track to finish in the fall.

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V. Transportation Improvement Program (TIP)
1. Discussion altered from agenda – The handouts)represent schedule and
funding changes since the last approved draft TIP. No deletions to projects
have been made. All dates indicate construction years.
A. NYSDOT – Dave Rettig
The Regional offices have been dealing with a lot of
overprogramming on a statewide level – and changes needed to
be made in order to provide funds for many of the projects.
Typically the MO is willing to accept minor overprogramming but
will not during this cycle. The two handouts of changes to the
2007-2012 TIP illustrate those projects that have delayed or
otherwise changed to preserve fiscal constraint. (list was
reviewed).
B. Warren County – Bill Lamy
All of the bridge projects are moving ahead in one form or
another. The Corinth Road project is in the ROW acquisition
phase, and there was recently a DOT meeting to make sure there
was enough funding for this project. The Connector Road is also
progressing, and the hope is for Spring 2008 construction.
Warren County is additionally entering into a partnership with the
Department of Environmental Conservation to do a reconstruction
of Beach Road in Lake George. The beginnings of scoping are
moving ahead there.
C. Washington County – Willy Grimmke
Covered bridge projects are nearly done. Buffum’s bridge was
recently red flagged, so hopefully the inspection report will be
forwarded quickly so the bridge can be added to the HBRR list.
Discussion ensued about the 197 bridge over the Hudson being
functionally obsolete, and that rehabilitation does not seem to be
the best option, although DOT is considering not replacing the
structure due to historical artifacts in the land around the site.
D. Saratoga County/ Town of Moreau
Mr. Gutheil wonders if the Spiers Falls intersection realignment
will include Fortsville Road, and also if a left turn signal from the
westbound portion of 197 to the southbound portion of Route 9
will be in place any time soon. Aaron will check on both items.
E. City of Glens Falls – Not Present.
F. Town of Queensbury
Nothing to report outside of the Aviation Road study.
2. Draft 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Review of changes from previous draft (handout)
B. Approval of final 2007-2012 TIP and Air Quality conformity
Determination
A Motion was made to approve the final 2007-2012 TIP and Air
Quality Conformity Determination

MOVED BY: Dan Stec SECONDED BY: Harry Gutheil MOTION CARRIED

VI. Other Business
Irving Tissue would like access improvements as part of the Route 4
reconstruction. Dave Rettig noted that a formal request must be sent to his
office very soon in order for that to happen.
VII. Next meeting and Adjourn
September 12 at 1:30 PM – Warren County Municipal Center, Room 6-103
The meeting adjourned at 11:30.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC May 24, 2007
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Stuart Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Michael Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls 747-4544 747-5597
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW 746-2440 746-2441
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mayor Bob Phinney South Glens Falls 793-1455 793-3063
David Rettig NYSDOT 388-0456 388-0430
Scott Sopczyk GGFT 792-1086 792-7952
Mike Valentine Saratoga Planning 884-4705 884-4780
Others

Frank Bonafide NYSDOT 388-0424 388-0430
Pat Fisher 747-3011
Lisa Penistan Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Steve Szanto Creighton Manning 446-0396
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Kristina Hong A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair Willy Grimmke called the meeting to
order at 1:37.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –A. Approval of last meeting’s minutes

A motion was made to approve the April 24
th meeting minutes.
MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

4. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)

A. On-call engineering services contracts, Aaron
Received 11 responses to the RFP; the 3 contracts were awarded to
Creighton Manning, RSG, and Chazen. These are for individual projects
with a 10K cap including 20% minimum local match.
B. Aviation Road and Access Management studies, Aaron
Both of these studies are moving along; a revised existing conditions
report which includes the westward extension out to West Mountain Road
for Aviation Road has been received; the graphics are still missing; once
they are received the document will be posted online.
There will be a Steering Committee meeting for the Access Management
Study Tues., May 29 at 9 am. A final cut of the educational slide show
should be ready; this slide show will be made available to planning and
zoning members. Letters have been sent out to planning and zoning

Adirondack / Glens Falls Transportation Council

Washington County Municipal Center
383 Broadway, Room A-231 Fort Edward, New York 12828
phone: (518) 746-2199 fax: (518) 746-2441
www.a
gftc.org info@agftc.org

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boards asking for their consideration in granting training credits for their
board members.

