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MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC December 19, 2012
Attendees Agency
Members and Participants
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls
Ed Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Frank Bonafide NYSDOT
Michael Breault Washington County DPW
Ed Doughney Warren County DPW
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Michael Valentine Saratoga County Planning

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Kate Mance A/GFTC
Monika Bulman A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron called the meeting to order at 1:35.
2. Visitor Issues – There were no visitor issues.
3. Administrative Items – Aaron – We have several items we wanted to put up for
auction with Warren County. This includes the Designjet plotter, which needs service,
and some furniture. Warren County is working on the logistics to allow us to utilize their
auction site.
4. UPWP
A. Completed/Ongoing Activities
1) Traffic engineering services, Aaron
a. Crandall/Orville Intersection – Aaron- This is an evaluation that was recently
conducted for the City. The findings from Chazen were presented to the Glens
Falls Board of Public Safety at their meeting in November. Chazen had done an
analysis of the nine accidents that had occurred at the intersection of
Crandall/Orville over a three year period. The consultant formulated two basic
recommendations: a one-way treatment for Orville (this was rejected) and stop
sign control on the Orville Street approaches (this was endorsed by the City).
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b. Street and subdivisions standards review – Kate – We have been working with
the Town of Warrensburg and the Chazen Companies to review the Town’s
street and subdivision standards and suggest revisions that are complementary
to Complete Streets policies. Chazen drew up some new plans and revised some
of the text of the Town’s Subdivision ordinance, which regulates the design and
layout of streets. Although the proposed changes are complete, there is still a
lot of work to do on this project, in terms of actually getting the local law
amended. The revisions were presented to their Planning Board in November.
They were receptive to the proposed changes. To move forward on this, SEQR
documents, town resolutions, public hearing notices, 239 referrals will be
forwarded to the Clerk. It is hoped that the document will be taken up for
approval in February.
2) Bicycle map – Kate – We have 15,000 of them. The printed output did not match
our draft, but the information in the map is not impacted.
3) Long Range Plan 2035 update – survey. Aaron – At the last meeting concern was
expressed regarding the outreach of the survey. We investigated doing a phone
survey as was suggested at a prior meeting, but the cost and reformatting of the
survey makes this prohibitive. We will fan the survey out using conventional mail
methods and getting it out to a broader representation of people. Kate – 130 people
started taking the survey, only 113 of them finished the survey. Issues have
resulted with the ranking of certain topics for respondents using the paper version
of the survey. It may be possible to tweak the paper version to minimize these
issues.
4) Countywide accident analyses – Kate reviewed the draft handouts depicting data
for Washington County with the TAC. A text document and more detailed maps (for
every municipality) will be part of this analysis. The handouts included the
export of every traffic accident between 2006 and 2011 from the State’s Accident
Location Information System database. All of the intersection data was stripped
out. GIS operations were performed to make the data points snap to the roadway
segment. Coupled with traffic volume data, this resulted an accident rate per
million vehicle miles. The analysis also included a density map of accidents, which is
useful to identify “hot spots” of crashes which may not be revealed through the
accident rate analysis. The goal of the analysis is to allow the counties the ability to
use this data for future Highway Safety Improvement Program (HSIP) funding
rounds. No analyses of the State system will be done. We are waiting for traffic
data from Warren County. Kevin Hajos indicated that counts are still underway and
may be available in the Spring. Mike Valentine requested an analysis for the Town
of Moreau and will send data to to Kate.
5) Crossing guard location evaluation, Aaron – This is an evaluation we are doing for
the City of Glens Falls Police Department. Aaron, Kate and Glens Falls Hospital staff
have counted numerous staffed school crossings throughout the City looking for
locations where children are actually using the staffed crossings or crossing at other
locations. We have the counts but have not finalized or written up the results.
B. 2013-14 Program
1) Solicitation Results, Aaron – A solicitation went out for planning project candidates
with a deadline of December 17. The Warrensburg Town Supervisor contacted us
about a number of safety evaluations he would like conducted at a variety of

intersections throughout the Town. We also received a request from the Town of
Chester (handout). Wayne LaMothe explained that The Town has completed, under a
Department of State funded program, an analysis of Main Street and a streetscape
program. There are two key intersections identified for improvement; one in
Pottersville and one in Chestertown. These require further engineering or design
work. Because of increased pedestrian traffic, there are additional safety concerns
that need to be addressed and a traffic consultant is needed at this point Aaron
noted that we have renewed the on-call engineering assistance contracts for a
upcoming two year term. We have four firms: Chazen, RSG, Creighton Manning and
Clough Harbor. There is a cap of $20K for each individual contract.
The City sent us a project request today. They wish to pursue conceptual design for
pedestrian related improvements at the Fire Road location between Crandall Park
and the YMCA. (handout)
The Town of Moreau – Mike Valentine outlined a project request for the Exit 17 area
from the interchange to Route 197 along Route 9. There is mixed use retail
development in the area and sanitary sewer is being brought in. The last corridor
study was done in 2002 and the Town is ready for an update with design guidelines
and standards. A zoning review is going on right now. Aaron requested a letter that
articulates the specific elements of the conceptual project.
2) Schedule for Program Development, Aaron – We need an approved program to
the State by March 15. Prior we need a month of public comments and Policy
Committee Review before submission. A handout with proposed meeting schedule
was referred to at this time. A brief discussion of budget, set aside, and carry-over
took place.
5. Transit
A. GGFT Update: Scott – A new high in transit ridership was seen in 2012. ADA
FAME service fell off somewhat and that could be due to the fact that some of the
nursing homes provide their own transportation. Requires have been received regarding
a Warrensburg commuter type service next summer. SUNY Adirondack, once the dorms
are completed, wants hourly service and an expansion to Saturday service. Several
small buses will be replaced, maintenance work will be undertaken at the GGFT facility.
There will be benches available once the Beach Road project is completed, the bus
shelter at Rte 4 will be replaced. In 2012 there were about 345,000 riders.
B. Coordinated Human Services Transportation Committee, Kate – The second
meeting was held in December. The group is going strong, two new people have joined
the committee, and good information is exchanged during the meetings. The priority
expressed by the committee is a regional mobility management product (either a plan
that links resources to providers or hiring someone to actually perform the role of
mobility manager). This group will meet every other month.
C. 5316/17 solicitation, Aaron – There will be a State administered solicitation for
these two transit programs – Job Access and Reverse Commute (5316) and New
Freedoms (5317), the latter of which is intended to fund enhancements or upgrades to
existing ADA compliant transportation. Both of these programs have been eliminated in
MAP 21. The State will administer this solicitation. Approximately $180K will be
available.

Wayne LaMothe brought up the concern for public transit service to North Creek. They
do have a shuttle service for people getting off the train but Wayne wondered if GGFT
could provide some service. Scott stated that the concept has been discussed before.
Winter operations of transit vehicles on steep roads are a challenge. Scott said that he is
open to further discussion with the Town.
6. TIP
A. Amendments and Modifications – The public comment period for two TIP
amendments previously approved by this committee is ongoing. The public comment
period closes on the 27th of December and then Aaron will circulate a mail ballot vote to
the Policy Committee and get these amendments cleared the first week of January.
B. Make the Connection Program, Kate – We only received two applications and the total
value of both applications is $90,500. The projects are for the extension of sidewalks in
Washington County near the Municipal Center and sidewalk replacements in
Warrensburg on Hudson Street. Both of these are eligible. There was a discussion
whether it was necessary to put together a committee to review these applications.
A motion was made not to form a selection committee and approve the above projects
pending State DOT review.
MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED
C. Project updates – (new developments only)
1) Warren County, Ed Doughney – Beach Road work is slowing down and work
will start again in early March. Awaiting NEPA approval from Region 1 on
Hicks Road. Hope to have design approval mid January. Hicks is on schedule
and a Spring letting is expected. Crane Mtn. is several weeks behind Hicks.
Lanfear was put out to bid. There was confusion regarding what WC was
looking for and it will be put out to bid again. An RFP for design services went
out for Blair Rd.
2) Washington County, Scott – Rte 16 has preliminary plans and will be
meeting with consultant to go over public information material. County Rte
61 had the bid letting and the bids will be presented to the Supervisors.
Dewey Bridge is delayed until January 10. County Rte. 12 will have a
preconstruction meeting in January.
3) City of Glens Falls – no report
4) Town of Queensbury – no report
5) Saratoga County/Moreau/South Glens Falls – no report
6) NYSDOT, Frank – (handouts) The Route 9 project is on schedule for the
March letting. The 4/149 intersection project has design approval. NYSDOT
will be meeting with a neighboring property owner soon.
The Regional Director’s commitment to the Commissioner to deliver projects
(both State and Local) has been ongoing. All of this (handout material) is
based on a State fiscal year. Almost all the projects we had committed to

Commissioner to be delivered will be delivered within the State fiscal year.
The bad news, listed on the second page, is the local program. The first page
starts out strong. By the end of February the Commissioner has to be
provided with the next fiscal year’s list.
There is only one pot of money to work with now. If preservation wasn’t such
a strong focus late projects would probably be shelved and dealt with at a
later date. The consequences of delayed delivery are much stronger now.
Aaron asked if there was a role for staff to play in the project delivery process
and noted that he had not been copied on routine reports from consultants to
DOT despite a previous request.
C. 2014-19 TIP Development
1) Schedule, Aaron – CDTC is out in front of us again on TIP development. We
did not engage in a region-wide solicitation for new projects. Preliminary
information that has been shared by Region 1 with our office regarding the
setasides and preservation projects (handouts) should help with
understanding what our suballocations are. Compared with previous years,
regional funding proportions are not out of line. By June 29 we need a final
TIP approved by the Policy Committee. We plan on having a draft TIP out for
public review by April.
2) Programming Issues, Frank – The Program has to be in the database by
mid-February. There was some confusion where the numbers originated, how
money was doled out between the Regions. Along with the handouts, Frank
attempted to explain how the total amount of transportation funding available
to DOT was divided up for this programming cycle. The State gets about
$1.6B per year in both State and Federal funds to allocate out to the regions.
In the past a fund source formula was used taking into consideration
population, mileage, etc. DOT sub-allocated to the MPOs. This time, looking
at the chart, 60% of the total funds were given to the Regions based on each
Region’s preservation need as it was modeled by the main office. 10% was
given to each region based on their core needs or their beyond preservation
needs. The rest of the money was distributed with 5% going to the
Commissioner for reserve and the other 25% is for the competition that was
just conducted. Frank reviewed the 2nd page of handout. On January 4th
what will be funded should be announced. The targets that need to be met
for the preservation program (for the first 2 years) is $71 mil only on the
State’s construction program. This does not impact this MPO. As a region (8
counties, state and federal) we get $108 mil total. Of that amount, $90 mil
has to be spent on preservation (includes design, ROW, construction,
inspection). The last page of the handout covers the planning targets. Bridges
are another big complication with determining what funds can be used for
them. Preservation focus has made it more difficult to affect an MPO project
selection process. Frank suggested that the TIP, in addition to the specific
projects submitted to DOT, have blocks that can be solicited and as a group it
can be decided what is funded and what doesn’t get funded.
7. Other Items – A 2013 meeting schedule was distributed.
8. Next Meeting and Adjourn the meeting adjourned at 3:55 pm.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC October 22, 2012
Attendees Agency
Members and Participants
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury
Frank Bonafide NYSDOT
Michael Breault Washington County DPW
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT
Larry Mulvaney NYSDOT
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Michael Valentine Saratoga County Planning

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Kate Mance A/GFTC
Monika Bulman A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron called the meeting to order at 1:35.
2. Visitor Issues – None.
3. MPO Administrative Items Aaron: the outstanding reimbursements have been paid
to the Regional Planning Board. A temporary contract was established and we should be
caught up on State reimbursements.
4. Completed/Ongoing Activities
1) Traffic engineering services, Aaron
a. Dix/Sagamore intersection evaluation. Chazen has developed conceptual
improvements that were presented to the Glens Falls Common Council last
week. Aaron showed the renderings to the Committee. The primary focus of the
study was to determine if a traffic signal was warranted. Traffic volume at the
intersection easily meets multiple signal warrants. The alignment of the Warren
County Bikeway crossing at Dix Avenue was also examined. Chazen came up
with two realignment alternatives; one with and one without a traffic signal. The
City was presented with the option to pursue this as a Make Connection Program
candidate at their discretion.
b. Crandall/Orville intersection. The Chief of Police of the City of Glens Falls
contacted A/GFTC to request a review of crash history at the intersection of
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Crandall and Orville Streets, two blocks south of Sherman Avenue. Both
approaches are narrow and sight distance is limited. Most recently, a house was
struck by a car as a result of a two-car collision. The Chief wondered what kind
of traffic solutions might be available. Chazen will undertake this study as one
of A/GFTC’s on-call engineering services.
c. Street and subdivisions standards review. A summation of the review was
just presented last week by Chazen. Warrensburg has reviewed the first draft.
A copy of the summation will be given to Jeff Tennyson.
2) Bicycle map – Kate – The map has been sent to the printer; 15,000 copies
have been ordered.
3) Long Range Plan 2035 survey -Kate – As of today, 102 completed surveys have
been received. The majority of the responses have been online but we are
getting some paper copies also. The surveys were distributed to County
buildings and a mailing with surveys for display/distribution went out to all
Towns and Villages.
Jeff Tennyson – regarding outreach, there are a few organized groups that have
specific concerns regarding transportation and the survey would be heavily
weighted toward those groups. The suggestion was made to get the survey to
bus garages and bus drivers (school and Transit).
Scott Sopczyk – suggested using the phone to solicit survey response. A/GFTC
will look into the possibility of phone solicitation.
4) Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan. Kate – On September 25th
the kick-off meeting was held. The meeting was well attended and there was
good feedback. The group will meet every other month.
5) Countywide accident analyses. Kate – This is ongoing. The accident data from
the State web site has been down loaded. We have the counts from
Washington County but still need them from Warren County.
Aaron – Going back to Traffic Engineering Services, the contracts lapsed this
year, but we are in the process of resoliciting for consultant participation. The
applications should be in our hands shortly and will be reviewed internally.
We are working on a crossing guard location evaluation for the Chief of Police for
the City of Glens Falls to help the City determine if the crossing guard
budget is being used to the best possible extent. Staff has taken on this project
and the Glens Falls Hospital Creating Healthy Places to Live, Work and Play
program will assist with the data collection.
5. Transit
A. GGFT Update: Scott Sopczyk – Took delivery of two paratransit vehicles about a
month ago. The trolley season is over. It was a strong season in terms of
ridership and exceeded last year’s numbers. Scott will be re-evaluating the night
service that runs basically as a take home service for people who are working
and need to get back home. GGFT just finished up with the Special Olympics and
some other special events going on in the City.
B. 5316/17 solicitation. Aaron is still waiting for solicitation instructions from DOT.

