MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC June 14, 2011
Attendees Agency
Members
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls DPW
Edward Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Robert Cherry NYSDOT – Region 1
Edward Doughney Warren County DPW
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT – Region 1
Tori Riley Washington County LDC
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Michael Valentine Saratoga County Planning
Others

Greg Roy McFarland Johnson
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Kate Mance A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:30

2. Visitor Issues – There were no visitor issues.

3. Administrative Items
A. Personnel Update: Aaron introduced Kate Mance as the recently hired Senior
Transportation Planner, noting that after Sarah Gebbie-Measeck’s resignation,
approximately 20 potentially viable resumes were received and six interviews
conducted. Kate began work at A/GFTC last week. Aaron requested that the
committee ratify the hiring.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Stuart Baker MOTION CARRIED

B. Host Agency Agreement: Aaron noted that the current contract with the Lake
Champlain Lake George Regional Planning Board (RPB) is set to expire on July 1. A
smaller committee of the TAC looked into options concerning host agency options for
A/GFTC, namely whether to remain with the RPB or move to another agency. Most of
the sucommittee’s questions regarding the current arrangement were answered.
Aaron stated that his view was that, given the trend in federal agencies to favor
regional planning, A/GFTC should continue its arrangement with the RPB. Wayne
LaMothe asked whether the issues previously raised concerning the financial
arrangement have been addressed, and whether AGFTC has faced any issues with the
timing of reimbursement. Aaron explained that the RPB has taken steps to address
cash flow and ensure timely reimbursements. The DOT is strongly encouraging MPOs
to pursue a 10-year contract with host agencies. Scott Sopcyzk suggested a 5-year
contract with a 5-year renewal clause, if possible. A/GFTC has a draft contract from
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the RPB and Aaron will follow up with DOT on the contract term before executing the
contract.
C. Federal Reauthorization: Aaron noted that the Association of Metropolitan Planning
Organizations (AMPO) has obtained a copy of a draft transportation bill proposed by
the Obama administration that would call for the re-certification of all small MPOs,
subject to performance measures which have not yet been identified. A/GFTC is well
positioned to meet any performance measures, and NYS would be likely willing to re-
authorize MPOs, given that the duties would otherwise fall to DOT. There is also no
guarantee that the re-certification provision would be included in the final version of
the bill, as competing bills may set other thresholds. AMPO is circulating letters in
support of small MPOs, and Aaron noted that staff cannot directly lobby federal
agencies, but local elected officials can send letters of support. Resolutions from the
Boards of Supervisors would also be useful. A/GFTC can supply relevant information if
requested. If the MPO was dissolved, there would likely be a period of about 2 years
in which a transition plan would need to be created. Several committee members
requested copies of the draft letter.
4. Transit
A. GGFT Update (Scott Sopczyk): GGFT is in the process of instituting the service
changes as part of last year’s Transit Development Plan. This will provide the same
level of service with a 10% reduction in workforce, which was achieved through
attrition. Some services will be increased, notably Bay Road to ACC/Queensbury Town
Hall, and Glens Falls to Hudson Falls/Fort Edward. The schedule is also more regular.
This plan was put out for public comment, and GGFT worked to address comments
received. The Trolley service begins on a 7-day schedule on 6/25. A recent driver
recruitment effort was successful. The fleet is currently in good shape. Although there
are no immediate issues in terms of federal actions, there is word that a 35%
reduction in 5307 funds may be included in the next transportation bill. If enacted,
this would impact the maintenance of the fleet 4-5 years in the future. Wayne
LaMothe asked for details concerning current ridership and mileage. Scott noted that
annual ridership levels are at about 325,000, and mileage is at about 300,000. This
works out to 1.1 passengers/mile. The cost/hour of the service is the lowest in NY,
and the cost/mile is the second lowest. The cost/passenger trails only transit agencies
with a high proportion of students (such as in Ithaca and Syracuse).
B. Local Engineering Assistance Program (Scott): Creighton Manning was tasked with
designing the new pavement striping pattern under the Local Engineering Assistance
Program, and the City will mill and stripe the pavement in early July.
C. Website Update: Scott noted that enhancements to the website will go live in the next
few weeks. A Google map will be added for the bus routes, which will add
functionality to the site.
5. Annual Work Program
A. Review of Staff and Consultant Activities
1) Queensbury Connector Road RFP (Aaron): Twelve proposals were received on
June 3. A subcommittee comprised of Warren County DPW, T. of Queensbury
Commmunity Development, Washington County LDC, Region 1 Planning, and
the City of Glens Falls have volunteered to review the proposals. The
subcommittee discussed tentative dates to meet, and identified Tuesday, June
21 at 10 a.m. as a possible time. Ed Bartholomew will confirm his availability
to Aaron. NYSDOT may be able to conference in to the meeting as well.
2) Travel Demand Modeling contract (Aaron): The new model is complete. It will
will likely be used on the Queensbury Connector Road and the shovel-ready
site analysis.
3) iPoolNorth update (Aaron): Aaron and Kate attended a meeting at CDTC
offices on June 13 to review changes to the iPoolNorth software platform. The
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Connect. The current software will not be supported past 2012. CDTC and
A/GFTC will therefore upgrade the software at the same cost as the current
system. The targeted roll-out is August 2011. The new system will feature an
easier interface and greater local customization of the site. Scott asked about
whether the CDTC park and ride report was complete. Mike Valentine stated
that his understanding was that the report had not been advanced past the
BF&J presentation in March. Aaron will follow up with CDTC and report back.
B. Upcoming Activities
1) WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification (Aaron): A/GFTC has received information
about the Phase 1 buildouts, and will do the traffic analysis for Phase 2. To
complete this, the Hicks Road analysis will be needed. Ed Doughney noted that
GPI was conducting the analysis this week, and would have the information
forwarded to A/GFTC when it is available.
2) Bicycle Map update/reprint (Aaron): A/GFTC is running low on bike maps. The
Warren County Safe and Quality Biking Organization (SQBO) has requested a
number of additions to the map, mainly east-west connectors between
Queensbury and Glens Falls. These routes have not yet been endorsed by the
involved municipalities, and cannot therefore be added to the MPO-issued
map. Aaron has encouraged the SQBO to pursue getting these routes
endorsed by the municipalities. It may be necessary to order a short run of
maps while this effort is underway.
3) Warren County Bicycle Plan (Aaron): A/GFTC is creating a scope of work and
determining whether the Warren County Bike Plan can be an MPO product
given that recreation is a large component of the requested product. It is
possible that A/GFTC can assist with the inventory and conceptual connections,
and that a consultant can be brought in if needed. The next meeting of the
SQBO is on June 29
th. Ed Doughney asked if the plan would include similarities
to CDTC’s priority network. Aaron noted that the A/GFTC’s existing Bicycle and
Pedestrian Plan contained priority corridors that were similar to that concept
and an updated list could be an anticipated product. The intent is also to
produce a document that can be folded into a regional plan which includes the
whole MPO planning area.
4) Aaron noted two items not on the agenda. First, staff is waiting for the GGFT
route changes to go into effect prior to commencing the FTA passenger mile
survey. The recently completed GIS application will make this task faster.
Second, staff will begin work on updating the coordinated Human Services
Transportation Plan. This report was last completed 3-4 years ago, and will be
updated for 2012.
6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County (Ed Doughney): Corinth Road is about 75% complete and is
slated to be done in September, ahead of schedule, with reconstruction of the
north side of the roadway complete and coordination to move the power lines
and poles underway. Middleton Bridge is being designed using the relocated
alignment but has been a slow process. Milton St. Bridge in Warrensburg is
about 95% complete, with the water main and walkway being the main
outstanding items. Harrington Road Bridge has been delayed due to high water
levels, and DPW is looking to revise the design to compensate for
groundwater, with a target substantial completion target of September. Beach
Road has received NEPA concurrence and is moving forward with Design
Approval. There was an EPF grant received for pervious pavement for this
project – Ed is meeting tomorrow to identify issues relating to using this
pavement. The final design is anticipated to be complete a bit behind schedule,
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not be conducted during the summer tourist season. In response to a question
from Scott, Ed noted that this does not include the DEC portion of the project.
The Alder Brook Bridge is functionally complete after a slight delay from the
high water conditions, with full completion anticipated for August. DPW has
authorized preliminary design on four projects – Hicks Road, Lanfear Road
bridge over Stony Creek, Crane Mountain Road bridge, and Palisades Road
bridge over Brant Lake. In addition, two Make the Connection projects, the
Warren County Bikeway and West Mountain Road bicycle improvements, have
forwarded draft design reports to DOT for approval. DPW anticipates a fall
start on these two projects. Wayne asked whether the TIP amendment for
Broad Street is still going forward. Ed Bartholomew noted that the Common
Council is still pursuing that. Broad Street will not be as complex of a project
as Exit 18 or South Street. The South Street contract will be awarded to
Rifenburg Construction at meeting later that this evening (6/14/11).
2) Washington County: Scott Tracy was not present. Aaron noted that the County
12 bridge in Granville, originally slated for year 4 of the TIP, has been red
flagged and may need to be moved up. The program change could be
accommodated through the changes to the Dewey’s Bridge project. Also, the
CR 61 project has been revised to include a truss, based on the public’s
aesthetic concerns. Mary Anne Mariotti asked about the status was of the
CR10 bridge to Poultney. Aaron noted that the project lead was Vermont, and
that the project had lost some momentum because of the same water issues
facing Warren and Washington Counties. Aaron will look into what kind of
agreement is in place regarding the project and report back to DOT.
3) Saratoga County: Mike Valentine reported that there were no updates from
Saratoga County.
4) NYSDOT: Aaron asked Mary Anne Mariotti for an update on the Route 9 Safety
project in Moreau/South Glens Falls. Mary Anne will check on the status and
report back. The Route 372 bridge over the Battenkill project is on schedule,
with drainage and roadway construction currently underway. The I-87/CR10
project is also on schedule, with an anticipated construction end in June 2012.
The bridge should be open by November 2011. I-87 over Route 9 in
Pottersville has just been awarded; Mary Anne would report back on who had
won the award. I-87 from Exit 18 – Exit 24 is under construction; awaiting
approval from the Main Office for rustic guide railings. Route 9N bridge over
the Hudson is on schedule. Route 196 over the Champlain Canal bridge repair
is underway. I-87 over Gurney Lane bridge repair should be completed by
mid-August. In terms of the Making the Connection project in Argyle, the
project may need to include curbing in order to follow DOT standards. The DOT
residency is providing guidance regarding the extra cost associated with the
curbs. Mary Anne noted that it was a general concern of DOT that the local
participants in the MTC process be aware of the need to incorporate DOT
process and design standards, and that facilities cannot always be replaced in
kind. A pre-application meeting might be useful to let applicants know about
the issues before committing to the projects. Aaron noted that the changes
Mary Anne had submitted previously concerning the next solicitation were
received and would be incorporated. Mike Valentine asked about the status of
the Granville MTC project. Aaron noted that the resident engineer asked that
the sidewalk be moved to the other side of the road, which will require
additional crosswalks. The change will provide added benefits in terms of
pedestrian/vehicle separation and requiring less curbing. Rob Cherry noted
that NYSDOT is still working towards a smart growth policy, and that the policy
could be adapted to solicit projects in the future. Thresholds have yet to be
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B. Amendments and Modifications: none.
7. Other Items: Wayne LaMothe noted that Warren County is sponsoring a
gateway/streetscape project on Route 9 in Pottersville. Cynthia Behan is the consultant
working on the concept design. Wayne and Cynthia met with Mark Kennedy at DOT
Region 1 to incorporate required design and signage elements. The project will require a
DOT permit. Wayne is requesting technical assistance from A/GFTC to advance the
concept design to a point where the Town will be able to apply for a DOT permit. Aaron
noted that the MPO is already committed to the Town of Lake George for engineering
assistance, and will need to check availability. Aaron also noted that A/GFTC is advancing
the residential traffic calming study with engineering assistance, which will identify a
target speed for traffic calming improvements. The project will test a few design
improvements for efficacy, with the goal of identifying a model which could be deployed
in neighborhoods as needed. As part of that process, A/GFTC may need assistance from
Warren County DPW to help with deploying tubes for traffic counts. The Lake George
technical assistance project will commence once the residential traffic calming project is
complete. Rob Cherry asked if the Pottersville streetscape will involve access
management. Wayne stated that it would, especially where needed to incorporate
pedestrian improvements.
8. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – The next TAC meeting was tentatively
scheduled for mid-August.