5. TIP
A. 2007-2012 Draft TIP, Aaron (handouts)
At the last meeting we came away with an understanding that we were
carrying a significant amount of over-programming in this area, some of
which was front loaded in the first 3 years of the TIP. This practice was
deemed inacceptable by the Main Office. Changes to the TIP are necessary
that involve moving some obligations out of the 3 SFY and 5 SFY year
periods. The Region sent some draft proposals and Aaron shared them
with the project sponsors. Comments regarding the proposals have been
received.
1. Proposed changes to NYSDOT projects and discussion- Frank Bonafide
Because projects are not always let when scheduled in the TIP there
has been a snowball effect. In the first part of the 5 year program
there are a lot of local projects. The intent is to balance the program
to the actual yearly allocations. Expenditures need to be spread
evenly through the years. Mr. Bonafide went back to his database to
balance the fund sources in 2005-2010 program and then the new five
year period 2007-2012. Hopefully there will be minimal impact to
projects so the first attempt was made to move things back by a few
months but some projects needed to be pushed back more. There is
some flexibility within fund sources but net over-programming is no
longer allowed. Mr. Bonafide referred to the handout material. The big
question remains, “How much can the state afford to reimburse the
counties for their expenditures?” Local projects were reviewed
beginning with Washington County on the handout titled Planned
Obligation Moves to Balance Program. A correction to the NHS project
listing was made, Pin #124814 should be for Rte 197 not 149.

Willy Grimmke identified HBRR projects 175518 (Saunders and
Division) and 175515 (Clinton St.) as potential problems. Both of
these projects are over the CP rail and Mr. Grimmke feels there are
many people who have a vested interest in them. These bridges
represent approx. $3mil. in federal funds. Another project of concern
to Mr. Grimmke is the longevity of County Rt 61 (Buffum’s) over the
Battenkill. This is not in the 3 year TIP because of a suspect
inspection. On Truthville, the County just held a public meeting that
indicated construction would be later this year. Willy would prefer that
Truthville and Buffum’s remain in the program as scheduled.

Bill Lamy reported that the design for both of his bridges (WAR 126)
and (WAR 104) has been completed to bid them together and put in
one temporary bridge to serve as a detour while they are both under
construction. One of the bridges was delayed on the adjusted TIP.
The suggestion was made to move both bridges out or to move WAR
120 out. Harrington Road will be moved out of the 3 year TIP.
Middleton has an 18 month delay.

Exit 18 project is going forward as scheduled which is a major
concession by DOT.

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Discussion took place regarding the safety of some of the bridges. The
result: Buffum’s will be brought back in, conceding the Truthville
delay. Harrington Road was pushed out and this should allow the two
Stony Creek structures to be coordinated as scheduled. Shushan is
being kicked out of 2009 to 2012.

Buffum’s will be reintroduced via committee action as soon as possible.
A project has to be eligible for HBRR funding before a TIP amendment
can take place. (Note: Buffum’s has since been red-flagged due to
poor condition rating – AF).

Aaron commented on 197 over the Hudson being brought into the 3
year TIP by DOT. This is a $6 Mil NHS job. Aaron noted that it was
hoped that this was done for the sake of project coordination because
moving it forward was contrary to the fiscal constraint exercise.

No projects were added or deleted from the TIP so Dave Rettig felt it
was not necessary to have another public comment period.

Warren County Woolen Mill Bridge Amendment Request was necessary
because of the addition of a temporary pedestrian bridge, some
alteration of an abutment wing wall, some realignments, etc. The
current amount listed on the TIP was an estimated amount when the
TIP was updated. The new amount is the actual consultant agreement
amount.

A motion was made to approve the TIP amendment request by Warren
County.

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

DOT also had a TIP amendment request involving switching SDF to
STP conversion. $2.1 mil for paving on Rte 8 in Warren County.

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

A motion was made to approve the changes discussed at today’s
meeting.

MOVED BY: Mayor Phinney SECONDED BY: Bill Lamy MOTION CARRIED

6. Next meeting/adjourn – A Policy Committee meeting is scheduled for June
13 at 10 am. The next TAC will be July 24 at 10 am.

Mike Valentine made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 3:02.