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6. TIP
A. Make the Connection Program Solicitation. Aaron – Kate has revised the
solicitation and some draft copies are available. Would like to get the solicitation out
next week. We are doing away with partial funding for projects. If a project sponsor
has multiple elements of a proposal, we should receive separate applications. A
score sheet will be available to project sponsors also.
B. Amendments and Modifications
1) Bridge Project Scope Changes – 197/Hudson, 28N/Hudson- Aaron – We
did receive the requisite votes from the Policy Committee to approve the
NYSDOT’s TIP amendment requests for downscoping the Route 197 bridge
over the Hudson and the Route 28N bridge over the Hudson to rehabilitations.
C. NYSDOT TIP/STIP Programming Instructions- Aaron – We can expect that the new
TIP is not going to look like the old TIP with regard to the type of projects that we
are carrying within it. There have been changes to federal funding eligibilities with
regard to respective programs. The state is the fiscal agent for the Federal Highway
Program within the state of NY so the responsibility for developing programming
criteria largely falls upon them. They have issued the guidance which has been
circulated to and discussion items that have been assembled with illustrations of
types of capital projects that constitute preservation work. Handouts were
distributed.
Frank Bonafide – Under normal circumstances our program update is labor intensive
and sometimes complicated, but now we have a new federal act and a program that
is going into an entirely new direction. Funding limitations are such that the choice
becomes doing one big project or many small projects. Preservation is the preferred
strategy. As we begin this TIP update we are asking that on the local side the same
tact is taken…preservation. Mary Anne Mariotti will be working with everyone to
identify preservation candidates.
Frank reviewed the a Programming Criteria handout. The last four years of the
upcoming TIP will have significantly reduced funding. There will be approximately
$116M available for the Region as a whole. The formulas now in use focus on
preservation need and the planning target is based on those needs. Within the dollar
amounts, 60% was taken and distributed to the Regions for preservation, 10% of
total amount went to the Regions for core projects (bridge replacement), 25% of
total amount is being held aside for Statewide Priority Program; if the project is
beyond preservation and is a competitive candidate (would rank well statewide), the
Region will work with sponsors to prepare applications. The deadline is November 9
The region has a cap of $179M for submissions. Region 1 staff is working to
assemble State and local candidates for the new programs.
MAP-21 created the National Highway Performance Program and that includes all the
funds that used to go to interstate maintenance, NHS and HBRR. Bridges funded
under this program must now be part of the federal aid – eligible roadway system.,
This is the biggest issue. 15% of the 2009 HBRR funds were set aside for an
STP off-system bridge fund. That results in only about 3.5 million dollars a year for
the entire region, with 1.6 million dollars going towards off-system bridge
inspection costs. Changes in CMAQ do not impact A/GFTC too adversely.
State funds are being reduced; this will result in NYSDOT pursuing more federal
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It is imperative that project sponsors deliver their existing projects that are
programmed for obligation prior to September 30, 2014. If you have a project on the
TIP that has not received approval of a BP-1 submission yet, the project can be
progressed forward but Marchiselli should not be expected. This will increase the
requisite local match from 5% to 20%.
Other discussion focused on the content of the distributed handouts.
D. Project Updates – (new developments only)
1) Warren County – Kevin Hajos – Hicks Road and Crane Mountain have
both been temporarily delayed because of FHWA review. Federal
authorization for the State-owned section of Beach Road has
been granted.
2) Washington County, Scott Tracy – Truthville Bridge bids came in under
estimate.
3) City of Glens Falls – no report
4) Town of Queensbury, Stu Baker – Aviation Road, letting is anticipated
for 2014
5) Saratoga County/Moreau/South Glens Falls – Mike Valentine asked
about Rte 9 paving project paving. It will begin in Spring 2013.
6) NYSDOT, Frank Bonafide – Rte 4 in Hudson Falls has been let.
7. Other Items – Aaron brought up for discussion the possibility of the TAC
meeting every other month, what day and time of day works best
for committee members. He will get back to members with the
results.
Creighton Manning Engineering has been selected from the on-call
program to conduct pavement scoring.
There are now 14 MPOs (Watertown is the 14th) competing for
funding. Due to PL increases in MAP-21, our MPO will get a small
increase in funding.
8. Adjournment – Mike Valentine made a motion to adjourn at 3:25

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC November 16, 2011
Attendees Agency

Members and Participants
Brian Abare South Glens Falls DPW
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury
Edward Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Frank Bonafide NYSDOT
Robert Cherry NYSDOT
Kar en Hulihan NYSDOT
Edward Doughney Warren County DPW
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Michael Breault Washington County DPW
Michael Valentine Saratoga County Planning
Steve Sweeney NYS Canal Corporation

Staff
Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Kate Mance A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome and Introductions : Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at
1:31.

2. Visitor Issues: None present

3. NYSDOT Forward Four Initiative
A. Introduction : Aaron noted that all members of the Technical Advisory
Committee and the Policy Committee should have received letters from
the DOT Commissioner outlining the “Forward Four” policy, and that DOT
staff would go into greater detail concerning the contents of the l etter.
Frank Bonafide explained that the idea is to emphasize transportation
programming in a way that emphasizes preservation. This new Forward
Four policy includes four criteria: preserving the existing infrastructure,
prioritizing systems over facilitie s, maximizing of investment, and
sustainability. Safety is still a key concept, and the MPO and DOT need to
work together to decide what the priorities for the system are. He
introduced Rick Bennett and Tom Hoffman to explain the pavement
preservation and bridge preservation strategies.
B. Pavement Preservation Strategy : Rick Bennett presented a PowerPoint
show about the pavement preservation system. He explained that the goal
is preservation first, not preservation only. This system is based on
pavement scoring, and DOT will be reaching out to MPOs to implement a
statewide system. This pavement score data can be simply collected and
does not require expensive “e -score” equipment . The goal of the program
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is to enable preventative maintenance to prolong the life of pavement
using mainly non -structural means. A key criteria is to select a treatment
based on the “window of opportunity”, which is determined by the
pavement score and the length of time a facility has been in that
condition. The DOT system is designe d to keep pavements at pavement
score 7 or higher. Once a pavement degrades below that condition, the
cost of repair rises exponentially. Using this strategy, a system can be
maintained for the same length of time with better than average condition
at a mu ch lower cost than versus a “worst first” strategy. In addition,
projects will be prioritized based on cost effectiveness in terms of $/VMT.
In the last round of prioritization, DOT Main Office did not always have
enough information for local system conditions. In future rounds, Rick
stressed that the BP (Beyond Preservation) forms should address
pavement condition and maintenance history, project timing, cost
effectiveness, and any other program justif ication, such as safety. Kevin
Hajos noted that Warren County already has a similar pavement str ategy
in place. Scott Tracy noted that Washington County has pavement
condition data which can be transmitted to DOT. Aaron noted that A/GFTC
collects pavement condition data, although it will take a few years to get
enough data to compile historic trends.
C. Bridge Preservation Strategy : Tom Hoffman presented a PowerPoint show
about the D OT strategy concerning bridges, which is a “maintenance first”
strategy. The goal is to avoid deferring maintenance, and then to do
reconstruction projects at the end of the bridge’s life. This is geared
towards bridges with condition ratings of 4.4 or less. An important
component is to focus projects only on the elements which ne ed to be
addressed, and not including things such as lights or decorative elements
if possible. In the long run, it will be cheaper to maintain a bridge properly
than to reconstruct a bridge prematurely. The DOT is pursuing “5-7”
projects, which are elemen t- specific improvements designed to bring a
deficient bridge to a condition rating between 5 – 7. Other project types
include painting, concrete repair, joint repair, cleaning, and wearing
surface maintenance. Investigation is an important part of this str ategy.
Tom showed several examples of bridge projects from the Region which
successfully implemented the bridge maintenance strategy. Frank noted
that another important consideration is to try to prevent the scope of
projects from increasing. Kevin stated that Warren County already uses its
own budget and labor to comp lete projects that fulfill the Forward Four
principles, and that federal funds have historically been used to complete
projects which cannot be completed in -house. Frank encouraged the
County to find ways to shift some of the preservation -type projects to the
TIP, which will make it easier to qualify for Marchiselli funds while
simultaneously freeing up some of the local funding for larger projects. To
keep preservation projects financially fea sible when using federal funding,
Frank recommends bundling smaller projects on a county -wide basis.
Aaron noted that the challenge has historically been to explain to the local
residents the reasoning behind using resources on bridges which are
functional ly obsolete, but are not yet at the end of the facility life.

4. MPO Administrative Items
A. Federal legislation update: Aaron stated that there is not much to report;
the House and Senate named conferees in April to negotiate a
compromise with their respective transportation bills. Discussions appear
to have stalled, with talks of another extension circulating; the current
extension expires at the end of June. This lack of availability of funding

estimates will undoubtedly make the TIP programming more challenging.
Funding is most likely to be flat -lined at best.
B. Host Agency agreement : Aaron stated that the Host Agency contracts
have not been approved by NYSDOT. This is not unique to A/GFTC; all but
one MPO in NYS are experiencing the same delay. Despite having been
transmitted to NYSDOT approximately 4 months ahead of the expiration of
the exsiting contract , the new contracts have still not been moved out of
NYSDOT and review from the Attorney General and OSC is still pending.
These layers of review are require d before reimbursement can take place.
What is unique to A/GFTC is that our March reimbursements were
mishandled and our host has not been paid for our expenses. The host
agency is not in a position to float payments in the long term. Delayed
vendor payments have resulted and are likely to continue.

5. Annual Work Program
A. Completed / Ongoing Activities
1) Queensbury commercial / industrial access road : Aaron reported
that the study has been transmitted to the Warren County Board of
Supervisors as a final d ocument.
2) Warren County Bicycling Master Plan : Kate Mance noted that, since
the last TAC meeting, all comments had been addressed, and the
Board of Supervisors approved the plan in April. The plan is
available online. The companion effort to the plan is re visions to
the A/GFTC bike map. The regional map side has been expanded to
include Granville and Lake Luzerne to encompass trails and
des ignated bicycle routes which were not included on the existing
map.
3) Traffic engineering services
1. Signal warrant analysis – Bay / Cronin: Aaron noted that
the s tudy is complete. Kevin reported that there were three
alternatives identified by Creighton Manning Engineering .
The first is to change striping along Bay Road to provide
shared through -right lanes and separate l eft turn lanes, the
second would be to restrict l eft turns from Cronin with a
rais ed median , and the third step will be to signalize the
intersection. The County will start with the first scenario,
then wait a year to see if conditions improve. If not, the
second and possibly third options will be deployed. Aaron
not ed that the signal option, as well as a conceptual
round about, were less cost effective than the recommended
alternative.
2. GFSD circulation issues – Aaron reported that a draft of the
Glens Falls School Circulation study has been completed by
Resource Syste ms Group, reviewed by District staff , and
presented to the Glens Falls School Board for review . The
report includes an estimate of anticipated traffic resulting
from the alignment of high school and middle school start
times , and recommended strategies to deal with the
increase in peak traffic. It is not anticipated that the School
Board review will result in significant changes to the
document. Some of the recommendations include
expanding the drop -off area, changing the location of on-
street parking along Sherman, encouraging counter-
clockwise circulation, and adding incentives to bike, walk, or
ride the bus to school.

3. Dix / Sagamore intersection evaluation : Aaron reported
that, similar to the Bay/Cronin project, A/GFTC initiated an
intersection evaluation at the request of the City of Glens
Falls . The City had requested a signal warrant analysis but
staff added an evaluation of the adjacent bikeway
intersection as part of the scope. This may help to address
some of the undesirable traffic operations at the bikeway
crossing . The Chazen Companies has initiated data
collection and Aaron will discuss with City officials at the
Common Council meeting of June 12 what they would like
by way of public involvement. The project should take about
3 months, and will i nclude a signal warrant and timing plan,
conceptual costs, and potential re -alignment of the bikeway
at the intersection.
4) Long Range Plan 2035 update – Aaron noted that staff will soon be
engaged with public outreach as part of the 2035 Long Range Plan
update. We will be reconsidering our advertising and surveying
methods as well as looking to use of online community forums. The
content of the survey could also stand for some revision. Kate is
working on exploring digital survey methods to facilitate greater
involvement. We would appreciate any assistance from interested
committee members. Staff is also exploring creating an online
interactive forum or social media outlet for this outreach effort.
5) Coor dinated Human Services Transportation Plan update – Kate
noted that, since the last TAC meeting, targeted stakeholder
outreach was conducted through an online survey and two open
houses. The feedback received was very helpful. The draft was
circulated to s takeholders, the TAC, and DOT, and comments were
received and incorporated. The final draft went through a public
review process as well and was noticed in the paper and posted
online. Staff received many comments which were outside of the
scope of the upd ate; however, these comments will create a strong
basis for the mobility management plan in the UPWP. Aaron noted
that he and S cott Sopczyk attended a Tompkins Co unty
Coordinated Public Transportation Committee meeting and met
with Dwight Mengel and Fernan do deAragon. They have had some
success in the Ithaca area in implementing service coordination ,
including pre -soliciting for FTA -eligible projects . A/GFTC will focus
on restart ing the Coordinated Services committee and build on
some of the ideas that were shared, with the goal of drafting a
mobility management plan with either Washington or Warren
County, depending upon interest. Scott noted that public
participation in the Coordinated Services committee has been a
challenge. Jocelyn Blanchard, representin g the Long Term Care
Council of Warren, Was hington, and Hamilton Counties, expressed
appreciation for the work which was done on the CHSTP and stated
that she is looking forward to working with A/GFTC on future
mobility management efforts.
6) Model Highway Design Standards – The CHPLWP and Chazen have
engaged a number of local communities with the goal of having
those communities develop Complete Streets policies. Staff has
decided to supplement that effort by offering professional services
thr ough the on- call contract. Chazen Companies and staff will
review existing municipal street and subdivision standards and
propose revisions to those in accordance with Complete Streets

principles; the cost of this effort is $4500. The first “pilot” of this
will most lik ely be the Town of Warrensburg , since they are already
engaged in related planning efforts . The goal is to develop policy
revisions that are readily adapted by other communities. Kate
noted that there is a companion Complete Streets effort underway
in Wash ington County, and that a similar presentation will be made
in Kingsbury on June 13th.