Mr. LaMothe moved to adjourn the meeting at 3:20.

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Policy Committee Meeting
Minutes of Wednesday, March 9, 2011
Attendance:
Members
:
Ed Bartholomew, City of Glens Falls (rep. Jack Diamond)
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Frank Bonafide, NYSDOT Reg. 1 (rep. Mary Ivy)
Preston Jenkins, Supervisor, Town of Moreau
James Lindsay, Supervisor, Town of Kingsbury
Frank McCoy, Supervisor, Town of Lake George
Daniel Stec, Chairman, Warren County Board of Supervisors
Mitch Suprenant, Supervisor, Town of Ford Edward
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Michael Loftus)
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Thomas Wood)
Others
:
Michael Fiorillo, Village of Hudson Falls
Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti, NYSDOT-Region 1
Joseph Rich, Federal Highway Administration
Jeff Tennyson, Warren County DPW

A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Monika Bulman, Administrative Assistant

1. Welcome & Introductions
Chairman Dan Stec called the meeting to order at 1:37

2. Visitors Issues – None

3. Administration
A. Host Agency agreement (Aaron): Another municipality, the City of Glens Falls,
has presented itself as a possible host agency. GGFT has indicated that their
experience with having the City as a host has been positive. At times the
LC/LGRPB has experienced cash flow problems resulting in late payments to
consultants, but a bank loan recently acquired by the RPB may help avoid
future late payments.

A motion was made to establish a committee to explore alternative hosting
arrangements.

MOVED BY : Jeff Tennyson SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

4. Transit
A. 5310 Program- (Aaron) This is a federally funded, state administered program
for vehicle purchases for private not-for-profit transportation providers that
serve elderly and disabled passengers. The deadline to submit applications is
May 4, 2011. A/GFTC will assist in the review and selection of applicants.

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B. GGFT Update – In absence of a full report from GGFT, Aaron briefly noted that
GGFT was planning to hold public workshops to present possible service
changes as identified in the Transit Development Plan.

5. Annual Work Program
A. Review of Staff and Consultant Activities
1) Local Transportation Planning and Engineering Assistance Program
a. Glens Falls residential traffic calming (Aaron): RSG is continuing
to work on the methodology for a spring 2011 deployment of
data collection and neighbor surveys.
b. Request from GGFT for design services (Aaron): GGFT has
requested using our Local Traffic Engineering Assistance
Program with design, striping, signing and utilization of space at
City Hall for the bus terminal. This would also include specs for
materials. The program has sufficient funds to carry this project
and no committee approval is required to advance this.
c. Request from Town of Lake George (Aaron): Stemming from
their recent gateway corridor study facilitated by A/GFTC, the
Town of Lake George has requested assistance for development
of a wayfinding signing plan. Mr. McCoy reported that currently
the corridor has cluttered signage and lacks pedestrian and
landscaping. Improved signage is the first step in the Town’s
vision for an improved corridor. Frank Bonafide noted that signs
placed in state rights-of-way would require DOT review. Aaron
recommended that this project be initiated following completion
of the GGFT and City of Glens Falls projects noted above. Mr.
McCoy stated that this was acceptable.
2) Travel Demand Modeling contract (Aaron): Warner Transportation
Consulting is completing the methodology report and users guide for
the new model, and is also attempting to reconcile model outputs with
data used by the Interagency Consultation Group in their review of air
quality conformity. The entire project should be completed within two
months.
3) GIS Services contract (Aaron): The data collection tools are complete
and include a transit passenger data collection tool (this will allow us to
assist GGFT with FTA ridership requirements), pavement scoring data
collection device and on-line TIP project and traffic count browsers.
GGFT has requested a transit map browser which we will work over the
course of the upcoming state fiscal year pending UPWP approval.
4) iPoolNorth update (Aaron): We currently have 115 people signed up.
The increase is due to Glens Falls Hospital publicizing the program to its
employees. Additional increases are likely to coincide with rising fuel
costs.
B. Upcoming Activities
1) WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification (Aaron): A preliminary traffic
generation estimate for IDA in support of their shovel-ready
certification request from New York State is on hold pending data
collection done on behalf of Warren County as part of the Hicks Road
reconstruction.
2) Bicycle Map update/reprint (Aaron): Reprinting of the regional bicycle
map is on-hold as Queensbury and Glens Falls consider designating
additional on-street bicycle routes.

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C. 2011-2012 Work Program
1) Review of Draft (Handout): Aaron summarized the work program and
pointed out that we had to make a change of $142.00 from the initial
draft. The total program amount is $656,799. We are anticipating an
additional $190K carryover in savings from the 2010-2011 year but,
because those savings have not been released by FHWA, they were not
included in the draft program. Without these funds, A/GFTC has
adequate funds to accomplish the tasks in the UPWP. If we find that
mid-year we need the carryover funds for additional tasks, the UPWP
can be amended.

A motion was made to approve the 2011-2012 UPWP.

MOVED BY : Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

6. TIP
A. Make the Connection (MTC) Awards (Aaron): Four projects were awarded:
Warren County for establishing bicycle space along West Mountain Road;
Warren County for the bikeway a new connection between the Warren County
Bikeway and the factory outlet stores on Route 9; Village of Argyle for
sidewalks along Sheridan Street; Village of Granville (joint venture with Town)
for sidewalks. Recommendations for improvements to the application and the
selection process are a high priority. Jeff Tennyson wondered if some of the
additional UPWP funds could be used towards the development of stronger
MTC projects. Aaron noted that A/GFTC was not leaving the additional funds
on the table but that those were savings from prior years and that the TAC
could explore MTC project development in greater detail as the year
progressed.

B. Project Updates
1) Warren County (Jeff Tennyson) Consultant selection for Crane Mountain
Road Bridge (Creighton Manning Engineering) and Hicks Road
reconstruction (Greenman – Pedersen Inc.) has taken place; bids are in
for Harrington Road Bridge; the utility phase for Corinth Road is nearing
completion.
2) Washington County: No one was present to give project report, but Jim
Lindsay expressed concerns about the limitations of the bridge program
as related to Dewey’s Bridge over the Champlain Canal. A new road
could easily be constructed for what it would cost to replace the bridge,
which doesn’t see much traffic. Aaron agreed that the proposed road
solution was something that A/GFTC generally concurs with but that
that is not a permissible solution within the current program. Funding
programs could change as part of the new federal highway bill.
3) Saratoga County (Preston Jenkins): The Spier Falls safety project had
good results, there are concerns about dark conditions along Route 9
between Exit 17 and the new intersection. Mr. Jenkins also expressed
concern with vehicular speeds exiting I-87 at Exit 17 to Route 9
northbound. Mary Anne Mariotti agreed forward these concerns to the
appropriate personnel at NYSDOT R1.
4) NYSDOT- (Mary Anne Mariotti): Design for the Route 4 project in
Hudson Falls is progressing; there will be public meeting in the
summer, the soil on John Street is being tested. The beams are being
installed for the Route 372 bridge project in Greenwich.

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Frank Bonafide reported that the new DOT Commissioner is Joan
McDonald. The Federal Transportation Act has been extended through
the end of September. The new bill could be ready at the end of the
fiscal year.
Joe Rich stated that the $38 billion included in the extension is
approximately 2/3 of what is needed for basic maintenance of the
existing transportation system.
Mitch Suprenant wanted to know the status of the 197 bridges over the
Hudson River. NYSDOT responded that work on the west branch
structure is scheduled to begin in spring of 2013. Because of recent
repairs, the east branch (concrete arch) structure is currently in better
condition than the west branch structure and it is not currently
programmed for rehabilitation or replacement.
Jeff Tennyson noted his concerns with state reimbursements for federal
aid project costs incurred at the local level. The delays have forced the
County to bond certain projects and increased project costs. Frank
Bonafide acknowledged the problem and noted that cash flow is an
issue for many state agencies.