6. Transit Update: Scott Sopczyk noted that GGFT is gearing up for summer. There
are two new vehicles ordered, which should arrive in early July. There are some
possible operational changes in the works for the fall. GGFT updated their website
to be mobile -phone friendly, and added QR codes to route maps .

7. TIP
A. Amendments and Modifications
1) GGFT facility improvement : Scott Sopczyk reported that the GGFT
building, originally built in 1989, now needs a roof replacemen t. As
such, he is requesting a TIP amendment for a capital project, using
FTA 5307 funds, to enable repairs. The cost estimate from the
architect came in at $6/s.f. This amendment will not require the
movement or transfer of funds from other sources, it simply places
the project on the TIP. Aaron called for a motion to approve the
requested amendment.
MOTION – BONAFIDE SECOND – VALENTINE APPROVED
2) NYSDOT Bridge Projects – North Creek and Fort Edward : Aaron
reported that DOT had forwarded two requests to downscope the
Route 28N in North Creek and Route 197 West Branch in Fort
Edward brid ge projects to rehabilitations rather than replacements .
These projects may be somewhat c ontroversial, especially the
Route 197 bridge, given past public opposition to a similar project
on the East Branch. In addition, the Town and Village are working
on Brownfield Opportunity Area planning studies, which
recommend replacement of the Route 197 bridges to allow greater
access. Since there was no representation of affected parties at the
meeting, and given that the requests were received so close to the
meeting, Aaron recommended that the TAC not take up these
issues until the DOT reaches out to the communities. These
amendments will also require Policy C ommittee approval.
B. Project updates
1) Warren County . Ed Doughney reported the following project
updates: i. Beach Road: Kubricky construction won the bid and will
begin construction on the east segment this year, and the
west next year. Scott Sopczyk asked w heth er West Brook
Road will become a two way street; Kevin Hajos said that it
would, as soon as National Grid moves utility poles,
probably by the end of this month.
ii. Hicks Road: The Draft Design Repor t (DDR) was submitted,
and the consultant is currently responding to comments and
addressing SHPO concerns.
iii. Lanfear R oad: This project is an element -specific bridge
project with several components. PS&E has been submitted,
with letting anticipated in the next few months.
iv. Crane Mountain Road: Comments have been received on
the DDR. Public outreach was completed through mailers to

all affected residents. The Final Design Report (FDR) is
anticipated to be complete in 2-4 weeks.
v. Palisades Road: This is anothe r element-specific bridge
project. Recent issues have been identified with one of the
wingwalls. The project is on hold until these issues can be
resolved.
vi. Make the Connection (2011): County is finalizing
agreements with DOT, and anticipates construction of the
project in summer/fall.
vii. Valley Road: The County has finalized the consultant
agreement with CME.
viii. Blair Road: This is scoped for a replacement, which may
change. The RFP is anticipated to go out this summer.
ix. Middelton Bridge: This project is still in flux, as discussions
with DEC are ongoing.
2) Washington County : Scott Tracy reported on the following projects:
i. County Route 16 over Halfway Brook: Federal authorization
has been received.
ii. County Route 12 over the Mettowee: PS&E is anticipated by
the end of July, with a bid letting in September.
iii. County Route 61 over Battenkill: Right of Way purchase is
anticipated by end of June. Utility work is being scheduled,
with bid letting anticipated at end of August.
iv. Dewey’s Bridge: D esign Approval has been submitted, and
bid letting is slated for the end of September.
v. Karen Hulihan asked about the status of the County Route
21 safety assessment project. Scott noted that he has no
information, as he needs to talk to the Town Supervisor.
3) City of Glens Falls : No report available .
4) Town of Queensbury : Aaron noted that the Town is procuring
design services for the Aviation/Dixon Road intersection.
5) Saratoga County / Moreau / South Glens Falls : Mike Valentine
noted that they are still waiting for updates on the Route 9 safety
project.
6) NYSDOT Frank reported that the Route 29 over Black Creek bridge
is due for letting in June, with anticipated completion date in 2013.
The Route 9/Feeder Dam proj ect is set for a letting date of March
2013, and there may be a public meeting scheduled for this project
next week. Aaron noted that there has been no word from DOT on
the meeting and requested clarification. [Note: the public meeting
has not been schedul ed]. The Route 4 project is in PS&E, with an
October letting. This is the only road reconstruction project in
Region 1.
C. Capital programming issues
1) Project delivery : Frank stated that everyone should have recei ved
a letter from the Region 1 D irector. This specified that the entire
Region 1 program would be carried out on time and within budget.
DOT wants to make sure that everyone understands that going
outside of the schedule/budget which is submitted to DOT is not
acceptable. DOT staff went through the sch edules with all project
sponsors to try to get everything as accurate as possible. Frank
would like to propose that all consultants get project sponsor sign –
off on schedules and project updates before submitting them to
DOT.

2) Next TIP update : Aaron reported that without federal legislation,
there is no way to know for sure how much funding will be in the
next TIP. It is anticipated that tentative suballocation estimates will
be available by July 1.

8. Other Items

9. Next m eeting and adjourn : Aaron noted that the next meeting will be in the first
or second week in August, and asked for a motion to adjourn.

MOTION: STEVE SWEENEY SECOND: FRANK BONAFIDE MEETING
ADJOURNED

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Attendance:
Members:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Frank Bonafide, NYSDOT Reg. 1 (rep. Mary Ivey)
Dennis Dickinson, Supervisor, Town of Lake George
Mitch Suprenant, Supervisor, Town of Ford Edward
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Michael Loftus)
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Thomas Wood)
Others
:
Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT

A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Kate Mance, Senior Transportation Planner

1. Welcome & Introductions
Chairman Mitch Suprenant called the meeting to order at 1:37.

2. Visitors Issues – None

3. Administrative Items
A. Committee representation update (Aaron): Chairmanship of the
transportation council rotates between our two full counties every two
years. Washington County is now in the position to chair the Council, and
Washington County Board of Supervisors Chairman John Rymph has
appointed Mitch Suprenant, Supervisor of the Town of Fort Edward, to chair
the Council for the next two years. Chairman Dan Stec of Warren County
has appointed Ralph Bentley of Horicon to serve as Vice-Chair. Dennis
Dickinson was welcomed as the new Supervisor of Lake George. In
addition, John LaPointe, Supervisor of the Town of Putnam, is now
Chairman of the LC-LGRPB. Washington County also appointed Supervisor
Bob Shay of White Creek to be the designated rural representative.
B. Host Agency agreement (Aaron): The Lake Champlain – Lake George
Regional Planning Board is the host agency for A/GFTC; host agencies are
required for all Metropolitan Planning Organizations in New York State.
They provide administrative and payroll support as well as first instance
funding for A/GFTC expenses. After consideration of the existing
arrangement and other options, the TAC decided to renew the contract
between A/GFTC and the LC-LGRPB for a term of ten years.
C. Federal reauthorization (Aaron): There are competing Senate and House
reauthorization bills, although the House bill appears to have stalled. At
this point, the Senate bill is the one more likely to move forward. The bill is
a two-year bill programmed at $109 billion, which is roughly level funding.
There is still a possibility that there will be another extension of current
transportation legislation. There is a lot of emphasis within the bill on
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consolidating federal programs, such as the National Highway System,
Interstate Maintenance and the Highway Bridge Programs, into a single
program that is dedicated to improvements on National Highway System
facilities. The Surface Transportation Program has been renamed the
Transportation Mobility Program and is applicable to non-NHS facilities.
Transportation Enhancements and Safe Routes to School have been
eliminated as programs, although those types of projects remain eligible
for funding. There is a lot of language dedicated to performance measures,
which are likely to be handed down from USDOT, in a somewhat less
iterative process than under the House bill. As an organization, A/GFTC is
most concerned about the tiering system proposed under the Senate Bill.
As noted previously, existing MPOs like A/GFTC, which are under the new
200,000 population threshold for MPOs, would require re-designation by
the Governor and USDOT, the latter of which would depend upon our
ability to meet technical capacity requirements which have yet to be
identified. The House bill did include a provision to grandfather smaller
MPOs. There was a similar amendment to the Senate bill, although it is
unclear whether it was considered. There is concern at the staff level that
the performance measures are being designed with the elimination of small
MPOs in mind. Staff is confident that it has the technical compentency and
flexibility to meet any reasonable requirements. A/GFTC’s data collection
capabilities are better than some other small MPOs, for example. In
addition, the NYSMPO Association fosters a lot of capacity-building and
information exchange among the agencies that benefit NYS MPOs. In terms
of local impacts, eliminating MPO representation will likely make it more
difficult for local project sponsors to have their needs articulated. If the
proposed legislation passes, there will be ample time to make a case for
A/GFTC to be re-designated. Mike Valentine asked for additional
information concerning A/GFTC’s capabilities as compared to other MPOs.
Aaron cited travel demand modeling and the in-house pavement scoring
system as two examples. A/GFTC can respond quickly to new performance
measures once they are issued. In addition, there is the financial capacity
to add staff if needed to address technical requirements. Ultimately, the
certification will come from the Secretary of USDOT.

4. Annual Work Program
D. Completed and ongoing staff and consultant activities (Aaron):
Completed and on-going projects:

• The Queensbury connector road study is being finalized. The study
examined existing traffic conditions in and around the airport and
evaluated the feasibility of the potential construction of a new
connector road between Quaker Road and Queensbury Avenue.
Future developments and growth assumptions were considered. The
study concludes that the transportation system benefits associated
with the new road are limited, and as such a new roadway would be
largely a development-driven project. Significant benefits could be
achieved from upgrading the existing system, notably with a signal
timing improvement at the Quaker / Dix intersection. The
consultant is preparing a memo that details the recommended
change, which can be forwarded to the responsible municipalities.
Wayne LaMothe noted that this has been an ongoing issue and that
the existing system of coordinated signals is not being maintained
properly. He asked what steps can be taken to ensure that the

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signals are maintained in the future. Aaron stated that he had
looked into establishing some sort of signal maintenance setaside to
help address the needs for locally-operated equipment. There are
two clusters of time-based coordinated signals along Quaker Road.
Additionally, the only non-state-owned signals in the A/GFTC area
are within the Town of Queensbury and the City of Glens Falls, so
there should be a manageable way to maintain these facilities.
Currently they are being maintained by City staff, either directly or
through an agreement with the Town. Wayne noted that there was
an older study regarding signal timing. Aaron noted that the issue
with this study is that it was conducted many years ago, and there
is concern at the County DPW that the data may no longer be
relevant. It is not clear whether this setaside would be eligible for
PL funds, or how much such a program would cost. Scott Sopczyk
noted that several years ago there was an idea to swap
maintenance between NYS Route 8 and Quaker Road, which might
present an opportunity to ensure better maintenance.
• Staff completed an initial traffic assessment for the Warren-
Washington IDA in November, as part of the permitting
requirements for NYS Shovel Ready designation. The IDA indicated
that it would not be interested in consultant-based assistance, so
the study was completed in-house at no cost to the IDA by drawing
heavily upon available data. The study concluded that the growth
potential of Phase II of the Airport Industrial Park was not
significant enough to substantially impact the surrounding
transportation system.
• A/GFTC used the on-call engineering assistance agreement on
behalf of GGFT to facilitate a pavement marking re-design for
GGFT’s main terminal in downtown Glens Falls. The design provided
better delineation between space needed for operations of transit
vehicles and on-street parking spaces. Use of the contract enabled
the quick implementation of the project.
• The Glens Falls Residential Traffic Calming project was completed in
October. This was in response to residents’ concerns regarding
speeding vehicles. The study included a speed survey conducted
with residents and volunteers to determine a passing vehicle speed
that residents were comfortable with. This was found to be a couple
miles an hour lower than the posted speed limit. The study also
evaluated the effectiveness of low-cost pavement marking
alternatives designed to influence speeds downward. The striping
deployment was shown to be ineffective in reducing speeds,
although mobile speed feedback signs were found to be effective.
• A/GFTC recently completed the solicitation for our Make the
Connection Program for small-scale bicycle and pedestrian projects.
Full or partial funding was awarded to 7 out 9 projects sponsored by
the following municipalities: Warren County (3 of 4 County
applications were awarded), Village of Fort Edward, Town of
Johnsburg, Village of Salem, and Town of Warrensburg.

Nearly completed projects:

• The Warren County Bicycle Plan has been drafted and presented to
the Warren County DPW committee for their consideration. The
committee asked for time to review the plan, which can be finalized
once any comments are received.

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• The Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan (CHSTP) is
also under production. An update has been presented to the public
via two open houses held on March 13 in Warren and Washington
Counties, and is currently undergoing review and revision based on
comments received.

Underway:

• A draft of the safety evaluation for the Bay and Cronin intersection
was delivered to A/GFTC staff yesterday. It will be jointly reviewed
by A/GFTC and Warren County DPW staff prior to a presentation by
the consultant team to the DPW committee at an upcoming
meeting. The study is looking at a variety of alternatives in addition
to a traffic signal.
• A draft of the school circulation study for the City of Glens Falls is
expected this week. That study is intended to address some of the
circulation issues that are occurring during pick-up and drop-off.
The study is also part of an evaluation by the school district into
aligning start times for the middle and high school, which are
currently staggered. Having one start time for both could create a
larger number of vehicles at once. The study involves physical and
policy alternatives.
• Our ridesharing match program, ipoolnorth, was recently updated.
We will re-commit to our promotional efforts to recruit new users.
• A/GFTC will continue to work on keeping the TIP up-to-date, and
staff remains available to provide transportation-related technical
assistance to our member municipalities. A/GFTC had been
indirectly tasked with assisting with County Planning Board Section
239 referrals. However, this was a temporary arrangement and the
responsibility will now be handled by Warren County staff. Wayne
LaMothe expressed thanks on behalf of the County in undertaking
the reviews, because it allowed for projects to move forward
through the review process while the requisite local law was being
adopted.

E. 2012-13 UPWP
1) Aaron reviewed the financial summary, which was reviewed by the
TAC as well. For 2012-13, A/GFTC has been allocated $327,712 in
FHWA Planning funds as well as $43,670 in FTA MPP funds. That
represents the “new” money coming in. The remaining $373,381
is made up of state and local in-kind match and program
carryovers from previous years. The increase $86,000 in available
dollars for this year is attributable to a bigger carryover. There is
also extra $15,000 in FHWA PL that represents a smaller
takedown in PL for statewide shared cost initiatives than had been
subtracted in the prior year. A/GFTC will not spend all of the total
$745,000, and will probably spend less than half that amount.
However, our practice has been to program as much of the
carryover as possible. The funds listed on the summary do not
account for carryover from the immediate year prior, as those
funds have not yet been confirmed by FHWA as being available.
2) Task summary (Aaron): Tasks are broken up into four categories:
administration, general development and comprehensive planning,
long-range planning, and Transportation Improvement Program.