C. Amendments and Modifications
1) City of Glens Falls request to reprioritize projects (Aaron): The City of
Glens Falls has requested adding the Broad Street project to the TIP,
while deferring the Hudson Avenue and Dix Avenue projects as
necessary to preserve fiscal constraint. The thirty-day public comment
period for this amendment is complete.

A motion was made to approve adding the Broad Street project to the TIP.

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Jim Lindsay MOTION CARRIED

2) Aviation Road scope expansion (Aaron): The Town of Queensbury has
requested a scope of expansion of the existing Aviation Road / Dixon
Road intersection project to include the entrance to Queensbury
Schools. Chairman Stec noted that installation of a right turn lane was
included as a possible alternative within the recently completed Aviation
Road Corridor Study. Aaron indicated that, working with NYSDOT R1,
we believe that we have found a sufficient amount of financial offset to
add the project. Additional funds for design have already been included.
3) Route 9 Outlets/Exit 20 ramp Discussion took place regarding the
possibility of a rear access road behind the outlets (east side of Rte 9).
There is land available for this road. The Town f Queensbury may come
forward with a more formal request for this project.

7. Other Items
Mr. Suprenant referred back to the Fort Edward Truck Access study and asked about
the recommendation for constructing a new access road between Route 4 and County
Route 37. Aaron stated that a TIP project request was never received from the Town.

8. Next meeting and adjourn

At 3:20 a motion was made to adjourn the meeting.

MOVED BY: Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ed Bartholomew MOTION CARRIED

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MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC January 27, 2011
Attendees Agency
Members
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls DPW
Edward Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Frank Bonafide NYSDOT-Region 1
Robert Cherry NYSDOT-Region 1
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Steven Sweeney NYSCC
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Others

Jocelyn Blanchard SAIL
Edward Doughney Warren County DPW
Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC
Monika Bulman A/GFTC
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:30

2. Visitor Issues – Aaron introduced Jocelyn Blanchard, the Coordinator for the Southern
Adirondack Independent Living Center located at Glenwood Avenue. The role of the
Center is to be an advocate for people with disabilities and Ms. Blanchard’s interest in
coming to a meeting is to learn more about transportation options available for
individuals who cannot drive and to make certain that ADA compliance is given
consideration. Aaron noted that part of the A/GFTC program, both through planning and
capital improvements is for non-motorized transportation. The update of the Coordinated
Human Services Transportation Plan for the region is programmed for this upcoming
year. Ms. Blanchard was invited to assist with the update of the HSTP.

3. Administrative Items –
A. TAC Co-chairman election results: Aaron reported that the TAC elected Mike Valentine
to co-chair that committee. He will be the TAC signatory and preside over any issues
raised that involve potential staff conflicts.
B. Operations Plan/Host Agency agreement: Aaron stated that there was nothing to
report other than the RPB was successful in getting loan to cover short-term gaps
between paying A/GFTC expenses and receiving reimbursements.
C. Revision of billing procedures: Aaron reported Region 1 staff and AGFTC staff have
had extensive discussions regarding billing practices that apparently were somewhat
unusual when compared to other MPOs in the State. The A/GFTC program is
reconciled on an annual basis with the UPWP rather than a monthly basis. We will try
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to resort to a reporting methodology that is consistently more proportional on a
month to month basis. It is hoped that this lessens the concerns of the Expenditures
Unit at DOT. Rob Cherry noted that the outcome from the meetings regarding the
above situation has been met with favorable feedback.

4. Transit
A. GGFT Update: Scott Sopczyk reported the following: In 2010, overall ridership was
on fixed routes was up 3% and trolleys and FAME were up 2%. Typically as the
economy improves, ridership numbers increase. The new low floor buses used last
year were very well received. Delivery of a hybrid low floor bus is expected in about
6-8 weeks. Two replacement vehicles will be procured for the FAME service. The
Transit Development Plan was completed several years ago and public outreach for
changes will hopefully take place soon once the Governor’s budget comes out. Bolton
and the Lake George Chamber of Commerce have been in touch with GGFT
concerning changing some trolley service. Wayne LaMothe asked if GGFT services are
provided to Warrensburg. Currently it is not, but the Town is completing their master
plan and would like to establish some kind of transit service. Scott Sopczyk pointed
out that in order to provide service to rural areas, a Service Agreement that provides
a local match is necessary.
5. Annual Work Program
A. Review of Staff and Consultant Activities
1. Local Transportation Planning and Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor (Aaron) – The plan has been completed. It
was well-received by the Town and has generated additional capital and
planning requests.
b. Glens Falls residential traffic calming (Aaron) – On hold until spring 2011.
Kathy Varney from GF Hospital is involved in advancing pedestrian issues
and through grants may be able to purchase some traffic calming devices
that could be loaned to various municipalities. Scott Sopczyk reported that
Glens Falls Schools are thinking of changing their starting time and
possibility changing the traffic pattern flow.
2. Travel Demand Modeling contract (Aaron) – A new, functional travel demand
Model (TransCAD) is in place. We are awaiting the final calibration,
methodology report and users guide to the model.
3. GIS Services contract – Sarah reported that not much is new since the last
meeting. Fountains Spatial finalized an agreement with us to host our traffic
count and projects viewers and make some updates as required. Our ridership
application is finished and our pavement application is 99.9% finished.
4. Village of Greenwich bicycle and pedestrian assessment (Sarah) -We have a
draft bike/ ped assessment for the Village that was conducted in the summer
and fall. It is out for comment to the Village and DOT. DOT Region 1 has
some questions regarding its content and what are we planning to do with the
assessment. Rob Cherry felt the document seemed to help to identify
conditions of existing facilities. Identifying where the specific needs are would
add value. Mr. Cherry was not certain what the intention of the assessment
was. Aaron pointed out that we wanted to provide the Village with an
inventory and some general strategies that they may wish to consider.
Additional discussion included ADA requirements. Ms. Blanchard requested a
copy of the draft.
5. iPoolNorth update (Sarah) -There are 96 enrolled users. We renewed our
contract with Ecology Environment. We are waiting for CDTC’s iPool2 to renew
to the upgraded platform Green Ride Connect. Wayne LaMothe asked what
the duration of this effort was and if he should direct interested parties to the
site. Aaron replied that it is ongoing effort with extensive prior commitment.

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B. Upcoming Activities
1. WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification (Aaron) – Met with Tom Jarrett to discuss
some of the needed data that we would need to run some preliminary traffic
analysis for Phase II of the Airport Industrial Park. The data should be
available in about a week. Our highway capacity software has finally been
delivered to us.
2. HUD Community Challenge grant (Aaron) – The City of Glens Falls was
successful in obtaining a grant that has elements of improving non-motorized
transportation. We have committed to work with the City to get the most out
of their investment. Ed Bartholomew reported there have been 2 three-hour
conferences with the representatives in Washington reviewing the budget. It
will probably be another 2 to 3 months before this project gets on the ground.
3. Queensbury commercial/industrial access road (Aaron) – Preliminary
discussion had taken place with Queensbury Supervisor Stec regarding
carrying this task as an element of the upcoming work program. The interest
was reaffirmed at a meeting on 1/26.
C. 2011-2012 Work Program – Aaron went over the summary that was distributed
around the table (handout). Only the known savings was programmed as opposed to
the estimated savings, which would have resulted in an additional $190,000 being
programmed. Mr. LaMothe noted that the current bike pedestrian plan was developed
in 2000. Warren County has appointed an advisory committee to develop
recommendations on new bike routes. The advisory committee asked that the
Planning Department help write the new plan and Mr. LaMothe wondered if A/GFTC
could assume a role in that process. Aaron felt we could help Warren County develop
their bike/ped plan and then incorporate that into our regional plan. Also discussed:
Exit 18 improvements originally included a bike lane that came down Luzerne and
Richardson to connect to the Feeder Canal. Kevin Hajos noted that those are being
progressed. Steve Sweeneyinformed the committee of the availability of a draft
Canalway Trail plan.

A motion was made to approve the draft UPWP for a 30 day public comment period, with the
inclusion of assistance to Warren County for their bicycle and pedestrian plan under Task 3.5
and additional revisions that are forthcoming from Mr. Cherry.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Scott Sopczyk MOTION CARRIED

6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1. Warren County (Kevin Hajos)-No significant development since last meeting;
Corinth Road has a skeleton crew doing underground utilities; Milton St.
Bridge in Warrensburg and the Alder Brook Bridge in Chestertown are shut
down for winter; Harrington Road Bridge is out to bid; propose to move the
Middleton Road Bridge about 1½ miles north of current location; Mr. Hajos
introduced Edward Doughney, Warren County’s new senior engineer. Mr.
Doughney will be involved with the federal aid projects. Mr. Doughney
proceeded to report that proposals have been received for four projects. One
project is the reconstruction of Hick’s Road; one is a bridge replacement in
Johnsburg; and two element-specific bridge projects: Lanfear Road and
Palisades Road.
Aaron added, based upon advice from NYSDOT that the Beach Road project
needs to be divided into 2 distinct phases, one that incorporates the County-
owned portions of the roadway and second that incorporates the state owned
portion.

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A motion was made to approve this modification

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Fiorillo MOTION CARRIED

Mr. LaMothe reported that the Warren County Planning Department is working
with ANCA, with DOT funding, to redefine the old Dude Ranch Trail. The Scenic
Byway will be replaced by the First Wilderness Trail.
2. Washington County, Scott Tracy-No new report: Dewey’s Bridge has been
closed to traffic; two public information meetings have been held regarding
County 61 over the Battenkill and a third meeting is planned with much
discussion centering on the design of the bridge.
3. Saratoga County, Mr. Jenkins-The project on Rte 9 near Exit 17 is about done.
It is a tremendous improvement.
4. NYSDOT, Frank Bonafide- NYS 9N over the Hudson was let last week; currently
there appear some savings on jobs, but those may not last long given
commodity pricing trends. Rte 4 is in design; the Route 9 safety project is
being advanced. Lorenzo DiStefano will be assuming some of Ozzie Priotti’s
responsibilities. He advised local project sponsors to continue to send in their
project reimbursement requests as FHWA was applying greater scrutiny
towards projects that appear to be inactive.
B. Amendments and Modifications
1. City of Glens Falls request to reprioritize projects (Aaron)-This was a
previously approved action by this committee to approve for public comment
the City’s request to reorganize their planned TIP projects which would replace
their existing number one priority, Hudson Avenue reconstruction and
rehabilitation, with a similar project for Broad Street, in turn delaying Hudson
Avenue and putting Hudson Avenue in Dix Avenue’s place. We were waiting
for comments from DOT regarding project justification. We have the approval
to move forward with public comment now.
C. Make the Connection solicitation (Sarah) – MTC is a reimbursement program tofill
gaps in bike/ped networks. In October, we sent a solicitation to municipalities and
received 8 proposals, requesting more money than we have. Four projects were
awarded: Warren County for shared use lanes along West Mountain Road; Warren
County for a new connection from the bikeway along Rte 149 to the Rte 9 outlets;
Village of Argyle, for sidewalks along Sheridan Street; Village of Granville (which was
a joint application between the Village and the Town) for sidewalks along Quaker
Street. Award letters have gone out to all of our successful municipalities informing
them that the next step is for them to meet with A/GFTC and Region 1 staff to discuss
the locally administered aid process. The selection process favored construction of
new facilities over maintenance related activities. Region 1 identified some concerns
with issues with the Granville application that have been resolved. A/GFTC staff will
revise application and ranking procedures to satisfy additional concerns raised by
NYSDOT staff.

7. Other Items: Discussion regarding the future transportation economic climate took
place. Region 1 expects to receive about $120-$140 million less than forecasted.
There is no sense of how much money will be available. Wayne LaMothe asked if the
Smart Growth Policy applied to existing roads and bridges. Rob Cherry replied that
this issue has not been resolved.

8. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – Policy Committee meeting will take place
in March.

Mr. LaMothe moved to adjourn the meeting at 3:25.

Policy Committee Meeting Minutes

Friday, December 10, 2010

Members:

Ed Bartholomew, City of Glens Falls (rep. Jack Diamond)
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Rob Cherry, NYSDOT Region 1 (rep. Mary Ivey)
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Willard Peck)
Steve Sweeney, NYSCC (rep. William Rinaldi)

Others:

Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti, NYSDOT Region 1
Kevin Hajos, Warren County DPW
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
John Wheatley, EDC Warren County

A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck, Transportation Planner

1. Welcome and Introductions
In the absence of the Chair and Vice-Chair, Aaron called the meeting to order at
1:35 PM.

2. Visitor Issues
None

3. Administrative Items
A. TAC Co-chairman Election Results – Aaron reported that the TAC elected
Mike Valentine as the committee co-chair.
B. Operations Plan / Host Agency Agreement
The current host agency agreement with the Lake Champlain – Lake
George Regional Planning Board will expire in April 2012 and the
agreement takes about a year to renew. Aaron reported that the LCLGRPB
has been challenged to cover our finances due to late reimbursements from
NYSDOT. The LCLGRPB recently obtained a line of credit to help with these
cash flow issues and are agreeable to continuing to host A/GFTC. Wayne
LaMothe asked if there were other options. Warren County and the City of
Glens Falls were listed as possible alternatives.
C. In-kind Reporting
Aaron reported that A/GFTC will be contacting TAC and Policy Committee
members to request information that will allow staff to better document
committee member in-kind time.
4. Transit
A. GGFT Update
Scott Sopczyk reported GGFT capital projects have included adding two
new trolley buses to replace to old ones, executing a bid award for one new
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hybrid bus, completing the relocation of the Ridge Street transfer station
and the update of computer and telephone systems. A radio system
replacement and new in ground vehicle lift are planned for early 2011.

GGFT has seen 2010 ridership increase by approximately 2%. Work is
continuing on the implementation of the Transit Development Plan
recommendations. A new shared website with A/GFTC has been developed.
Scott also noted data (handout) that demonstrated, that despite the
comparatively small scale of its operations, GGFT achieved very low
operating costs per mile and operating costs per passenger

Discussion ensued regarding an estimate of the percentage of ridership
that originated from tourist trips. Scott estimated that approximately 1/3
of all trolley trips were taken by tourists. Bolton has also seen an increase
in ridership and GGFT will be looking into increasing the frequency of trips
to Bolton.

B. FTA 5310 Awards
Aaron reported that two out of the four applications from the A/GFTC area
were awarded FTA 5310 (services for elderly and disabled passengers)
funds – Community, Work & Independence (CWI) and Battenkill
Community Services. CWI’s application was ranked #1 statewide by
NYSDOT.

5. Annual Work Program
A. Review of Staff and Consultant Activities
1) Local Transportation Planning and Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor
Aaron reported that the Gateway Corridor study is essentially
final and anticipates that the Town of Lake George will
consider the document for adoption at its 12/13 meeting.
b. Glens Falls Residential Traffic Calming
Aaron reported RSG was hired as the consultant for this
project. A neighborhood walk through was conducted. The
methodology for the project will be refined over the winter
and data from demonstrations will be collected in the spring.
This will include assessing local residents’ perception of
vehicle speed. The primary concern of residents seems to be
speed of vehicles and safety for pedestrians.
2) Travel Demand Modeling Contract
Aaron reported that Warner Transportation Consulting has created a
working model continues to refine calibration. We should have a
complete model within another month and a half.
3) GIS Services Contract
Sarah reported that Fountains Spatial has completed a Traffic Count
viewer, a TIP Project viewer (both on the A/GFTC website) and a
Transit Ridership application (which will assist GGFT with calculating
their passengers per mile as required by FTA). The Pavement
Scoring application will completed very soon. The last of the issues
were being worked out this morning.

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4) Village of Greenwich Bicycle and Pedestrian Assessment
Sarah reported that, as part of A/GFTC’s UPWP and in conjunction
with the Washington County Healthy Communities Coalition, a
bike/ped assessment was completed for the Village of Greenwich
this past fall. Each Village street was assessed for bicycle and
pedestrian accessibility and assigned a score and then ranked. A
draft assessment was given to the Village for their comments and
then A/GFTC will open it up to NYSDOT comments.
5) iPoolNorth Update
Sarah reported that Ecology and Environment agreed to lower the
annual maintenance fee from $10,000 to $7,900 for iPoolNorth
based on the smaller user base. iPoolNorth currently has 94 users.
We will upgrade to new platform (GreenRide Connect) when CDTC
(ipool2 is the Capital District’s ridesharing site) does. A/GFTC is
considering expanding iPoolNorth to include commuters in Essex
County. Mary Anne Mariotti asked to be notified as to what A/GFTC
decides to do.
B. Upcoming Activities
1) WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification
Aaron reported that the WWIDA asked A/GFTC for assistance with
completing an informal traffic impact analysis in order to obtain
shovel ready certification. An estimate to complete such an analysis
by a consultant would be $2,500. The TAC felt the WWIDA should
use their own funds for such an analysis. WWIDA presented this at
their last meeting and have decided not to hire a consultant, but will
request A/GFTC staff assistance to complete this. This is contingent
upon A/GFTC upgrading its HCS software and travel demand model,
which is currently being done. A/GFTC staff will complete as much
of the analysis as they feel they are capable of doing.
2) Bicycle Map Update / Reprint
Aaron reported that it is time to reprint and update the existing bike
map. There is one trail segment that is currently shown as stone
dust and it has since been paved. The Warren County Safe and
Quality Bicycling Organization has expressed an interest in having
the map show additional cycling routes, Aaron has indicated to both
Queensbury and Glens Falls that they will need municipal
designations of routes in order for them to be included on the map.
Wayne LaMothe noted that there is an interest to expand the
Warren County bikeway through Lake George and into the towns of
Warrensburg and Chestertown and would like to explore the process
for local municipalities to designate portions of State highways.
3) HUD Community Challenge Grant
Ed Bartholomew reported that the City of Glens Falls was awarded a
planning grant for $200,000. This will assist with planning for a
parking structure in downtown Glens Falls with the possibility for a
GGFT stop/access and housing for community elements such as the
Glens Falls Farmer’s Market and other festivities. A/GFTC has
agreed to provide staff time for in-kind services.
C. 2011-2012 Work Program
1) Candidates for inclusion
Aaron reported that GGFT has approached A/GFTC about adding
some upgraded mapping to the transit website. Aaron also
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doing a feasibility study for a connector road between Quaker
Road and Queensbury Avenue (south of the airport).Scott Sopczyk
added that A/GFTC could include a study to assess the park and
ride adequacy at each exit along I-87 and tie in with CDTA’s
current park and ride study (which only goes to Exit 20).
2) Solicitation
Aaron asked if the committee would like A/GFTC to go ahead with
a formal solicitation. The committee responded that yes a formal
solicitation should be conducted.
6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County
Kevin Hajos reported that Tannery Road bridge has been completed.
The Milton Street bridge has wrapped up construction for this year and
will finish next year. Corinth Road will have a skeleton crew working on
utilities over the winter and then full road reconstruction will begin in
the spring. Beach Road is still in the design phase. Harrington Road
bridge will go out to bid in 2011. The RFP just went out for Hicks Road
and Crane Mountain Road. Warren County will also be submitting a few
applications for the Make the Connection program.
2) Washington County – no report
3) Saratoga County
Mike Valentine reported that the Route 9 project at Exit 17N now has
striping in, but the light is not operational yet. Mary Anne Mariotti
reported that the light should be working by the end of the month.
Aaron noted that NYSDOT will be in contact with the Village of South
Glens Falls and the Town of Moreau regarding their safety project
shortly.
4) NYSDOT
Mary Anne reported that the Route 9 bridge over the Hudson River in
Hadley/Luzerne will be completed in 2012. The resurfacing of Route 9
and drainage on West Brook Road in Lake George is starting now. The
resurfacing of I-87 is complete to Exit 20. The two bridges on I-87 over
the Schroon River will resume March 1
st, 2011. Route 372 in the Town
of Easton will also resume March 1st, 2011. Trucks were not being
rerouted and DOT will work with online programs like mapquest and
google maps to fix this.
Aaron reported that he met with the Village of Hudson Falls and DOT
last week to confirm the Route 4 project design limits. The project will
be designed up to the Feeder Canal bridge.
Wayne LaMothe reported that Warren County is working with the Town
of Corinth to identify ways to increase the railroad services between the
two counties. Wayne also noted maps that the NYS Rail Plan needs to
be corrected to show that Warren County’s rail line is active. Wayne
would like to start an amendment process to clarify this with DOT.
B. Amendments and Modifications
1) City of Glens Falls request to reprioritize projects
Aaron reported that the City of Glens Falls has asked to reprioritize
their projects in the TIP. They would like to replace their number
one priority (Hudson Ave) with a new project (Broad Street) and
replace their number two priority (Dix Ave) with Hudson Avenue.
The TAC previously approved this amendment pending resolution of
questions posed by DOT, which is ongoing.