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• Administration typically includes payroll, billing, certification and
compliance documentation and work program development and
does not change significantly from year-to-year.
• Task 2 is most of our ongoing activities, including data
collection, public participation and outreach, promotion of
alternative transportation options, and technical assistance to
municipalities. New tasks for 2012-13 include an update to our
county-wide accident tallies for off-system roadways. We last
completed this in 2003-2004, and County staff has stated that
the summaries were very useful. There may be a need for staff
training on the accident-reporting software used by NYSDOT.
New project proposals for the on-call engineering assistance
program will be entertained by staff and the Technical Advisory
Committee as warranted.
• For Task 3, we plan to initiate the Long Range Plan update,
which is a core document required for all MPOs. This is due in
2014, but since there is a significant amount of work involved,
staff will begin this effort this year. Also, the LRP will contain
some longer-term traffic forecasts using our recently updated
travel demand model.
• Task 3 also includes a regional mobility management plan, which
is a recommendation from the CHSTP. One of the main
comments that is presented most often to staff is that people in
the outlying rural areas lack transportation options. This will
likely be a consultant-assisted project. This plan will attempt to
identify a potential model for coordinating human services
transportation throughout the region.
• Also included is an update to our area-wide Bicycle and
Pedestrian Plan. This would fold in the Warren County Plan, as
well as a similar plan in Washington County, as there is some
interest in a bike plan for that area as well. The regional bike
plan produced by the MPO is now over 10 years old.
• Task 3.6 is the Climate Change Adaptation Planning, which
would look to identify and assessments of transportation
infrastructure that is potentially vulnerable to increased
frequency and severity of weather events. This is a labor-
intensive process which will be driven by interest of the local
municipalities in participation.
• A/GFTC is expected to prepare a TIP sometime this fall, as the
STIP expires this year. The funding levels are still unknown. We
are behind one year in TIP cycle at the behest of NYSDOT; they
were unwilling to provide regional allocations due to uncertain
funding availability. Since the STIP is expiring, the TIP must be
updated.

A motion was made to approve the 2012-2013 A/GFTC UPWP.

MOVED BY: Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION
CARRIED

5. Greater Glens Falls Transit Update (Scott Sopczyk): 2011 was a very strong year
for GGFT, with over 340,000 riders, the largest total in the history of the system. So
far for 2012, ridership is over 7% higher than last year. Some of this may be

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related to the cost of fuel or the mild weather. The Capital Plan is in good shape,
with the planned replacement of the paratransit buses scheduled for the summer.
The schedule changes that were implemented last year as part of the Transit
Development Plan recommendations seem to have increased ridership and were
well received. For example, at Adirondack Community College, prior to the schedule
update, sales of monthly passes were around 12 per month. Now, the sales are
around 50 per month. This doesn’t count increases in students riding the bus and
paying cash. GGFT also met with the Dean to discuss the construction of the new
dorms and what types of transportation demand that may create. Financially, State
and Federal resources have been managed well – the availability of necessary
Federal funds appears to be sufficient at this time. Operating costs and the overall
budget could be substantially impacted by a significant rise in fuel costs. Service
planning for the summer is almost completed. Dennis Dickinson asked whether
service ran during Americade, and noted that he had heard from a business owner
interested in discussing services. Scott agreed to follow up.

6. TIP
A. Project Updates (Aaron): There is no direct representation from the DPW
staff of Warren or Washington Counties present. However, DPW staff did
give a comprehensive update at February’s TAC meeting, so if anyone is
interested in those updates and does not have access to the meeting
minutes, A/GFTC can supply them.
1) Warren County: Ralph Bentley noted that the replacement of the
Middleton Bridge over the Schroon River, which had previously been in
a stalemate with DEC, is now moving forward under an agreement with
the Governor and DEC. This is a very important bridge for access to
residents of Horicon and Chester.
2) Washington County: No report.
3) Saratoga County (Mike Valentine) We are continuing to work with
DOT on the Route 9 safety project in South Glens Falls. Capacity and
parking issues are being considered. The Village is also looking to
implement infrastructure improvements concurrently with the highway
project. Frank Bonafide noted that the DOT project is not a
reconstruction project and that subsurface infrastructure work will likely
delay the project.
4) NYSDOT (Frank Bonafide): In terms of project updates, Route 29
bridge over Black Creek in Salem is moving forward, with a spring
letting. Route 4 in Hudson Falls is moving forward with a summer
letting, and DOT has been working with the Village for the sewer
infrastructure betterment. The Route 9 safety project (SGF) discussed
previously is moving forward, with a tentative fall 2012 letting.
However, construction is more likely to occur in 2013, assuming that
the infrastructure issues can be worked out. Aaron noted that this delay
may be advantageous to the Village as it gives them time to work out
the infrastructure issues. Frank noted that DOT is flexible in terms of
the timing. The Route 197 Bridge over the Hudson is on track to be let
in summer 2013, as is the Route 4 Bridge over the Champlain. Route
28N over the Upper Hudson RR in Johnsburg is on track to be let in
fall/winter 2013. Frank thanked the Committee for endorsing the STIP
listings for the Accelerated Transportation Programs. The Governor’s
proposed budget includes numerous items that impact DOT, including
the proposal to create jobs and address infrastructure needs through
the “NY Works” program. The project listings include $250 million
statewide for paving, $212 million statewide for bridges, and $750

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million for signature projects. The recent action was for the bridge and
pavement preservation work. Once the budget is approved, the goal is
to release projects for bid in April and May. The list of projects will not
be released until the budget is passed. The list was generated at the
Regional level based on DOT’s assessment of priorities. Most of the
projects are preservation-oriented and involve thin pavement overlays
or deck replacements on bridges – projects which will be quick to
commence and complete. The goal is to address 2,000 lane miles and
over 100 bridges statewide. As part of this, the Region will get a large
influx of funding in addition to their core program. This will go to
projects that are needed but could not have been afforded otherwise.
DOT is borrowing ahead to accomplish this, but it appears that federal
funding will be level; local projects should therefore not be affected.
Mike Valentine asked who bears the cost of interest associated with
bonding, and Frank noted that he would need to look into that. The
current plan would put DOT three years into the future with regard to
borrowing, which is aggressive in terms of DOT practice but is
conservative compared to other Departments across the country. Mike
asked if the costs will be carried into the TIP, and Frank and Aaron
noted that it will not affect the TIP. Mike asked whether this accelerated
program will push a project through faster than expected. Frank noted
that these are mostly new projects, in addition to DOT’s core program.
Frank also reported on the consolidation efforts in the Governor’s
budget. The current proposal is to consolidate the DOT into six regions
from eleven. In addition, Region 1 is moving as part of the “re-
stacking” effort, and will be co-located with DOT Main Office at 50 Wolf
Road. The move is taking place in April. Regional personnel may be out
of touch by phone for a few weeks, but email should be a good way to
contact DOT.
B. Amendments and Modifications (Aaron): There were none.

7. Other Items: Wayne LaMothe noted that Warren County is finishing a re-designation
of the old Dude Ranch Scenic Byway as the First Wilderness Scenic Byway. This was
initiated by ANCA (Adirondack North Country Association), and the plan is almost
ready to go to DOT for comment. The hope is that the branding completed for the
First Wilderness Heritage Corridor can be included on signage along the byway. The
alignment is being extended south to Corinth and north to Chestertown. The Dude
Ranch was never formally designated, so having a formal designation for the First
Wilderness will open up a funding stream, assuming the scenic byway program is
kept.

8. Next meeting and adjourn (Aaron): The next meeting will be in mid-August. It may
be possible to coordinate the meeting with the Adirondack Gateway Council, since
there is a large overlap of membership. If there are any schedule conflicts, please
contact Aaron.

A motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 2:38 PM.
MOVED BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC February 2, 2012
Attendees Agency
Members
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls
Stuart Baker Town of Queensbury Community Development
Edward Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Frank Bonafide NYSDOT-Region 1
Robert Cherry NYSDOT-Region 1
Edward Doughney Warren County DPW
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau
Tori Riley Washington County LDC
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Steven Sweeney NYS Canal Corporation
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning Board
Others

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Kate Mance A/GFTC
Monika Bulman A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:08

2. Visitor Issues – none

3. Administrative Items, Aaron
A. Federal legislation update-The House is considering HR7, which is their version of the
transportation reauthorization bill. Currently it is proposed as a 5-year bill at about
260 billion dollars with a present shortfall of approximately 50-60 billion dollars.
Similar to the Senate bill, the House attempts to consolidate or eliminate a number of
programs. The set-asides for Enhancements would be eliminated, as would the Safe
Routes to School program. Emphasis area include streamlining of review and
accelerated project delivery. The House bill does preserve small MPOs, unlike the
Senate bill. The House bill is scheduled go to the floor on the 13
th.
B. Host Agency agreement- The Host Agency agreement has been signed by the
Regional Planning Board for a term of ten years as prescribed by the NYSDOT.
C. Warren County Planning Board Review Applications-Because Warren County has
disbanded their Planning Board, there is no entity within the County that can legally
process planning review applications. General municipal law 239, those
planning board reviews can be transferred to a Regional Planning Board. The Lake

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Champlain/Lake George Regional Planning Board will take over reviewing the
applications on a temporary basis until legal issues at Warren County are resolved (2-
3 months estimated). Kate Mance and Aaron will assume these responsibilities on
behalf of the LC-LGRPB.

4. Annual Work Program
A. Ongoing Activities
1) Warren County Bicycling Master Plan, Kate -At the last TAC meeting a
presentation of the draft plan was given. Comments from the TAC and
DOT were integrated into the document. The draft will be presented to
the Warren County DPW Committee on February 28
th. Once sign-off is
made, the draft will go to the full Board of Supervisors in March to get the
Plan adopted. The Healthy Communities Coalition in Washington County
is interested in a similar plan. Ed Bartholomew asked about the
involvement of the Warren County Safe and Quality Bicycling
Organization. Kate stated that they provided recommendations and will
take the implementation part of the plan to the County and local
municipalities. Additional discussion included the Community Challenge
Grant, printing of bike maps, draft plan posting to web site.

2) Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan, Kate-DOT requested an
update to the CHSTP for 2012. Kate has been working on the Plan, which
will not be a full re-write but rather an update of Census data, mapping
and integration of results from an online survey that was sent to
transportation providers. There was a 76% response rate to the survey. A
draft will be sent to all of the agencies that we will follow up with a
stakeholder meeting. It is hoped that the Plan update will generate the
necessary level of interest to pursue a Regional Mobility Management
Plan.

3) Queensbury Commercial / Industrial Access Road, Aaron – A draft
document has been reviewed by staff and the advisory committee. The
next public meeting will be February 7 at 6:30 at the South Queensbury
Fire House. The findings concluded that construction of a new connector
road does not alleviate any existing traffic conditions on Quaker Road and
Dix Avenue. Upgrading the traffic signal at Quaker and Dix Avenue could
result in some substantial improvements. Rob Cherry suggested that a
statement in the draft report that suggested that “public funds” could be
used towards the project be refined. Aaron agreed to revisit that clause.

4) Traffic engineering services, Aaron- Since the last TAC meeting, the
following on-call services contracts have been initiated.
A. Signal warrant analysis – Bay/Cronin: Warren County would like an
intersection evaluation of Bay/Cronin Roads in the Town of Queensbury.
This intersection has a significant crash history. Creighton Manning will
conduct the analysis. At the County’s request, an aggressive schedule
has been set for the completion of this study.

B. GFSD circulation issues: This study, requested by the City of Glens
Falls on behalf of the Glens Falls School District, will analyze traffic
conditions around the middle and high schools relating to circulation
(student drop-off and pick-up). Access to the school from one of the
primary roads has been restricted during periods of high traffic, and
this restriction has diverted traffic into the adjacent neighborhood.
Resource Systems Group is the consultant on board for this study.

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4) iPoolNorth update, Kate- The software developer decided they needed to
update their platform. A complete overhaul of the system was needed and
took much longer than originally anticipated. The new software should go
on-line by February 6
th. The new system will better along-the-route
matching. The interface looks better and is easier to navigate. The in-
house site management will also be improved. Upon reviewing our
usership, Kate found our site had been spammed with numerous
fraudulent accounts. Kate will reboot the Facebook page. Mike Valentine
wanted to know how many users we had. Kate replied that users totaled
around 120-150. Questions were posed as to how we would market the
availability of the site, and adding profile to the presence of existing park
and ride facilities was suggested.

B. 2012-13 UPWP
1) Financial summary (handout) – Aaron briefly reviewed the financial
summary for the upcoming work program.
2) Task summary (handout) – Aaron briefly reviewed the summary of tasks
for the upcoming work program. Additional detail was provided for the
following listed tasks:
A. Climate Change Adaptation Vulnerability Assessments: Kate
attended a FHWA training session that explored ideas about climate
change mitigation. A large segment of the seminar was on adaptation,
which is planning to preserve infrastructure that could be adversely
affected by weather events that result from continuing climate changes.
We propose a county- or region-wide assessment study to figure
out which climate conditions will actually effect us, what the effects
would be on infrastructure and operations, and what measures may be
possible to mitigate or prevent those effects. After discussion, it was
agreed to retain this project listing within the draft.

B. Regional Mobility Management Plan: Aaron stated that the request
that is most frequently asked of A/GFTC is to do something about
transportation services for rural areas. A plan that would identify the
necessary steps to establish a system of mobility management is the
logical progression of the HSTP.

C. Long Range Plan 2035 update: Aaron explained that the due date
for the LRP update is two years away, but, given the amount of data
collection and outreach that is required, it is not too early to start
working on that update during the upcoming program year.

3) Approval for release for public comment- a motion was made to release the
UPWP for public comment and for Policy Committee consideration at a
meeting in March.

MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Mike Fiorillo MOTION CARRIED

Rob Cherry noted that he had some minor revisions to make to the UPWP.
The committee agreed staff’s request to entertain those changes.

5. Transit Update – GGFT, Scott Sopczyk
2011 was the best ridership year ever. Planning for the summer is taking place. Trolley
changes will be made due to new events coming to Lake George and work on Beach
Road. The schedule should be finalized by early March. Many things hinge on the

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Governor’s Budget/State budget. Fortunately, no cuts to transit are anticipated. Glens
Falls Hospital will be working with Transit. GGFT is exploring the development of a
smartphone-friendly version of its website with Mannix Marketing with the hope of that
being ready by the summer season. GGFT is working with the Washington County
Economic Opportunity Council as they are exploring rural transportation options.