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C. Make the Connection Solicitation
Aaron reported that A/GFTC is soliciting for projects under the Make the
Connection program. In past years A/GFTC has been able to fund all
project applicants. This year we are anticipating more requests than we
can fund. We will be asking committee members to serve on a
subcommittee to rank and select project awards after the proposals are
due on December 15
th. Wayne LaMothe indicated he’d be available to serve
on that committee.

7. Other Items
None reported at this time

8. Next meeting and adjourn
Aaron reported that the TAC will meet in mid-January and mid February to approve
the draft 2011-2012 UPWP. The Policy Committee can then expect to meet again in
early March to adopt the final UPWP.

The meeting was adjourned at 3:00 PM

MEETING MINUTES OF THE A/GFTC TAC
October 19, 2010
10:00 – 11:30
Holden Room, Crandall Public Library
251 Glen Street, Glens Falls

Attendees Agency

Members
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury Community Development
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Tori Riley Washington County LDC
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT Region 1
Scott Sopczyk GGFT
Steve Sweeney NYS Canal Corporation
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning Department
Richard Wilson Washington County DPW
Walter Young LC-LG RPB

Staff
Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC

1. Welcome and Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at
10:05 AM.

2. Visitor Issues – none

3. Administrative Items

A. Co-chairman election – Aaron reported that the voting is currently in
progress. If a tie occurs the committee will deal with it at that time.
B. Items from August meeting – In regards to the Chocolate Moose RV
Campground issue that was brought up at the last TAC meeting, Aaron
reported that A/GFTC sent a letter to the Town of Fort Ann Planning Board
to let them know what staff services were available to them when
considering matters of regional transportation impact. A/GFTC also sent
along the resolution from the last meeting to DOT asking that they
consider requesting further analysis of the proposed campground. DOT did
apply additional consideration to the issue. They have indicated that in
granting the Town’s requested speed limit reduction, in conjunction with
the local enforcement efforts that were committed as part of the request as
well as the Campground’s intent to prohibit pedestrian trips out of the
facility, they are willing to issue thie required highway work permit pedning
site approval from the Adirondack Park Ageny. DOT also reaffirmed that a
stop light at Tripoli/Hadlock/149 intersection is still not warranted. Stu
Baker reported that the APA has approved the project.

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C. iPoolNorth contract – Sarah reported that A/GFTC has renewed a 3 year
contract with Ecology and Environment for $7,900 a year with a free
upgrade in website platform when CDTC upgrades in conjunction. This was
negotiated down from the $10,000 a year fee that was originally proposed.
D. Operations Plan / Host Agency agreement – Aaron reported that A/GFTC
will be drafting an operations plan. Stu Baker, Wayne LaMothe
(previously), Mike Valentine and Scott Sopczyk agreed to review the plan.
Part of the operations plan includes A/GFTC’s host agreement that will
expire in April 2012. Walter Young reported that the LCLGRPB is fine with
continuing to host A/GFTC aside from the occasional late reimbursements
from DOT. The LCLGRPB is applying for a line of credit from Glens Falls
National Bank to cover A/GFTC expense in the event of lapsed
reimbursements. The loan is still in the process of being approved.

4. Transit
A. GGFT Update – Scott Sopczyk reported that GGFT is still in the process of
completing its ARRA projects. The shelter at Ridge St. is done and much
improved over the old one. A bus is on order for March. They are also
replacing a lift in the garage but have incurred delay due to environmental
conditions. They will also be replacing FAME vehicles in 2011. Ridership is
up 3% for 2010. The trolley season is over and went well. More traffic back
up at 149/9 intersection is anticipated next summer. Scott asked about
consideration for directional signing that would encourage north- and
southbound freight traffic to use Exit 21 instead of Exit 20 to decrease
congestion. Aaron will speak with NYSDOT R1 regarding the warrants for
such signing.

5. UPWP
A. Consultant / Staff Activities
1) Local Traffic Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor – Aaron reported that the
draft plan includes strategies to address pedestrian issues,
stormwater runoff, and traffic calming. The Town of Lake
George wanted to know if DOT could build some of these
recommendations into their planned Route 9 pavement
reconstruction. Mary Anne Mariotti reported that the project
was already let and therefore they could not alter the design
at this point. Mary Anne will also make sure that a DOT
response to the draft Corridor plan has been sent to the
consultant.
b. Glens Falls residential traffic calming – Aaron reported that
A/GFTC received 2 proposals and selected the one from RSG.
2) Travel Demand Modeling contract – Aaron reported that the
consultant is still working on calibrating the model and anticipates
meeting with him in a couple weeks. A/GFTC has purchased the
TransCAD model software.
3) GIS Services contract – Sarah reported that Fountains Spatial has
completed a traffic count viewer that lists data on traffic counts on
the non-State system in the A/GFTC area. It can be found along
with the TIP project viewer on the A/GFTC website under the
Projects tab. A pavement application is also currently being created
to help A/GFTC and county DPWs score pavement. DOT provided
A/GFTC and DPW staff with a pavement score training session,

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which was very helpful and informative. Aaron reported that the
transit ridership application, also created by Fountains Spatial, will
be used this following Spring for GGFT’s triennial passenger mile
data collection requirements.
4) Village of Greenwich bicycle and pedestrian assessment – Sarah
reported that A/GFTC is currently halfway done with collecting data
for the assessment. Aaron and Sarah will go out again on October
22
nd to collect the rest of the data and will compile and create a
prioritized list of streets based on bicycle and pedestrian
accessibility for the Village. The Village will use this list to help
determine where improvements are needed and where to best
spend funds.
5) Bicycle map update – Sarah reported that A/GFTC will be updating
their bicycle map. A survey of other MPO bicycle maps was done to
see how many currently rate their roads based on bikeability. About
half do. Various members of the TAC noted that rating the roads
requires a lot of data and can be controversial. The ratings would
have to be defined. Jeff Tennyson noted that A/GFTC would have to
be cautious about avid bicycle groups pushing for funds to improve
roads based on the ratings given. It was also noted that preserving
the distinction between a map and a guide is important. Aaron has
told bicycle advocacy groups before that if they get a municipality to
designate a road as a bicycle route then it would be put on the map
as such.
6) WWIDA Shovel Ready Certification – Aaron reported that the
WWIDA has requested A/GFTC’s help with obtaining shovel ready
certification by satisfying the need for a traffic evaluation. A/GFTC’s
software for this kind of evaluation is currently out of date and
would cost $1,250 to purchase/update. CME gave a cost estimate of
$2,500 for a traffic evaluation. Mary Anne reported that Rob Cherry
did review CME’s scope and besides a few issues it would be
adequate. Mike Valentine felt it was reasonable to ask the WWIDA
to pay for the cost of CME to conduct the traffic evaluation in full.
Tori Riley agreed. Aaron will inform the IDA of the TAC’s decision.

6. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County – Jeff Tennyson reported that Tannery Bridge in
Stony Creek will be open soon. Construction has started on the Milton
St. Bridge in Warrensburg. The box beams are being set for the Alder
Brook Bridge in Chestertown. Corinth Rd. is still in the utility phase. A
thin overlay will be put down for traffic over the winter. Responsding to
an inquiry from Scott Sopczyk, Jeff will check to see if the Media Drive
intersection will be done before winter. Harrington Road just received
federal authorization. A winter bid and spring construction start are
anticipated. A mid- to late summer bid for a fall construction schedule
is anticipated for Beach Rd in order to avoid construction during peak
summer traffic. A public meeting will be held for this project on October
28
th at 6:30 PM at the Town of Lake George town hall. Jeff also
reported that the County’s current salvage policy (working salvage for
steel, cut stone etc into bids) has allowed them to save costs on
temporary bridges, culverts, bank stabilization other projects where
they can reuse the salvaged materials. He encouraged others to look
into similar policies.