6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County – Ed Doughney reported the following:
• Corinth Road: the project is complete and the books are being reconciled
• Middleton Bridge: no significant progress since last TAC, looking at forest
preserve status on the land and to relocate the existing bridge
• Milton Street: project is complete
• Harrington Road: project is complete, the final change order went to DOT
• Beach Road: PS&E was dropped off to DOT at 11 AM today, the ROW is in
process, anticipating an end-of-March letting
• Alder Brook Road: project is complete and closeout is starting
• Hicks Road: A public meeting was held on January 25; project is not
controversial and was well received;, the draft design should be at DOT
within the next two weeks
• Lanfear and Palisades Bridges: projects are in the same stage, design
approvals should be issued tomorrow
• Crane Mountain bridge: draft design report is being reviewed in-house
• Make the Connection projects: West Mountain Road Bike Improvements
have been completed and reimbursement request is ready; the Bikeway /
149 connection will be done in the spring
• Valley Road over Patterson Creek Bridge – Creighton Manning should start
work by the end of March. An amendment to change the dates for
obligation for ROW will be needed.
• Blair Road: Could be progressed ahead of original schedule/

2) Washington County – Scott Tracy reported the following:
• CR 16 over Halfway Brook: consultant (GPI) selected; kick-off meeting was
held
• CR 12 over the Mettawee River: meeting was recenyl held between
consultant and utility reps
• CR 61 over the Batten Kill: final design approval has been received
• Dewey’s Bridge, Fort Ann: the bridge is advertised for reuse and an RFP is
out for lead paint testing

3) City of Glens Falls – Ed Bartholomew reported that the South Street project
is being closed out and the Broad Street project with Creighton Manning is
beginning.

4) Town of Queensbury – Stu Baker reported that Creighton Manning has been
selected for the design of the Aviation Road / Dixon Road / Farr Lane
intersection

5) Saratoga County/Moreau/South Glens Falls – Aaron reported on the follow-
up meeting with SGF and DOT staff regarding the proposed safety project
on Rte 9 in So. Glens Falls. Concerns persist regarding the proposed design
and impacts on parking. The Village continues to pursue coordination with
desired infrastructure upgrades and this project.

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6) NYSDOT – Frank Bonafide reported that design approval is complete for
Route 29 over Black Creek and a May 2012 letting is anticipated. A July
letting is anticipated for Route 4 in Hudson Falls. Three bridges (Route 197
over the Hudson River, Route 4 over the Champlain Canal, and Route 28N
over the Hudson River) all are 2013 lettings but are currently being
scrutinized to determine if rehabilitations are feasible alternatives. NYSDOT
is leaning towards pursuing rehabilitations in all three cases.

B. Amendments and Modifications
1) Capital Program Update – Frank Bonafide reported that the program was
submitted to the Commissioner in September was rejected. To meet
preservation goals, almost every major road rehabilitation or
reconstruction project with the exception of Route 4 in Hudson Falls was
removed from the program. A requirement now is that any project that is
deemed “beyond preservation” (major rehabs, replacements,
reconstruction) require an in-depth explanation. Local projects fall under
the new stipulations. The current fiscal climate will require that we
collectively look to extract every day of usable life out of all of our assets.

2) New York Works Program – The Governor’s program aims to put people to
work quickly and the best way to do that is to put money into
infrastructure repair in NYS. The Governor is proposing 1.16 billion dollars
in addition to the regular transportation allocations. There will be $250
million statewide for pavement preservation, $212 million for bridge
preservation, $700 million for signature transportation projects throughout
the state. Signature projects are large accelerated projects around the
state that are on the program now or those that were no longer affordable.
This will be funded with advancing construction funding (borrowing forward
upon future allocations) of Federal Aid, which exposes NYS to the risk that
the reimbursements may not be available. The timeframe is very short.
Aaron noted that this is only for state-owned infrastructure and that the
timing is interesting as NYSDOT just subjected all MPOs in the state to a
TIP readjustment in light of future funding uncertainty.

Frank also reported the Governor has also proposed consolidating the
eleven NYSDOT regions down to six statewide. There is no information
available yet. Also, by the end of March, Region 1 will be moving their
offices from Schenectady to the main office in Albany.

Preston Jenkins had some questions about NYS 197 between Routes 9 and
32 and the depth of the ditches on the north and south side as pertaining
to potential flooding. Frank agreed to look into the issue.

3) Make the Connection project solicitation, Aaron
Nine project applications were received. A selection committee, of not directly
involved committee members, will meet to review the applications and
made the selections on February16.

7. Other Items: Rob Cherry complimented Mike Valentine on the success of the recent
Planning Conference held in Saratoga.

8. Next meeting schedule and adjourn
A Policy Committee meeting will be held on the first week in March.
Preston Jenkins made a motion to adjourn at 2:57.

 
MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC November 16, 2011
Attendees Agency
Members and Participants
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury
Edward Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Frank Bonafide NYSDOT
Robert Cherry NYSDOT
Edward Doughney Warren County DPW
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning
Shawn Raymond Warren County DPW
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Michael Valentine Saratoga County Planning
John Wheatley EDC of Warren County

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Kate Mance A/GFTC
Monika Bulman A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron called the meeting to order at 1:40.

2. Visitor Issues – There were no visitor issues.

3. Administrative Items
A. Federal legislation update: Aaron reported that a draft of the highway bill was passed
by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee last Wednesday. Provisions:
keeps funding at current levels for two years, consolidates 90 highway programs
down to 30, eliminates earmarks, includes language requiring MPOs to be tiered
which would require A/GFTC to be recertified. A funding gap of 12 billion dollars still
exists and needs to be reconciled.
B. Host Agency agreement: Aaron noted that the current contract expires at the end of
March 2012. A draft contract is currently under review by the Regional Planning
Board; comments are due from them by November 18.

4. Transit
A. GGFT Update (Scott Sopczyk): The bus and trolley ridership through October is up
5.3%. The restructuring of routes is going well. The New York Public Transit
Association conducted a peer group analysis recently. GGFT has historically
compared favorably with other systems in the state. The Florida Department of
Transportation has a database that used a Transportation Research Board report to
come up with a way to identify peers throughout the US. The analysis showed that
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GGFT also compares favorably with peer systems in other states. GGFT is in the
process of replacing their radio system with the help of Warren County.

5. Annual Work Program
A. Ongoing Activities
1. Warren County Bicycling Master Plan: Kate presented a summary of the
planning efforts. The existing A/GFTC Bicycle and Pedestrian Plan was
completed in 2000. The Warren County Safe and Quality Bicycling
Organization requested assistance in preparing a bicycling plan for Warren
County. The purpose of the plan is to provide an organizational tool for local
and county decision-makers while providing realistic goals for the WCS&QBO.
Kate briefly went through the contents and sections of the Plan. The plan
includes: an introduction with the benefits of bicycle facilities and goal
statement; an existing conditions inventory including bicycle destinations;
priority connections map which takes into account the needs of various
groups including local municipalities; design standards summarized from
NYSDOT and AASHTO guidance documents; a feasibility analysis which
compares existing shoulder widths to posted speed limits for selected roads in
the county; and implementation guidance including a project selection
flowchart, funding sources, and list of incremental project opportunities. To
allow fro additional review time, Aaron will follow up with a fax ballot within a
couple of weeks seeking concurrence from the TAC that the draft is
acceptable and can be advanced for adoption by Warren County. Kate will
also go back to the Towns and Villages to let them know the process that will
be used to unveil the draft Plan. The plan will be presented to the DPW
committee of the Board of Supervisors for Warren County after the new year.
Hopefully by March or April the Plan will be adopted/endorsed by the Board of
Supervisors. Ed Bartholomew reported that the City of Glens Falls, as a part
of their community challenge grant, has an RFP going out next year that deals
with pedestrians and bicyclists going to and from downtown, the schools, and
will tie in with transit use.
2. WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification (Aaron): The IDA had been looking for
some technical assistance to prepare an initial traffic assessment for the
potential development of Phase 2 of the Airport Industrial Park. A/GFTC
originally offered to facilitate professional consulting services to the IDA but
that offer was declined. The draft, produced by staff using existing data
includes Highway Capacity Software analyses and outputs from A/GFTC’s
TransCAD model. The results indicate that the amount of potential build out
that could occur at that site is not going to significantly impact the adjacent
state owned transportation facility. There are existing deficiencies at some
intersections that are not directly attributable to site development at Phase
II: delays at Dix and Quaker are likely the result of the new Walmart on
Quaker; the 4 hour and 8 hour signal warrants are met at Ridge and Hicks
but no correctable accident pattern is present per an analysis done by
Greenman Pedersen Inc on behalf of Warren County.
3. Glens Falls residential traffic calming study (Aaron): The study is complete
and Resource Systems Group’s final report indicates the striping plan was not
effective in reducing speeds. By way of a speed survey, neighbors and
participants had previously identified a comfort speed between 27 and 28
MPH; most felt on average that 30 MPH was too fast. Striping was deployed in
an attempt to lower speeds to that comfort speed but data collection indicates
that it did not work. A follow up survey went out to people in the
neighborhood. The temporary stop bars and crosswalks were well received.

Several respondents indicated negative reactions to the aesthetic impact of
the striping. These findings will be presented to the Glens Falls Board of Public
Safety in December.
4. Pavement data collection (Aaron): Staff just started utilizing the GIS based
pavement data collection tool. Pavement scores have been given to local
federal aid eligible roadways in Moreau and Glens Falls and we hope to
complete the urban area before snow becomes an issue.
5. Coordinated Human Services Transportation Plan (Aaron): A/GFTC has been
asked by DOT to update the HSTP by April 2012. The existing plan has been
reviewed; we will be meeting with GGFT on 11/17 to discuss further. A major
rewrite is not anticipated.
6. Queensbury commercial/industrial access road (Aaron): This project is
underway; three committee meeting and one public workshop have been held
to date. A fourth meeting will take place on November 17
th. The public
workshop was attended by 30 people. The feedback from the public for the
concept is mixed – there is no majority opinion in favor of or opposed to the
construction of new highway link. Creighton Manning is currently evaluating
several alternatives.
7. Requests for traffic engineering services (Aaron): Three requests have been
submitted varying in formality and articulation of need: the Mayor of Glens
Falls is interested in having us analyze some of the traffic pattern changes
implemented by Glens Falls City School District; the City also would like an
analysis to determine if a signal is warranted at Dix/Sagamore; Wayne
LaMothe described a third candidate in the Town of Chester that would entail
access management improvements and potential intersection modifications.
Mike Valentine questioned the readiness of the Chester candidate, suggesting
that it if the plan, produced by Behan Planning and Design, had not been
adopted by the municipality then it was too early in the process for that
project to be considered for this program. Mr. LaMothe replied that he was
keeping conversation active on the concept as opposed to seeking contractual
assistance for the project immediately. Aaron suggested that, given the
discussion and his understanding of the priorities, that the school project be
advanced first.
6. TIP
A. Project updates
1. Warren County (Ed Doughney): Corinth Road is basically complete; Milton St.
Bridge over the Schroon River construction is complete; Harrington Road
construction is complete;Beach Road is still in final design and will hopefully
be advertised for bid in December; Lanfear and Palisades Roads are in design;
a public meeting for Hicks Road is planned for December. The West Mountain
Road Make the Connection project is complete. The bikeway improvements
will take place in the spring. Scott Sopczyk asked about the work schedule
for Beach Road. Ed said at the beginning of the construction season up to
Memorial Day the work will take place on the west end and then the work will
switch to the other end.
2. Washington County (Scott Tracy): The final design report was returned
County Rte 61 over the Battenkill; a public information meeting was held for
Dewey’s Bridge Thursday night with only one resident in attendance;
submitted an amendment to the proof on design report; the county submitted
an amendment to the proof on design report for Truthville bridge (County Rte
21 over Mettawee); letters of interest were sent out for County Rte 16 over
Halfway Brook.

3. City of Glens Falls (Ed Bartholomew): South Street is wrapped up. Lessons
learned from related utility issues will help with the Broad Street project.
4. Town of Queensbury (Stu Baker): Ready to award the design contract for the
Aviation/Dixon/Farr intersection. Five proposals were received.
5. Saratoga County/Moreau/South Glens Falls (Mike Valentine): Mr. Valentine
inquired about the status of the Route 9 project in South Glens Falls and
suggested that we reschedule the planned walk-through of the project. Aaron
agreed to schedule another meeting. Frank Bonafide indicated that things
were a little behind on the design but that the project should be a go in the
next fiscal year.
6. NYSDOT (Frank Bonafide): Rte 4, still working on it but a month or so behind;
the 4/149 intersection in Ft. Ann will also experience some delay.

B. Amendments and Modifications
1. Review of proposed program adjustments (Aaron): A/GFTC and NYSDOT met
with the local project sponsors to confirm cost estimates and desired schedules for
TIP projects in an effort to identify program adjustment that could be made to
reduce upcoming programming totals as a result of allocation estimate reductions.
DOT took sponsor comments into account and proposed a number of adjustments
that were then shared with A/GFTC staff. Aaron summarized the results on the
handout distributed today.
Of all of those changes, only one TIP amendment is required. NYSDOT proposed
delaying an interstate resurfacing project in Saratoga County (PIN 172206),
currently programmed within the first four years of the TIP, to the post-TIP period.
A motion was made to initiate public comment and forward this amendment to the
Policy Committee for consideration.

MOVED BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

2. NYSDOT Capital Program Update (Frank Bonafide): The Region has received
instruction from the Main Office. FHWA has been a lot more exacting in
requiring a balance of all the dollar and cents. In the past we had the ability
to move things from year to year, but now offset are required for most
changes. Revised allocations were about $150 million less than what would
have been considered flat. The Capital Program Update is usually linked with
a TIP update, but that is not the case during this cycle. Many more groups
within the Department are involved in reviewing the Region’s program.
Estimates are that about 1/3 of the necessary funding to keep the system in a
safe state of repair is available. As a result, a priority network has been
identified. Frank reported that there will be a letter going out from the
Commissioner to the committee members to give an explanation for the
program adjustments, federal money disbursement, and consideration of
preservation-related projects. Aaron requested that NYSDOT issue some
guidance to local project sponsors that details the types of capital projects
that are favored under a a preservation strategy.
3. Make the Connection project solicitation (Aaron): We are ready to go with
this, we have revised the language in the solicitation. There are issues with
the program regarding execution. There are old projects still not going
forward and it would be nice to put that designated money back in the pot.
The new project solicitation should be going out in the next several weeks.
Aaron would like suggestions on how to deal with delinquencies. After
discussion, it was decided initiation should be done quickly (18 months) and

projects should be completed in three years once the award has been
received.

7. Other Items – Aaron stated a draft UPWP is due by March of 2012, Currently there
are no large-scale activities that have been requested.
8. Next Meeting and Adjourn: There will be TAC meeting in January and a Policy
Committee meeting in February. Mike Valentine made a motion to adjourn the
meeting at 3:40.

 
MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC August 15, 2011
Attendees Agency
Members and Participants
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls DPW
Frank Bonafide NYSDOT
Lorenzo DiStefano NYSDOT
Edward Doughney Warren County DPW
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
Jim Lindsay Town Kingsbury
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning
Heidi Romines NYSDOT
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Steve Sweeney NYS Canal Corp.
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Michael Valentine Saratoga County Planning
Karen Williams NYSDOT
Dick Wilson Washington County DPW

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Kate Mance A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron called the meeting to order at 9:30 and explained
that this meeting would be followed by detailed discussion of the status of TIP projects
with project sponsors. The purpose will be to have the sponsors re-affirm the program
and project priorities. The TIP will then be updated accordingly. This is in place of a full
TIP amendment, which has been delayed one year by NYSDOT.
2. Visitor Issues – There were no visitor issues.
3. Administrative Items
A. Host Agency Agreement: Aaron noted that the draft Host Agency Agreement
discussed at the last TAC meeting was approved by the DOT Main Office and will be
sent to the Regional Planning Board.
B. Unified Planning Work Program Amendment. As a result of a federal bill that was
signed in April, there was a reduction in the size of the FTA grant for A/GFTC in the
amount of approximately $59.00. A/GFTC has been asked to complete a UPWP
amendment to account for this change. As the amount of funding is quite minor,
Aaron would like to request approval that the public comment process be waived.
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Aaron also noted that there is a $15,000 increase in FHWA funds. This funding can
programmed next year, negating the need for a UPWP amendment.
4. Annual Work Program
A. Ongoing Activities
1. Glens Falls residential traffic calming study: Aaron gave an update on the
status of the study, explaining that the traffic counts are complete.
Temporary striping had been applied earlier in the summer, and the speed
wagon had been deployed as well. Data was collected for the control
condition, the striped condition, and the striping plus speed wagon. Counts
were also collected on two parallel streets to determine if behavior on these
streets was altered. A survey was distributed to the residents. Early feedback
has been mixed, and some negative comments have been made to City Hall
(although not to A/GFTC directly). Once the results of the traffic counts have
been analyzed, further findings will be made to the TAC, probably within the
next few months.
2. Warren County Bicycling Master Plan: Kate Mance updated the committee,
stating that over the last few months a work plan and methodology were
identified to narrow the scope of the project into a feasible product. In
addition, Kate field-verified the shoulder widths and speed limits of the
potential bike routes identified by the Warren County Safe & Quality Bicycling
Organization to determine whether the shoulders would be adequate to
support designated bicycle use. The majority of the roadways do not provide
adequate bicycling space in their current condition. The next step will be to
assist the WCS&QBO to set feasible priorities, and also to add in any local
priorities as identified by municipalities in planning documents. The goal will
be to create an action plan, which can be used by the WCS&QBO in working
with local municipalities to improve bike conditions. Kate also asked for
feedback from the TAC on the desire for WCS&QBO to “rate” specific routes
as part of this plan (i.e. which routes are suitable for experienced cyclists vs.
children or casual cyclists). Kate stated that her understanding is that this
sort of designation is outside the purview of the A/GFTC for this plan.
However, the WCS&QBO could use the GIS layers created as part of this plan
and issue their own map as a separate project, perhaps through Warren
County’s GIS department. Aaron noted that the bike group had identified the
Herkimer-Oneida County Bike Atlas as an example of the type of product
that they would eventually like to produce, but that this is not the type of
project that A/GFTC had anticipated including in the UPWP. Jeff Tennyson
noted that he had also been helping the bike organization, and that
managing their expectations was a large part of their discussions. He stated
that the county’s priorities are on the drivable portions of the roadways
themselves, and stand-alone shoulder projects are not currently feasible.
Finding off-road solutions will be an important component, as will add-ons
from other funding sources like the Make the Connection program. Frank
Bonafide also stated that Enhancement funding or similar sources will
become more important moving forward, and that doing as much of the
preparation as possible prior to seeking funding will help. For example, a
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would greatly increase the chance of obtaining Enhancement funds by
ensuring that many of the right-of-way and acquisition questions are
answered up front.
3. GIS Services contract: Aaron noted that Fountains Spatial had been
mobilized to revise the transit ridership software to account for route
changes. Given that the Trolley routes only run until Labor Day, it is likely
that this portion of the data collection will have to be collected manually if
the application is not updated in time.
4. Analysis of 2010 Census data: Kate reviewed a preliminary analysis of the
Census 2010 data. The goal of the analysis is to determine what trends are
occurring in the region, so that appropriate transportation priorities can be
set in future planning efforts. As the data is being released on a piecemeal
basis, the analysis will be prepared as the new information is released.
Population, age, and travel time to work summaries have been prepared to
date. Each analysis is composed of a one-page summary with appropriate
mapping and/or charts as appropriate. In terms of population, there was a
trend reversal, in which the communities which had grown from 1990-2000
had lost population from 2000-2010, and vice versa. As such, most of the
villages had increased growth. Kate also noted that no studies of national
trends which mirror the local condition in terms of population had yet been
identified. With regards to age, several communities were identified which
had proportionally higher numbers of 20-30 year old residents, and also had
a lower mean age than the rest of the region. These communities include
many of the villages which also grew in population. Finally, in terms of
travel-to-work, areas closest to Glens Falls had the shortest travel time to
work. Certain areas which also have significant local employment centers,
such as Granville and Whitehall, also have correspondingly shorter travel
times. Jim Lindsay noted that some of the data as presented may be as a
result of Census methodology shifting from 2000 to 2010, especially in
Kingsbury. The local, anecdotal perspective is that coverage of the area for
the 2000 census was not complete, resulting in under-counting. However,
the 2010 methodology was improved and local outreach was better, so the
more recent numbers may be more accurate. Wayne LaMothe also asked
whether there would be any new urbanized areas in NYS. Kate responded
that she had not researched this topic as it was outside the MPO boundary.
Aaron also noted that the local urbanized area boundary criteria had yet to
be finalized.
5. iPoolNorth update: Aaron noted that the iPoolNorth ridesharing software is
being updated, both for A/GFTC and for CDTC, as the two systems are
linked. This update was instigated by the software designers, not the MPOs,
and the update will not result in an increased cost in the software contract.
CDTC is working with the vendor to implement the changes as they have a
larger pool of people enrolled in the system and have more complex user
needs than A/GFTC. Once the modifications are made, the updated software
platform will be activated, probably within the next month or two. This will
also result in needing to re-enroll all participants in the ridesharing program,
as that information cannot be imported to the new program.
6. WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification: Aaron reported that A/GFTC is still
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GPI had indicated that turning movement counts would be collected as part
of that project, which would be a valuable inclusion in the Shovel Ready
project. IDA has been contacted for additional background information for
the project as well.
7. Queensbury commercial / industrial access road: Aaron reported that of the
twelve consultants that responded to the RFP, four were interviewed.
Creighton Manning Engineering was selected to complete the study. A kick-
off meeting will be held on Monday, August 22, at 1:00. Jeff Tennyson
recommended holding the meeting in the conference room at the airport, to
facilitate a walk-through. Aaron noted that the feasibility analysis will take
about six months to complete, and will focus on what potential value a
connector roadway will have with regards to traffic operations and economic
development.
5. Transit
A. GGFT Update: Scott Sopczyk noted that July was the busiest month in GGFT’s
history. Most of this is attributable to use of the trolleys. This is partly because of
high gas prices and also due to international and summer workers traveling
between Glens Falls and Lake George. The weather also affected usage. Year-
round routes remained essentially flat. Route changes went into effect July 18.
This resulted in a similar amount of service re-allocated within the transit area.
For example, service to Bay Road/ACC increased, while lesser-used routes
decreased in frequency. Regarding capital projects, the lift in the GGFT garage
has been replaced. The Ridge Street terminal has been rehabbed, and the
pavement/re-striping portion of the project will be completed next week. The
striping design was made possible through the engineering assistance of A/GFTC,
and is intended to prevent cars from parking in the bus drop-off area. GGFT has
been coordinating with the Sheriff’s Department to get space on the radio tower
for a new repeater, which will address radio coverage. Federal funding is stable
through 2012, although State funding is still in question. Mike Valentine asked
what the effect of construction to Exit 18 has been on transit. Scott responded
that the direction of the route was reversed to go out on Luzerne Road and return
on Corinth Road and signs were installed. This has been working well.
6. TIP
A. Amendments and Modifications:
1. Discussion of Beach Road amendment: Aaron noted that a ballot had
been faxed to the TAC for a $1.2 million increase, along with a letter
from the DPW explaining why the increase was necessary. The ballot
was approved for 30-day public review, which is underway. The
comment period will expire at the beginning of September, which will
allow for the Policy Committee to review in time to make the
amendment within the current federal fiscal year. Wayne asked whether
the amendment would affect other TIP projects. Aaron responded that
NYSDOT R1 staff, working with CDTC, was able to find the requisite
offsetting funds within CDTC’s program. This will allow us to process the
amendment without a reduction within the A/GFTC program. Frank
Bonafide noted that any increase will have an effect eventually. Since
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the TAC is not looking at massive cuts in the next few years. Overruns
and unexpected contingencies will also use up much of the leeway in the
under-programmed TIP. Aaron noted that this under-programming was
deliberate and takes into account the need for unexpected offsets. Mike
Valentine asked about the process when an offset is required, but
cannot be obtained from the sponsor. Frank replied that funds within the
region may be shifted, or funding for state projects might be used.
Frank also asked whether the current Beach Road estimate was accurate
and sufficient. The representatives present from Warren County DPW
indicated that it was.
B. Projects: Since the normal discussion of project status will be superceded by the
more detailed discussion between project sponsors and DOT, to happen later
today, Aaron opened the floor to the committee to pose any questions regarding
projects. He began by giving an update regarding the Route 9 Safety Project in
South Glens Falls. NYSDOT, local officials, A/GFTC and Saratoga County Planning
representatives met last week to discuss the DOT’s draft design concepts for the
corridor. This concept includes a continuous two-way left turn lane between
Feeder Dam Road in the south and River Street in the north. Aaron noted that
this concept is likely to have significant impacts to on-street parking. Mayor
Donohue has requested a site walkthrough with DOT, and coordination for this is
ongoing. In terms of the Exit 18 project, Kevin Hajos reported that the project is
85-90% complete. The top course of asphalt will be installed in the next few
days, with topsoil and incidentals to follow. There is an October 1 anticipated
finish date. Scott noted that the placement of the transit signage along the
roadway is also sufficient. Wayne asked about the status of the other City
projects in the vicinity. Aaron noted that Glens Falls does have two capital
projects, Broad Street and Hudson Avenue, that the it is still pursuing. The City
has indicated to A/GFTC that their main priority is to hold the Broad Street
reconstruction project to the current schedule.
C. Reprogramming instructions for FFY 2012-2014: Directly after this meeting,
Warren County representatives will remain behind to discuss individual projects,
and that meeting will reconvene at 1 p.m. with the Washington County project
sponsors.
7. Adjourn: Frank Bonafide made a motion, seconded by Mike Valentine, to adjourn at
10:45. The meeting was adjourned.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC June 14, 2011
Attendees Agency
Members
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls DPW
Edward Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Robert Cherry NYSDOT – Region 1
Edward Doughney Warren County DPW
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT – Region 1
Tori Riley Washington County LDC
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Michael Valentine Saratoga County Planning
Others

Greg Roy McFarland Johnson
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Kate Mance A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:30

2. Visitor Issues – There were no visitor issues.

3. Administrative Items
A. Personnel Update: Aaron introduced Kate Mance as the recently hired Senior
Transportation Planner, noting that after Sarah Gebbie-Measeck’s resignation,
approximately 20 potentially viable resumes were received and six interviews
conducted. Kate began work at A/GFTC last week. Aaron requested that the
committee ratify the hiring.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Stuart Baker MOTION CARRIED