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2) Washington County – Dick Wilson reported that he is still trying to
get up to speed on all the projects. He is aware that the railroad bridge
project in Whitehall is on a tight schedule, but plans to be done on
time. They have one more bridge deck to pour. The County is currently
trying to finish up projects. Aaron reported that Dewey’s Bridge over
the Champlain Canal is county owned and action does need to be taken
on it or the federal aid eligibility will expire. The County is not
interested in replacing it with another truss bridge. Aaron has asked
FHWA if the County can use federal funds to demolish it if it is not to be
replaced. Aaron also reported that he is working with DOT to address
the shortfall of funds for County Route 68 over Little White Creek due
to a technical issue with the STIP.
3) Saratoga County – Mike Valentine asked about the status of the
Route 9 project at Exit 17 and of the Route 9N bridge replacement over
the Hudson River in Hadley/Luzerne. Mary Anne Mariotti reported that
the Route 9 project was let in May 2010 and that the Route 9N bridge
replacement will be let January 2011. She will check on the status and
timing for both.
4) NYSDOT – Mary Anne Mariotti reported that Bob Hansen is officially
retired. Mary Anne’s group has lost 4 people to early retirement and the
entire DOT Region has lost 70 people. The two I-87 bridges will be done
next year. The Route 372 bridge in Greenwich had a delay, but should
be done next year as well. There are still problems being reported with
trucks hitting the railroad bridge over the project. The I-87 resurfacing
is largely complete to Exit 20 and the rustic rail has been replaced up to
Exit 23. There is a settlement issue with vertical curve on Route 149 in
Warren County that will be corrected next Spring.

B. Amendments and Modifications
1) City of Glens Falls request to reprioritize projects (handout) – Aaron
reported that the City of Glens Falls has requested a TIP
amendment that would effectively add a project for Broad Street as
their top priority, switch Hudson Avenue to their second priority and
take Dix Avenue off of the TIP. Aaron reported that a public
comment period and subsequent Policy Committee approval would
be required. Questions arose about cost estimates, project
description and fund sources. Aaron noted that the fund source and
cost estimates would have to be the same in order to preserve fiscal
constraint. A motion was made to forward this TIP amendment
request on to the Policy Committee (and open it for public
comment) pending the City adequately answers the questions
raised by the TAC regarding funding estimates.

MOTION BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

C. Make the Connection solicitation – Aaron reported that A/GFTC will send
out a solicitation for MTC projects soon. It is a $200,000 annual program
that is made available to the A/GFTC region. Projects must be municipally
sponsored. Jeff Tennyson asked if the construction of shoulders could be
included. Aaron would look into it and see if that was a fitting project. Jeff
also offered to share other ideas regarding improvement opportunities.
A/GFTC staff will follow up with Jeff prior to the new solicitation.

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7. Other Items – Mike Valentine asked about the status of Safe Routes to School.
Aaron noted that he was just on a conference call with DOT and the rest of the
MPOs in regards to the next SRTS and Transportation Enhancement Program
solicitations. There is currently one year of accrued funding for both programs.
SRTS would have only about $9 million available statewide and TEP would have
approximately $27 million available statewide.

8. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – Aaron reported that the next meeting will
be held sometime in January 2011. A Policy Committee meeting will be planned for
December. The meeting adjourned at 11:45 AM.

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August 18, 2010
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Attendees Agency

Members
Brian Abare Village of South Glens Falls DPW
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury Community Development
Ed Bartholomew City of Glens Falls
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Bob Hansen NYSDOT-Region 1
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning Department
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW
Scott Tracy Washington County DPW
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning Department

Others
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW
David King Lake George RV Park
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1

Staff
Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC

1. Welcome / Introductions – Aaron Frankenfeld called the meeting to order at 1:05 PM.

2. Visitor Issues

A. Dave King of the Lake George RV Park – wants to be involved in the discussion of and
offer his knowledge on the proposed Chocolate Moose RV Park on Route 149 in the
Town of Fort Ann. Mr. King stated that from his experience the proposed entrance
design is inadequate for the standing and storing of inflow traffic during peak times. A
600 ft, 2-lane entry is proposed and he would expect traffic to back up onto Route
149 as well as lack of access for emergency vehicles during peak days and hours. This
congestion is also made dangerous with the existing intersection of Tripoli Rd, the
curve and limited sight distance and the set speed of the Route 149.

Mr. King pointed out that due to the existing land use across from the proposed RV
park (mini-golf and ice cream parlor) that people will still attempt to cross the road
regardless of the pedestrian rules the RV park puts in place. This has potential for
pedestrian accidents.

The Chocolate Moose is proposed as a seasonal RV park as opposed to one that caters
towards shorter-term visits, but elements of their proposed development do not
appear to be consistent with that model.

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The traffic impacts and resulting congestion during peak times will decrease the
ability of emergency services to reach their destinations on an already congested
corridor.Mr. King suggested that creating a longer interior access road to the back of
the property would better handle the stacking of inflow traffic. The longer road as well
as appropriate screen along Route 149 would also discourage people from attempting
to cross Route 149 to access other attractions.

Discussion among the TAC included what action is Mr. King asking the TAC to take,
that the TAC was asked by the Town of Fort Ann at the last meeting to support
requesting DOT to do a speed/safety study for the 149 corridor, if there is anything
that can be done now since the Town Planning Board has already granted site
approval, if A/GFTC’s Access Management Guide could be used in this situation and if
a traffic impact study is needed. Mike Valentine sought assurance that these concerns
were not being raised by Mr. King on account of him owning a potentially competing
operation. Mr. King stated that these issues were not raised out of any sense of
economic self-interest.

A motion was made to encourage
the Department to require that a traffic study that
better quantified both the site-specific and corridor-wide traffic impacts of the
proposed development be conducted prior to the issuance of the driveway permit, and
that that responsibility be placed on the applicant.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Ed Bartholomew MOTION CARRIED
Bob Hansen abstained

A motion was made to send a letter to the Town of Fort Ann Planning Board and offer
assistance with future site plan reviews of regional impact and c.c. the Washington
County Planning Board Chairman.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

3. Administrative Items

A. TAC structure / meeting administration – Aaron – We are currently without a TAC
chair and TAC co-chair due to Willy Grimmke’s departure and Bill Lamy’s retirement.
Past committee chairs have felt it was harder to be involved in TAC discussions while
also running the meeting, but there is some value to filling the position as it is
periodically necessary to process ongoing MPO activities.

A motion was made to recommend to the Policy Committee that Aaron would chair
the TAC for the purpose of running meetings, while a TAC member would be
appointed Co-Chair that could handle occasional administrative items or run meetings
in Aaron’s absence.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

B. Sustainable Communities Grant Application Resolution – Aaron – the City of Glens
Falls is applying for a regional grant and the MPO is a required participant. The Policy
Committee approved and signed a resolution for A/GFTC’s participation and the
contribution of in kind services as needed to the project. Mr. Bartholomew stated that
most municipalities are on board and a few more will be approached for resolutions
this week. They are looking at a more regional approach (like the A/GFTC structure)
to planning and economic development. GGFT and SUNY Adirondack are also both on
board. Aaron noted the City of Glens Falls is also applying for a HUD Community
Challenge grant for that A/GFTC has also sent a letter of support.

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4. UPWP
A. Consultant / Staff Activities
1) GIS Services – Sarah – Fountain Spatial is working out the last few bugs with the
Traffic Count Viewer and we hope to make it available on our website soon. They
are also working on the pavement scoring application, which we hope to start
using this fall. Mr. Tennyson noted that Warren County would like to be involved
in the data collection and work together with A/GFTC to cover the entire County
system. Ms. Mariotti wanted to make sure we will be standardizing the data and
perhaps receiving training. Mr. Tennyson also noted pavement scoring training
with PDHs was available.

2) iPoolNorth contract – Sarah – we are having issues with the lack of scalability of
pricing and no longer being able to communicate with ipool2 due to an upgrade on
their part. We have asked Ecology & Environment to look into scaling the
maintenance fee we pay for iPoolNorth to reflect the fewer users we have
compared to ipool2 in the Capital District. We will wait to hear from Ecology &
Environment before pursuing other options.

3) Road Safety Assessment training – Sarah – the 2-day workshop was offered by
FHWA and was well received by the participants. Mr. Baker noted the outdoor case
study was very helpful. Aaron would like to require Road Safety Assessments for
each TIP highway project. Mr. Tennyson agreed as long as it was offered to non-
TIP projects as well. Aaron noted that it was already in our UPWP to offer RSAs to
non-TIP projects at the request of the project owner. Mr. Hansen noted that
identifying needed safety improvements could help projects get partially funded
by safety funds.

A motion was made to require Road Safety Assessments for each TIP project.

MOVED BY: Stu Baker SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

4) Travel Demand Modeling – Aaron – Aaron, Marc Warner of Warner Transportation
Consulting Services, Chris O’Neill of CDTC and Nathan Erlbaum of DOT met
recently to discuss the model for A/GFTC and issues that Marc Warner is
encountering with model calibration. We hope to receive a final model by the end
of this year.

5) Local Traffic Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor – Aaron – Chazen Companies is working with
the Town of Lake George to plan improvements to the entrance/gateway
corridor from Exit 21 north into the Village along Route 9. A public meeting has
been held and a second public meeting is scheduled to coincide with the Town
Board meeting in September. The result will be a conceptual map, list of
recommendations and a firm list of funding sources.

b. Residential Traffic Calming Demonstration Project – Aaron – The City of Glens
Falls is requesting assistance with a traffic calming demonstration project on a
residential street. Lincoln Avenue residents approached the City’s Board of
Public Safety with concerns about vehicle speed and children walking to the
nearby schools. Aaron disclosed that he lives on Lincoln Avenue but was not
involved in his neighbors’ efforts to raise the issue. The residential traffic
calming demonstration project was offered to the City of Glens Falls when
Scott Sopczyk was A/GFTC Director but the City never acted on the original
offer. The $20,000 study budget could potentially allow for analyses of
multiple locations.

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A motion was made to accept the City of Glens Falls request to conduct a
residential traffic calming demonstration project and to share the study results
with other municipalities.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine
MOTION CARRIED

c. Greenwich Bicycle/Pedestrian Assessment – Sarah – As part of our UPWP and
part of the Healthy Communities Coalition of Washington County we are
providing a bicycle/pedestrian assessment to the Village of Greenwich. Mr.
Tennyson noted that the Town of Queensbury had approached him about
bicycle improvements and stated that if there were bicycle improvement funds
available the County could potentially make use of them. Aaron noted that we
do have the Make the Connection program specifically for filling in gaps in the
bicycle and pedestrian network. There is also potential for A/GFTC to offer staff
resources to help municipalities complete ADA transition plans.