B. Host Agency Agreement: Aaron noted that the current contract with the Lake
Champlain Lake George Regional Planning Board (RPB) is set to expire on July 1. A
smaller committee of the TAC looked into options concerning host agency options for
A/GFTC, namely whether to remain with the RPB or move to another agency. Most of
the sucommittee’s questions regarding the current arrangement were answered.
Aaron stated that his view was that, given the trend in federal agencies to favor
regional planning, A/GFTC should continue its arrangement with the RPB. Wayne
LaMothe asked whether the issues previously raised concerning the financial
arrangement have been addressed, and whether AGFTC has faced any issues with the
timing of reimbursement. Aaron explained that the RPB has taken steps to address
cash flow and ensure timely reimbursements. The DOT is strongly encouraging MPOs
to pursue a 10-year contract with host agencies. Scott Sopcyzk suggested a 5-year
contract with a 5-year renewal clause, if possible. A/GFTC has a draft contract from
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the RPB and Aaron will follow up with DOT on the contract term before executing the
contract.
C. Federal Reauthorization: Aaron noted that the Association of Metropolitan Planning
Organizations (AMPO) has obtained a copy of a draft transportation bill proposed by
the Obama administration that would call for the re-certification of all small MPOs,
subject to performance measures which have not yet been identified. A/GFTC is well
positioned to meet any performance measures, and NYS would be likely willing to re-
authorize MPOs, given that the duties would otherwise fall to DOT. There is also no
guarantee that the re-certification provision would be included in the final version of
the bill, as competing bills may set other thresholds. AMPO is circulating letters in
support of small MPOs, and Aaron noted that staff cannot directly lobby federal
agencies, but local elected officials can send letters of support. Resolutions from the
Boards of Supervisors would also be useful. A/GFTC can supply relevant information if
requested. If the MPO was dissolved, there would likely be a period of about 2 years
in which a transition plan would need to be created. Several committee members
requested copies of the draft letter.
4. Transit
A. GGFT Update (Scott Sopczyk): GGFT is in the process of instituting the service
changes as part of last year’s Transit Development Plan. This will provide the same
level of service with a 10% reduction in workforce, which was achieved through
attrition. Some services will be increased, notably Bay Road to ACC/Queensbury Town
Hall, and Glens Falls to Hudson Falls/Fort Edward. The schedule is also more regular.
This plan was put out for public comment, and GGFT worked to address comments
received. The Trolley service begins on a 7-day schedule on 6/25. A recent driver
recruitment effort was successful. The fleet is currently in good shape. Although there
are no immediate issues in terms of federal actions, there is word that a 35%
reduction in 5307 funds may be included in the next transportation bill. If enacted,
this would impact the maintenance of the fleet 4-5 years in the future. Wayne
LaMothe asked for details concerning current ridership and mileage. Scott noted that
annual ridership levels are at about 325,000, and mileage is at about 300,000. This
works out to 1.1 passengers/mile. The cost/hour of the service is the lowest in NY,
and the cost/mile is the second lowest. The cost/passenger trails only transit agencies
with a high proportion of students (such as in Ithaca and Syracuse).
B. Local Engineering Assistance Program (Scott): Creighton Manning was tasked with
designing the new pavement striping pattern under the Local Engineering Assistance
Program, and the City will mill and stripe the pavement in early July.
C. Website Update: Scott noted that enhancements to the website will go live in the next
few weeks. A Google map will be added for the bus routes, which will add
functionality to the site.
5. Annual Work Program
A. Review of Staff and Consultant Activities
1) Queensbury Connector Road RFP (Aaron): Twelve proposals were received on
June 3. A subcommittee comprised of Warren County DPW, T. of Queensbury
Commmunity Development, Washington County LDC, Region 1 Planning, and
the City of Glens Falls have volunteered to review the proposals. The
subcommittee discussed tentative dates to meet, and identified Tuesday, June
21 at 10 a.m. as a possible time. Ed Bartholomew will confirm his availability
to Aaron. NYSDOT may be able to conference in to the meeting as well.
2) Travel Demand Modeling contract (Aaron): The new model is complete. It will
will likely be used on the Queensbury Connector Road and the shovel-ready
site analysis.
3) iPoolNorth update (Aaron): Aaron and Kate attended a meeting at CDTC
offices on June 13 to review changes to the iPoolNorth software platform. The
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Connect. The current software will not be supported past 2012. CDTC and
A/GFTC will therefore upgrade the software at the same cost as the current
system. The targeted roll-out is August 2011. The new system will feature an
easier interface and greater local customization of the site. Scott asked about
whether the CDTC park and ride report was complete. Mike Valentine stated
that his understanding was that the report had not been advanced past the
BF&J presentation in March. Aaron will follow up with CDTC and report back.
B. Upcoming Activities
1) WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification (Aaron): A/GFTC has received information
about the Phase 1 buildouts, and will do the traffic analysis for Phase 2. To
complete this, the Hicks Road analysis will be needed. Ed Doughney noted that
GPI was conducting the analysis this week, and would have the information
forwarded to A/GFTC when it is available.
2) Bicycle Map update/reprint (Aaron): A/GFTC is running low on bike maps. The
Warren County Safe and Quality Biking Organization (SQBO) has requested a
number of additions to the map, mainly east-west connectors between
Queensbury and Glens Falls. These routes have not yet been endorsed by the
involved municipalities, and cannot therefore be added to the MPO-issued
map. Aaron has encouraged the SQBO to pursue getting these routes
endorsed by the municipalities. It may be necessary to order a short run of
maps while this effort is underway.
3) Warren County Bicycle Plan (Aaron): A/GFTC is creating a scope of work and
determining whether the Warren County Bike Plan can be an MPO product
given that recreation is a large component of the requested product. It is
possible that A/GFTC can assist with the inventory and conceptual connections,
and that a consultant can be brought in if needed. The next meeting of the
SQBO is on June 29
th. Ed Doughney asked if the plan would include similarities
to CDTC’s priority network. Aaron noted that the A/GFTC’s existing Bicycle and
Pedestrian Plan contained priority corridors that were similar to that concept
and an updated list could be an anticipated product. The intent is also to
produce a document that can be folded into a regional plan which includes the
whole MPO planning area.
4) Aaron noted two items not on the agenda. First, staff is waiting for the GGFT
route changes to go into effect prior to commencing the FTA passenger mile
survey. The recently completed GIS application will make this task faster.
Second, staff will begin work on updating the coordinated Human Services
Transportation Plan. This report was last completed 3-4 years ago, and will be
updated for 2012.
6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County (Ed Doughney): Corinth Road is about 75% complete and is
slated to be done in September, ahead of schedule, with reconstruction of the
north side of the roadway complete and coordination to move the power lines
and poles underway. Middleton Bridge is being designed using the relocated
alignment but has been a slow process. Milton St. Bridge in Warrensburg is
about 95% complete, with the water main and walkway being the main
outstanding items. Harrington Road Bridge has been delayed due to high water
levels, and DPW is looking to revise the design to compensate for
groundwater, with a target substantial completion target of September. Beach
Road has received NEPA concurrence and is moving forward with Design
Approval. There was an EPF grant received for pervious pavement for this
project – Ed is meeting tomorrow to identify issues relating to using this
pavement. The final design is anticipated to be complete a bit behind schedule,
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not be conducted during the summer tourist season. In response to a question
from Scott, Ed noted that this does not include the DEC portion of the project.
The Alder Brook Bridge is functionally complete after a slight delay from the
high water conditions, with full completion anticipated for August. DPW has
authorized preliminary design on four projects – Hicks Road, Lanfear Road
bridge over Stony Creek, Crane Mountain Road bridge, and Palisades Road
bridge over Brant Lake. In addition, two Make the Connection projects, the
Warren County Bikeway and West Mountain Road bicycle improvements, have
forwarded draft design reports to DOT for approval. DPW anticipates a fall
start on these two projects. Wayne asked whether the TIP amendment for
Broad Street is still going forward. Ed Bartholomew noted that the Common
Council is still pursuing that. Broad Street will not be as complex of a project
as Exit 18 or South Street. The South Street contract will be awarded to
Rifenburg Construction at meeting later that this evening (6/14/11).
2) Washington County: Scott Tracy was not present. Aaron noted that the County
12 bridge in Granville, originally slated for year 4 of the TIP, has been red
flagged and may need to be moved up. The program change could be
accommodated through the changes to the Dewey’s Bridge project. Also, the
CR 61 project has been revised to include a truss, based on the public’s
aesthetic concerns. Mary Anne Mariotti asked about the status was of the
CR10 bridge to Poultney. Aaron noted that the project lead was Vermont, and
that the project had lost some momentum because of the same water issues
facing Warren and Washington Counties. Aaron will look into what kind of
agreement is in place regarding the project and report back to DOT.
3) Saratoga County: Mike Valentine reported that there were no updates from
Saratoga County.
4) NYSDOT: Aaron asked Mary Anne Mariotti for an update on the Route 9 Safety
project in Moreau/South Glens Falls. Mary Anne will check on the status and
report back. The Route 372 bridge over the Battenkill project is on schedule,
with drainage and roadway construction currently underway. The I-87/CR10
project is also on schedule, with an anticipated construction end in June 2012.
The bridge should be open by November 2011. I-87 over Route 9 in
Pottersville has just been awarded; Mary Anne would report back on who had
won the award. I-87 from Exit 18 – Exit 24 is under construction; awaiting
approval from the Main Office for rustic guide railings. Route 9N bridge over
the Hudson is on schedule. Route 196 over the Champlain Canal bridge repair
is underway. I-87 over Gurney Lane bridge repair should be completed by
mid-August. In terms of the Making the Connection project in Argyle, the
project may need to include curbing in order to follow DOT standards. The DOT
residency is providing guidance regarding the extra cost associated with the
curbs. Mary Anne noted that it was a general concern of DOT that the local
participants in the MTC process be aware of the need to incorporate DOT
process and design standards, and that facilities cannot always be replaced in
kind. A pre-application meeting might be useful to let applicants know about
the issues before committing to the projects. Aaron noted that the changes
Mary Anne had submitted previously concerning the next solicitation were
received and would be incorporated. Mike Valentine asked about the status of
the Granville MTC project. Aaron noted that the resident engineer asked that
the sidewalk be moved to the other side of the road, which will require
additional crosswalks. The change will provide added benefits in terms of
pedestrian/vehicle separation and requiring less curbing. Rob Cherry noted
that NYSDOT is still working towards a smart growth policy, and that the policy
could be adapted to solicit projects in the future. Thresholds have yet to be
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B. Amendments and Modifications: none.
7. Other Items: Wayne LaMothe noted that Warren County is sponsoring a
gateway/streetscape project on Route 9 in Pottersville. Cynthia Behan is the consultant
working on the concept design. Wayne and Cynthia met with Mark Kennedy at DOT
Region 1 to incorporate required design and signage elements. The project will require a
DOT permit. Wayne is requesting technical assistance from A/GFTC to advance the
concept design to a point where the Town will be able to apply for a DOT permit. Aaron
noted that the MPO is already committed to the Town of Lake George for engineering
assistance, and will need to check availability. Aaron also noted that A/GFTC is advancing
the residential traffic calming study with engineering assistance, which will identify a
target speed for traffic calming improvements. The project will test a few design
improvements for efficacy, with the goal of identifying a model which could be deployed
in neighborhoods as needed. As part of that process, A/GFTC may need assistance from
Warren County DPW to help with deploying tubes for traffic counts. The Lake George
technical assistance project will commence once the residential traffic calming project is
complete. Rob Cherry asked if the Pottersville streetscape will involve access
management. Wayne stated that it would, especially where needed to incorporate
pedestrian improvements.
8. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – The next TAC meeting was tentatively
scheduled for mid-August.

Mr. LaMothe moved to adjourn the meeting at 3:20.

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Policy Committee Meeting
Minutes of Wednesday, March 9, 2011
Attendance:
Members
:
Ed Bartholomew, City of Glens Falls (rep. Jack Diamond)
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Frank Bonafide, NYSDOT Reg. 1 (rep. Mary Ivy)
Preston Jenkins, Supervisor, Town of Moreau
James Lindsay, Supervisor, Town of Kingsbury
Frank McCoy, Supervisor, Town of Lake George
Daniel Stec, Chairman, Warren County Board of Supervisors
Mitch Suprenant, Supervisor, Town of Ford Edward
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Michael Loftus)
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Thomas Wood)
Others
:
Michael Fiorillo, Village of Hudson Falls
Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti, NYSDOT-Region 1
Joseph Rich, Federal Highway Administration
Jeff Tennyson, Warren County DPW

A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Monika Bulman, Administrative Assistant

1. Welcome & Introductions
Chairman Dan Stec called the meeting to order at 1:37

2. Visitors Issues – None

3. Administration
A. Host Agency agreement (Aaron): Another municipality, the City of Glens Falls,
has presented itself as a possible host agency. GGFT has indicated that their
experience with having the City as a host has been positive. At times the
LC/LGRPB has experienced cash flow problems resulting in late payments to
consultants, but a bank loan recently acquired by the RPB may help avoid
future late payments.

A motion was made to establish a committee to explore alternative hosting
arrangements.

MOVED BY : Jeff Tennyson SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

4. Transit
A. 5310 Program- (Aaron) This is a federally funded, state administered program
for vehicle purchases for private not-for-profit transportation providers that
serve elderly and disabled passengers. The deadline to submit applications is
May 4, 2011. A/GFTC will assist in the review and selection of applicants.

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B. GGFT Update – In absence of a full report from GGFT, Aaron briefly noted that
GGFT was planning to hold public workshops to present possible service
changes as identified in the Transit Development Plan.

5. Annual Work Program
A. Review of Staff and Consultant Activities
1) Local Transportation Planning and Engineering Assistance Program
a. Glens Falls residential traffic calming (Aaron): RSG is continuing
to work on the methodology for a spring 2011 deployment of
data collection and neighbor surveys.
b. Request from GGFT for design services (Aaron): GGFT has
requested using our Local Traffic Engineering Assistance
Program with design, striping, signing and utilization of space at
City Hall for the bus terminal. This would also include specs for
materials. The program has sufficient funds to carry this project
and no committee approval is required to advance this.
c. Request from Town of Lake George (Aaron): Stemming from
their recent gateway corridor study facilitated by A/GFTC, the
Town of Lake George has requested assistance for development
of a wayfinding signing plan. Mr. McCoy reported that currently
the corridor has cluttered signage and lacks pedestrian and
landscaping. Improved signage is the first step in the Town’s
vision for an improved corridor. Frank Bonafide noted that signs
placed in state rights-of-way would require DOT review. Aaron
recommended that this project be initiated following completion
of the GGFT and City of Glens Falls projects noted above. Mr.
McCoy stated that this was acceptable.
2) Travel Demand Modeling contract (Aaron): Warner Transportation
Consulting is completing the methodology report and users guide for
the new model, and is also attempting to reconcile model outputs with
data used by the Interagency Consultation Group in their review of air
quality conformity. The entire project should be completed within two
months.
3) GIS Services contract (Aaron): The data collection tools are complete
and include a transit passenger data collection tool (this will allow us to
assist GGFT with FTA ridership requirements), pavement scoring data
collection device and on-line TIP project and traffic count browsers.
GGFT has requested a transit map browser which we will work over the
course of the upcoming state fiscal year pending UPWP approval.
4) iPoolNorth update (Aaron): We currently have 115 people signed up.
The increase is due to Glens Falls Hospital publicizing the program to its
employees. Additional increases are likely to coincide with rising fuel
costs.
B. Upcoming Activities
1) WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification (Aaron): A preliminary traffic
generation estimate for IDA in support of their shovel-ready
certification request from New York State is on hold pending data
collection done on behalf of Warren County as part of the Hicks Road
reconstruction.
2) Bicycle Map update/reprint (Aaron): Reprinting of the regional bicycle
map is on-hold as Queensbury and Glens Falls consider designating
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C. 2011-2012 Work Program
1) Review of Draft (Handout): Aaron summarized the work program and
pointed out that we had to make a change of $142.00 from the initial
draft. The total program amount is $656,799. We are anticipating an
additional $190K carryover in savings from the 2010-2011 year but,
because those savings have not been released by FHWA, they were not
included in the draft program. Without these funds, A/GFTC has
adequate funds to accomplish the tasks in the UPWP. If we find that
mid-year we need the carryover funds for additional tasks, the UPWP
can be amended.

A motion was made to approve the 2011-2012 UPWP.