B. Transit
1) GGFT Update – none provided

5. TIP
A. 2007-2012 TIP
1) Project Updates
a. Warren County – Kevin Hajos – Corinth Road, Alder Brook Bridge, Tannery
Street Bridge and Milton Street Bridge are all on schedule and under
construction. Mr. Tennyson asked about the Beach Road right of way
acquisition. Aaron noted it was held up by miscommunication on the E-STIP.
He will check with DOT on the STIP approval. Aaron relayed GGFT’s concern
about maintaining trolley service during the construction of Beach Road. Mr.
Tennyson noted there would be an 8:30 AM meeting on August 19
th with
primary stakeholders.

b. Washington County – Scott Tracy – Clinton Street and Division/Saunders
Street Bridges in Whitehall are slated to be completed by late 2010. A public
meeting for CR 61 over the Batten Kill (Buffum’s or Tackle Box Bridge) will be
held soon and the final design will be done soon after that.

c. Saratoga County – Mike Valentine – None, but eagerly anticipating the Spier
Falls intersection improvements.

d. NYSDOT – Mary Anne Mariotti – Construction is underway the aforementioned
Route 9 / Spier Falls Road intersection project. Exits 18 – 24 on I-87 are also
under construction with 1R resurfacing and replacement of rustic rail. Route 4
in Hudson Falls has a letting date of November 2011. The design is underway,
but the northern project limit has not been defined yet due to potential
drainage issues in the design process. Construction is anticipated for 2012.

Mr. Hansen noted that the constraints on the DOT budget are forcing state and
local system letting targets to be combined. DOT will have to decide the
appropriate splits. Scheduling will be more of an issue now. FHWA reviews will
lead to changes in construction management plans. Some discussion ensued
on eSTIP communication protocol. Warren and Washington County are late in
submitting ARRA 1R bills. The Regions have been directed to identify any
potential savings in ARRA projects.

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2) Amendments and Modifications – None

B. 2010-2015 TIP – None

6. Other Items – None

7. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – Aaron – the next meeting will be scheduled for
mid October.

A motion to adjourn at 3:10 PM was made.

MOVED BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Mike Fiorillo MOTION CARRIED

 

Policy Committee Meeting

Minutes of Tuesday, June 8, 2010

Attendance:

Members
:
Ed Bartholomew, City of Glens Falls (rep. Jack Diamond)
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Mary Ivey, NYSDOT Region 1
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW (rep. Fred Monroe)
Frank McCoy, Town of Lake George
Daniel Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Willard Peck)

Others
:
Stu Baker, Town of Queensbury
Michael Fiorillo, Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti, NYSDOT-Region 1
Joe Sullivan, City of Glens Falls DPW

A/GFTC Staff:

Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck, Transportation Planner

I. Welcome & Introductions
1. Chairman Dan Stec called the meeting to order at 1:37 PM

II. Visitors Issues
1. Route 149 Study Request
Aaron reported that the Town of Fort Ann sent him a letter requesting an accident
analysis and speed study for Route 149. DOT had previously done a speed study
in May 2006. According to NYSDOT Region 1 staff, it would not be inappropriate
for them to revisit the speed issue now. Aaron will send a letter to the Town of
Fort Ann supporting their request for NYSDOT to conduct a safety analysis and
speed study.

III. Administration
1. Approval of January, 2010 minutes

No approval of the minutes were made due to a lack of quorum.

IV. Transportation Improvement Program (TIP)
1. 2007-2012 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Amendment requests/summary
Aaron reported on the following TIP amendments that were processed since
the January 2010 meeting: Expanded I-87 paving (Exits 18-24), adding the
Make the Connection projects, County Route 12 and Lower Turnpike bridges.

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B. Recent Developments or Action Items for Ongoing Federal Aid Projects

i. NYSDOT
Ms. Mariotti reported that payments to contractors are sporadic, but
stimulus is being paid. They are currently adding up all the MPO TIP
amounts for the STIP. Ms. Ivey noted that the Lake Champlain bridge
has been awarded to Flat Iron. They have an aggressive schedule – the
proposed opening is 2011. Batchellerville Bridge has been awarded but
not let. Route 9P in Saratoga County has been let and awarded.
ii. Warren County DPW
Mr. Lamy reported that Corinth Rd is under construction. Milton St.
Bridge in Warrensburg was temporarily delayed due to utilities, but is
back on track now. Alder Brook bridge in Chester was been awarded.
Tannery Bridge in Stony Creek was delayed due to needing a temporary
pedestrian crossing to supplement Grist Mill Road Bridge as a detour.
Harrington Rd Bridge in Johnsburg is waiting on federal authorization.
Beach Rd will no longer include DEC as a project partner. Construction
is expected to begin in spring 2011. Glenwood Ave and Corinth Rd
(west of I-87) are both being milled and paved as part of the ARRA 1R
stimulus paving.
iii. Washington County DPW
None reported
iv. Saratoga County/Town of Moreau
None reported
v. City of Glens Falls
Mr. Bartholomew reported that the preliminary design for South St was
submitted to DOT. They expect to go to bid by Spring 2011. Mr.
Sullivan reported that Bay St is nearly complete and he is waiting to
hear from Mayor Diamond about finishing two sidewalks for the 2007
Make the Connection round of funding.
vi. Town of Queensbury
None reported

2. 2010 – 2015 Transportation Improvement Program
A. Review of Project Roster
Aaron asked if there were any comments on the proposed TIP. Mr. Lamy noted
that the Palisades Rd Bridge over the Spuytenduival Brook in Horicon was
previously ineligible for major rehabilitation because of the bridge rating but
was just recently yellow-flagged. Ms. Mariotti indicated that it might now be
eligible for element specific work.

Ms. Mariotti asked about the cost of the Route 9 safety project in South Glens
Falls. Aaron discussed that was a change in the project. There were previously
two projects, one to handle congestion mitigation with a roundabout, and one
was a safety project on Route 9. They were combined into one overarching
safety project that will address congestion with coordinated signals. This will
also allow sidewalks to be installed along Route 9 to address a gap in the
system. Mr. Valentine noted that he was pleased to see a project come from
the Route 9 Corridor Study done by BFJ in 2002.

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B. Approval of TIP/Self-Certification
Motion was made to approve the 2010-2015 TIP and Self-Certification
pending consensus approval from those voting members not in
attendance.

MOVED BY: Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Frank McCoy MOTION CARRIED

C. Air Quality Conformity Approval Authority – Aaron asked the Policy Committee
to defer approval of the conformity decision to the Technical Advisory
Committee. This will require another 30-day comment period.

V. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. GGFT Report – none

2. Consultant Projects
A. Travel Demand Model Upgrade – Aaron reported that Warner Transportation
Consulting is creating an expanded and more user friendly model for A/GFTC.
It should be complete in 3 to 4 months and then staff will receive training.

B. Lake George Corridor – A/GFTC has hired Chazen Companies to create
a streetscaping plan for the Route 9 Corridor entering Lake George from the
south. A public workshop is planned for July 7
th.

C. GIS Services – Sarah reported that Fountains Spatial has completed the TIP
project viewer (Google maps based viewer) and it is now on our website under
the Projects tab. They are working a similar viewer for traffic count data. A
desktop application for pavement scoring is also underway and we hope to
have it complete by the end of this summer.

3. Staff Activities – Aaron reported A/GFTC has moved to a new office location in
Glens Falls. We are planning on hosting a Road Safety Assessment training in
August. We had success with using the RSA process for Route 10 in Washington
County. It is currently in the TIP for $85,000, a low cost for potentially significant
safety improvements. We also sent out a letter to each member municipality
highlighting our availability to conduct RSAs, bicycle/pedestrian and sidewalk
assessments and the ability to retain a consultant for no more than $20,000 as we
are doing for the Town of the Lake George for the Lake George Gateway Corridor
study.

V. Other Items
None reported

VI. Adjourn

Motion was made to adjourn the meeting at 2:15 PM

MOVED BY: Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC April 14, 2010

Attendees Agency
Members
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury
Mike Fiorillo Village of Hudson Falls DPW
Willy Grimmke Washington County DPW
Preston Jenkins Town of Moreau
Bob Hansen NYSDOT-Region 1
William Lamy Warren County DPW
Jim Lindsay Town of Kingsbury
Scott Sopczyk Greater Glens Falls Transit
Mike Valentine Saratoga County Planning Department
Others
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1
Peter Faith GPI
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW
John Wheatley EDC of Warren County
Staff
Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC

Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome and Introductions – TAC Chair Willy Grimmke brought the meeting to order
at 10:05 AM.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items

A. Self –Certification – Aaron – the draft Self-Certification was made available for
committee review on the A/GFTC website. It is required as part of the TIP process. A
motion was made to approve the Self-Certification for Policy Committee
consideration.

MOVED BY: Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Scott Sopczyk MOTION CARRIED

B. Long Range Plan – Aaron – A/GFTC received FTA and FHWA approval on the LRP’s
conformity designation. The LRP is now officially completed and approved.