MOVED BY : Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

6. TIP
A. Make the Connection (MTC) Awards (Aaron): Four projects were awarded:
Warren County for establishing bicycle space along West Mountain Road;
Warren County for the bikeway a new connection between the Warren County
Bikeway and the factory outlet stores on Route 9; Village of Argyle for
sidewalks along Sheridan Street; Village of Granville (joint venture with Town)
for sidewalks. Recommendations for improvements to the application and the
selection process are a high priority. Jeff Tennyson wondered if some of the
additional UPWP funds could be used towards the development of stronger
MTC projects. Aaron noted that A/GFTC was not leaving the additional funds
on the table but that those were savings from prior years and that the TAC
could explore MTC project development in greater detail as the year
progressed.

B. Project Updates
1) Warren County (Jeff Tennyson) Consultant selection for Crane Mountain
Road Bridge (Creighton Manning Engineering) and Hicks Road
reconstruction (Greenman – Pedersen Inc.) has taken place; bids are in
for Harrington Road Bridge; the utility phase for Corinth Road is nearing
completion.
2) Washington County: No one was present to give project report, but Jim
Lindsay expressed concerns about the limitations of the bridge program
as related to Dewey’s Bridge over the Champlain Canal. A new road
could easily be constructed for what it would cost to replace the bridge,
which doesn’t see much traffic. Aaron agreed that the proposed road
solution was something that A/GFTC generally concurs with but that
that is not a permissible solution within the current program. Funding
programs could change as part of the new federal highway bill.
3) Saratoga County (Preston Jenkins): The Spier Falls safety project had
good results, there are concerns about dark conditions along Route 9
between Exit 17 and the new intersection. Mr. Jenkins also expressed
concern with vehicular speeds exiting I-87 at Exit 17 to Route 9
northbound. Mary Anne Mariotti agreed forward these concerns to the
appropriate personnel at NYSDOT R1.
4) NYSDOT- (Mary Anne Mariotti): Design for the Route 4 project in
Hudson Falls is progressing; there will be public meeting in the
summer, the soil on John Street is being tested. The beams are being
installed for the Route 372 bridge project in Greenwich.

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Frank Bonafide reported that the new DOT Commissioner is Joan
McDonald. The Federal Transportation Act has been extended through
the end of September. The new bill could be ready at the end of the
fiscal year.
Joe Rich stated that the $38 billion included in the extension is
approximately 2/3 of what is needed for basic maintenance of the
existing transportation system.
Mitch Suprenant wanted to know the status of the 197 bridges over the
Hudson River. NYSDOT responded that work on the west branch
structure is scheduled to begin in spring of 2013. Because of recent
repairs, the east branch (concrete arch) structure is currently in better
condition than the west branch structure and it is not currently
programmed for rehabilitation or replacement.
Jeff Tennyson noted his concerns with state reimbursements for federal
aid project costs incurred at the local level. The delays have forced the
County to bond certain projects and increased project costs. Frank
Bonafide acknowledged the problem and noted that cash flow is an
issue for many state agencies.

C. Amendments and Modifications
1) City of Glens Falls request to reprioritize projects (Aaron): The City of
Glens Falls has requested adding the Broad Street project to the TIP,
while deferring the Hudson Avenue and Dix Avenue projects as
necessary to preserve fiscal constraint. The thirty-day public comment
period for this amendment is complete.

A motion was made to approve adding the Broad Street project to the TIP.

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Jim Lindsay MOTION CARRIED

2) Aviation Road scope expansion (Aaron): The Town of Queensbury has
requested a scope of expansion of the existing Aviation Road / Dixon
Road intersection project to include the entrance to Queensbury
Schools. Chairman Stec noted that installation of a right turn lane was
included as a possible alternative within the recently completed Aviation
Road Corridor Study. Aaron indicated that, working with NYSDOT R1,
we believe that we have found a sufficient amount of financial offset to
add the project. Additional funds for design have already been included.
3) Route 9 Outlets/Exit 20 ramp Discussion took place regarding the
possibility of a rear access road behind the outlets (east side of Rte 9).
There is land available for this road. The Town f Queensbury may come
forward with a more formal request for this project.

7. Other Items
Mr. Suprenant referred back to the Fort Edward Truck Access study and asked about
the recommendation for constructing a new access road between Route 4 and County
Route 37. Aaron stated that a TIP project request was never received from the Town.

8. Next meeting and adjourn

At 3:20 a motion was made to adjourn the meeting.

MOVED BY: Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ed Bartholomew MOTION CARRIED

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MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC January 27, 2011
Attendees Agency
Members
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls DPW
Edward Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Frank Bonafide NYSDOT-Region 1
Robert Cherry NYSDOT-Region 1
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Steven Sweeney NYSCC
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Others

Jocelyn Blanchard SAIL
Edward Doughney Warren County DPW
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC
Monika Bulman A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:30

2. Visitor Issues – Aaron introduced Jocelyn Blanchard, the Coordinator for the Southern
Adirondack Independent Living Center located at Glenwood Avenue. The role of the
Center is to be an advocate for people with disabilities and Ms. Blanchard’s interest in
coming to a meeting is to learn more about transportation options available for
individuals who cannot drive and to make certain that ADA compliance is given
consideration. Aaron noted that part of the A/GFTC program, both through planning and
capital improvements is for non-motorized transportation. The update of the Coordinated
Human Services Transportation Plan for the region is programmed for this upcoming
year. Ms. Blanchard was invited to assist with the update of the HSTP.

3. Administrative Items –
A. TAC Co-chairman election results: Aaron reported that the TAC elected Mike Valentine
to co-chair that committee. He will be the TAC signatory and preside over any issues
raised that involve potential staff conflicts.
B. Operations Plan/Host Agency agreement: Aaron stated that there was nothing to
report other than the RPB was successful in getting loan to cover short-term gaps
between paying A/GFTC expenses and receiving reimbursements.
C. Revision of billing procedures: Aaron reported Region 1 staff and AGFTC staff have
had extensive discussions regarding billing practices that apparently were somewhat
unusual when compared to other MPOs in the State. The A/GFTC program is
reconciled on an annual basis with the UPWP rather than a monthly basis. We will try
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to resort to a reporting methodology that is consistently more proportional on a
month to month basis. It is hoped that this lessens the concerns of the Expenditures
Unit at DOT. Rob Cherry noted that the outcome from the meetings regarding the
above situation has been met with favorable feedback.

4. Transit
A. GGFT Update: Scott Sopczyk reported the following: In 2010, overall ridership was
on fixed routes was up 3% and trolleys and FAME were up 2%. Typically as the
economy improves, ridership numbers increase. The new low floor buses used last
year were very well received. Delivery of a hybrid low floor bus is expected in about
6-8 weeks. Two replacement vehicles will be procured for the FAME service. The
Transit Development Plan was completed several years ago and public outreach for
changes will hopefully take place soon once the Governor’s budget comes out. Bolton
and the Lake George Chamber of Commerce have been in touch with GGFT
concerning changing some trolley service. Wayne LaMothe asked if GGFT services are
provided to Warrensburg. Currently it is not, but the Town is completing their master
plan and would like to establish some kind of transit service. Scott Sopczyk pointed
out that in order to provide service to rural areas, a Service Agreement that provides
a local match is necessary.
5. Annual Work Program
A. Review of Staff and Consultant Activities
1. Local Transportation Planning and Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor (Aaron) – The plan has been completed. It
was well-received by the Town and has generated additional capital and
planning requests.
b. Glens Falls residential traffic calming (Aaron) – On hold until spring 2011.
Kathy Varney from GF Hospital is involved in advancing pedestrian issues
and through grants may be able to purchase some traffic calming devices
that could be loaned to various municipalities. Scott Sopczyk reported that
Glens Falls Schools are thinking of changing their starting time and
possibility changing the traffic pattern flow.
2. Travel Demand Modeling contract (Aaron) – A new, functional travel demand
Model (TransCAD) is in place. We are awaiting the final calibration,
methodology report and users guide to the model.
3. GIS Services contract – Sarah reported that not much is new since the last
meeting. Fountains Spatial finalized an agreement with us to host our traffic
count and projects viewers and make some updates as required. Our ridership
application is finished and our pavement application is 99.9% finished.
4. Village of Greenwich bicycle and pedestrian assessment (Sarah) -We have a
draft bike/ ped assessment for the Village that was conducted in the summer
and fall. It is out for comment to the Village and DOT. DOT Region 1 has
some questions regarding its content and what are we planning to do with the
assessment. Rob Cherry felt the document seemed to help to identify
conditions of existing facilities. Identifying where the specific needs are would
add value. Mr. Cherry was not certain what the intention of the assessment
was. Aaron pointed out that we wanted to provide the Village with an
inventory and some general strategies that they may wish to consider.
Additional discussion included ADA requirements. Ms. Blanchard requested a
copy of the draft.
5. iPoolNorth update (Sarah) -There are 96 enrolled users. We renewed our
contract with Ecology Environment. We are waiting for CDTC’s iPool2 to renew
to the upgraded platform Green Ride Connect. Wayne LaMothe asked what
the duration of this effort was and if he should direct interested parties to the
site. Aaron replied that it is ongoing effort with extensive prior commitment.

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B. Upcoming Activities
1. WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification (Aaron) – Met with Tom Jarrett to discuss
some of the needed data that we would need to run some preliminary traffic
analysis for Phase II of the Airport Industrial Park. The data should be
available in about a week. Our highway capacity software has finally been
delivered to us.
2. HUD Community Challenge grant (Aaron) – The City of Glens Falls was
successful in obtaining a grant that has elements of improving non-motorized
transportation. We have committed to work with the City to get the most out
of their investment. Ed Bartholomew reported there have been 2 three-hour
conferences with the representatives in Washington reviewing the budget. It
will probably be another 2 to 3 months before this project gets on the ground.
3. Queensbury commercial/industrial access road (Aaron) – Preliminary
discussion had taken place with Queensbury Supervisor Stec regarding
carrying this task as an element of the upcoming work program. The interest
was reaffirmed at a meeting on 1/26.
C. 2011-2012 Work Program – Aaron went over the summary that was distributed
around the table (handout). Only the known savings was programmed as opposed to
the estimated savings, which would have resulted in an additional $190,000 being
programmed. Mr. LaMothe noted that the current bike pedestrian plan was developed
in 2000. Warren County has appointed an advisory committee to develop
recommendations on new bike routes. The advisory committee asked that the
Planning Department help write the new plan and Mr. LaMothe wondered if A/GFTC
could assume a role in that process. Aaron felt we could help Warren County develop
their bike/ped plan and then incorporate that into our regional plan. Also discussed:
Exit 18 improvements originally included a bike lane that came down Luzerne and
Richardson to connect to the Feeder Canal. Kevin Hajos noted that those are being
progressed. Steve Sweeneyinformed the committee of the availability of a draft
Canalway Trail plan.

A motion was made to approve the draft UPWP for a 30 day public comment period, with the
inclusion of assistance to Warren County for their bicycle and pedestrian plan under Task 3.5
and additional revisions that are forthcoming from Mr. Cherry.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Scott Sopczyk MOTION CARRIED

6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1. Warren County (Kevin Hajos)-No significant development since last meeting;
Corinth Road has a skeleton crew doing underground utilities; Milton St.
Bridge in Warrensburg and the Alder Brook Bridge in Chestertown are shut
down for winter; Harrington Road Bridge is out to bid; propose to move the
Middleton Road Bridge about 1½ miles north of current location; Mr. Hajos
introduced Edward Doughney, Warren County’s new senior engineer. Mr.
Doughney will be involved with the federal aid projects. Mr. Doughney
proceeded to report that proposals have been received for four projects. One
project is the reconstruction of Hick’s Road; one is a bridge replacement in
Johnsburg; and two element-specific bridge projects: Lanfear Road and
Palisades Road.
Aaron added, based upon advice from NYSDOT that the Beach Road project
needs to be divided into 2 distinct phases, one that incorporates the County-
owned portions of the roadway and second that incorporates the state owned
portion.

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A motion was made to approve this modification

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Fiorillo MOTION CARRIED

Mr. LaMothe reported that the Warren County Planning Department is working
with ANCA, with DOT funding, to redefine the old Dude Ranch Trail. The Scenic
Byway will be replaced by the First Wilderness Trail.
2. Washington County, Scott Tracy-No new report: Dewey’s Bridge has been
closed to traffic; two public information meetings have been held regarding
County 61 over the Battenkill and a third meeting is planned with much
discussion centering on the design of the bridge.
3. Saratoga County, Mr. Jenkins-The project on Rte 9 near Exit 17 is about done.
It is a tremendous improvement.
4. NYSDOT, Frank Bonafide- NYS 9N over the Hudson was let last week; currently
there appear some savings on jobs, but those may not last long given
commodity pricing trends. Rte 4 is in design; the Route 9 safety project is
being advanced. Lorenzo DiStefano will be assuming some of Ozzie Priotti’s
responsibilities. He advised local project sponsors to continue to send in their
project reimbursement requests as FHWA was applying greater scrutiny
towards projects that appear to be inactive.
B. Amendments and Modifications
1. City of Glens Falls request to reprioritize projects (Aaron)-This was a
previously approved action by this committee to approve for public comment
the City’s request to reorganize their planned TIP projects which would replace
their existing number one priority, Hudson Avenue reconstruction and
rehabilitation, with a similar project for Broad Street, in turn delaying Hudson
Avenue and putting Hudson Avenue in Dix Avenue’s place. We were waiting
for comments from DOT regarding project justification. We have the approval
to move forward with public comment now.
C. Make the Connection solicitation (Sarah) – MTC is a reimbursement program tofill
gaps in bike/ped networks. In October, we sent a solicitation to municipalities and
received 8 proposals, requesting more money than we have. Four projects were
awarded: Warren County for shared use lanes along West Mountain Road; Warren
County for a new connection from the bikeway along Rte 149 to the Rte 9 outlets;
Village of Argyle, for sidewalks along Sheridan Street; Village of Granville (which was
a joint application between the Village and the Town) for sidewalks along Quaker
Street. Award letters have gone out to all of our successful municipalities informing
them that the next step is for them to meet with A/GFTC and Region 1 staff to discuss
the locally administered aid process. The selection process favored construction of
new facilities over maintenance related activities. Region 1 identified some concerns
with issues with the Granville application that have been resolved. A/GFTC staff will
revise application and ranking procedures to satisfy additional concerns raised by
NYSDOT staff.

7. Other Items: Discussion regarding the future transportation economic climate took
place. Region 1 expects to receive about $120-$140 million less than forecasted.
There is no sense of how much money will be available. Wayne LaMothe asked if the
Smart Growth Policy applied to existing roads and bridges. Rob Cherry replied that
this issue has not been resolved.

8. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – Policy Committee meeting will take place
in March.

Mr. LaMothe moved to adjourn the meeting at 3:25.