4. UPWP
A. Consultant / Staff Activities
1) Travel Demand Modeling – Aaron – A RFP was put out to upgrade and provide
a more user friendly modeling program for the office. Warner Transportation
Consulting was chosen as the consultant. There is a possibility that the office will
migrate away from VISUM and to TransCAD. Bob Hansen asked if TransCAD data
can easily be input into VISUM. It is assumed that the data can be interchanged.
2) GIS Services / Website updates – Sarah – Fountain Spatial has created a TIP
Project Viewer that is now available on the website under the Projects tab. It will
be updated as the TIP is updated. A similar Google Map-based application will be
created for our Traffic Counts data. Fountain Spatial also created a Transit
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Ridership Application that we are testing the last bugs out of now. This will also
evolve into a Pavement Scoring Application that the staff will use for local roads in
the Federal Aid Eligible road network. There is potential to score other roads as
requested. A/GFTC also recently revamped its current website, which includes
hosting the Greater Glens Falls Transit website. It is hoped this will give GGFT
more visibility and ability to post updated schedules and data as needed.
3) iPoolNorth – Sarah – iPoolNorth will have its one year anniversary on Earth
Day, April 22
nd. We will be challenging current iPoolNorth users to make one
transportation difference during the week of Earth Day and pushing the message
of iPoolNorth and the challenge to the public through the media. Mike Valentine
suggested we take this message to the school districts and let children take the
message home to their parents as well.
4) Local Traffic Engineering Assistance Program
a. Lake George Gateway Corridor – Aaron – the two school studies in
Glens Falls are done. There is currently a solicitation out for the Lake
George Gateway Corridor Plan. Responses are due today.
b. Solicitation – Aaron – Discussion ensued regarding taking on projects
first come/first serve or soliciting for projects and then ranking them
against each other. Aaron was concerned since the limit was raised to
$20,000 and local match was no longer required that we would be
overwhelmed with projects, but the Lake George Gateway Corridor is the
only one we’ve received so far. It was decided to stay with the first
come/first serve idea.
B. Transit
1) GGFT Update – Scott – A few of the TDP recommendations have been
implemented, including adding a midday run on Route 2 and extending Route 19
to the Village of Lake George more frequently. Will wait to implement other TDP
recommendations until the State budget finalizes. The ARRA projects are proving
difficult and tedious given the amount of money received. The smaller projects are
taking longer than anticipated.
2) JARC and New Freedom solicitation – Aaron – DOT issued a solicitation for
JARC (Job Access Reverse Commute) and New Freedom funds. If there are no
proposals received from small urban areas, DOT will open up the solicitation to
rural areas. Mike Valentine asked for an explanation of the programs. A/GFTC had
awarded the full JARC allocation to GGFT in 2009. GGFT opted to not pursue the
reimbursement award due to the administrative requirements attached to the
funding and not being able to meet those requirements while also undertaking
ARRA requirements.
3) NX Connector – Aaron – A/GFTC staff surveyed NX riders for feasibility of
connecting the NX and GGFT Route 5 trips. A minimum number of positive
responses were identified that would make the connection worthwhile. Discussion
ensued about NX and transit services on the Northway.

5. TIP
A. Project Updates
1) Warren County – Jeff – Corinth Rd. is underway and the detour had to be
implemented earlier than anticipated. Woolen Mill bridge will be demolished next
week. The area near Tannery Rd bridge has been cleared for a temporary bridge.
Bids have been received on the Alder Brook bridge. Contracts are being finalized
on the Stimulus 1R paving projects (Glenwood Avenue and Corinth Road west of
the Northway). Beach Rd is still in design and held up by DEC’s indecision on the
cost sharing agreement. DEC owns approximately 39% of the roadway and
therefore 39% of the project costs. If DEC backs out of the project that portion of
the project will not get done and therefore the project cost will decrease. Jeff
asked if that funding will stay in the MPO or not – Aaron responded that that 39%
was not necessarily programmed into the current TIP.

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2) Washington County – Willy – The 1Rs went to bid and were awarded. The
major drainage on the Whitehall bridges have been done. The Clinton Street
bridge has been demolished. County Route 61 will have a design report in June or
July. Working on incorporating the Lower Turnpike bridge into the project design
report for County Route 12. Trying to get the demolition for Dewey’s Bridge
funded. County Route 10 is waiting for DOT’s response on the project scope.

3) Saratoga County – Preston – The safety project at Route 9 and Spier Falls Rd
is planned for a December completion. The lights were changed at the Route 9
and 197 intersection allowing for protected SB left turn phase. Traffic tickets have
been issued and the population is starting to adjust their behavior, therefore
making a safer intersection.

4) NYSDOT – Bob – The Department is on a week-to-week budget. All projects
except the Crown Point bridge have been pushed to a April 29
th letting date.
Crown Point bridge is scheduled to be led on 4/15/10. DOT is paying ARRA and
CHIPs bills, but holding payment on all other bills.

B. Amendments and Modifications – Aaron – no new TIP amendments, but gave a list of
the amendments that have been added since 1/1/10.
• I-87 resurfacing was extended to exit 24
• South Street earmark added
• Funds were added to the Alder Brook project
• Right of Way was added to Beach Rd project

C. Draft 2010-2015 TIP
1) Draft Roster of Projects – Aaron – although this our smallest program since
2003, this draft program prepared in conjunction with Region 1 staff and based
upon the results of our Project Prioritization meeting addresses a number of
substantial transportation needs.
a. Review / Questions – Scott asked if JARC and New Freedom needed to be
on the TIP. Aaron will look into that. Jeff pointed out that there was an
oversight with not carrying over a previous project into this TIP.
Middleton bridge was on the last TIP. It needs to be relocated on a trout
stream, which is expensive and requires adhering to DEC regulations.
There is a fair amount of funding flexibility that we will be able to put it
on this TIP. Aaron will need the schedule from Warren County ASAP to
put it on this TIP. Discussion about Harrington Rd bridge also came up.
It was in the last TIP but not on this TIP. Aaron was under the
impression that Warren County was going to obligate that during this
TIP period. Warren County will get federal authorization by October 1
st in
order to finish it during this TIP period. Mike asked if $1 million is
enough for the bike/ped set aside. Aaron pointed out that we are
moving from $500,000 to $1 million over a five year period by changing
from two solicitations of $250,000 to annual solicitations of $200,000.
b. Illustrative Projects – Aaron noted that we can identify program needs in
the TIP narrative, such as Exit 20 and functionally obsolete structures.
We should also add in the TIP narrative the projects that were submitted
for this TIP but were not able to be accommodated due to lack of
funding.
c. Approval for Public Comment – Aaron hopes that this document will lend
itself to public review more so than previous formats. Discussion ensued
regarding the adequacy of time following the comment period to
meaningfully address any public comment.

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d. Schedule – Aaron – TIP needs to be in Main Office by May 29
th. There is
discussion that NYMTC will be unable to meet that deadline, so if we are
a few days late (for example, if public comment generates the need for
significant revisions) we won’t be holding up the STIP. A motion was
made to accept the 2010-2015 TIP with changes made as discussed.

MOVED BY: Jim Lindsay SECONDED BY: Bob Hansen MOTION CARRIED

6. Other Items – None

7. Next meeting schedule and adjourn – Aaron – Next TAC meeting will be planned for
late June. A motion was made to adjourn the meeting.

MOVED BY: Jim Lindsay SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

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Policy Committee Meeting
Minutes of Wednesday, January 27, 2010

Attendance:
Members
:
Ralph Bentley, Supervisor, Town of Horicon
Bill Lamy, Warren County DPW (rep. F. Monroe)
Frank McCoy, Town of Lake George
Daniel Stec, Supervisor, Town of Queensbury
Steven Sweeney, NYS Canal Corp. (rep. Bill Rinaldi)
Mike Valentine, Saratoga County (rep. Willard Peck)
William Watkins, Wa shington County
Others
:
Stu Baker, Town of Queensbury
Ed Bartholomew, City of Glens Falls
Michael Fiorillo, Village of Hudson Falls
Willy Grimmke, Washington County DPW
Robert Hansen, NYSDOT Region 1
Wayne LaMothe, Warren County Planning
Mary Anne Mariotti, NYSDOT-Region 1
Patti Miller, Warren County STOP – DWI
Scott Sopczyk, GGFT
John Wheatley, EDC of Warren County

A/GFTC Staff:

Monika Bulman, Admini strative Assistant
Aaron Frankenfeld, Transportation Planning Director

I. Welcome & Introductions
1. Introductory remarks- Chairman Dan St ec called the meeting to order at
1:38 PM
II. Visitors Issues – None
III. Administration
1. Approval of March 4, 2009 minutes

Motion was made to approve the March 4, 2009 minutes

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

2. Approval of Officers 2010-2012, Aa ron-Every two years the chairmanship
for the PC and TAC rotates between Warren and Washington County. The
Policy Committee chair goes to Warre n County for two years and the
Technical Advisory Committee chair goes to Washington County. Policy
Committee: Dan Stec, Chai rman; Mike Suprenant, Vice Chairman; and Mary
Ivey, Secretary. Technical Advisory Committee: Willy Grimmke, Chairman;
Bill Lamy, Vice Chairman.

Motion was made to approve the Officers for 2010-2012

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

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3. Approval of Joint Cooperative Pla nning Agreement (handout), Aaron-On
November 18
th the TAC was provided with this agreement and asked to
review it and discuss it with the Policy Committee. This is a required
document that outlines the cooperative planning agreement among the MPO,
the State Department of Transportati on and the Transit Operator when
developing the major financial documents that guide the planning process.

Motion was made to allo w Aaron Frankenfeld to sign the agreement and
forward it to DOT and Transit for their respective signatures.

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Frank McCoy MOTION CARRIED

4. New contact information, Aaron-A/GFTC will be moving to a new space in
Glens Falls by February 10. The addr ess will be 11 South Street, Suite 203.
We will have new phone and fax numbers. The Washington County e-mail
extension will change to agftc.org. When all the contact information is in
place, it will be forwarde d to committee members.

IV. Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
1. GGFT Report (handout) Scott Sopczyk – Capital projects included the
procurement and delivery of new buse s; completed the Transportation
Development Plan; overall system riders hip was down 6.2% last year but can
be attributed to a service change during Americade week. Mr. Hansen
reported that CDTA was down 10% but not due to one event. Mr. Sopczyk’s
transit budget took into account anticipated cuts. Mr. Hansen still feels there
needs to be synergy between Glens Falls Transit and CDTA for interregional
transportation.

2. Consultant Projects
A. Transit Development Plan (Adoption)

Motion was made to adopt the Transit Development Plan

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED
B. Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan (Adoption), Mr. Stec told the PC
that on Monday night (1/25) the Town of Queensbury passed a
resolution adopting the Plan. Aaron said that by adopting the Plan the
concepts in the document are give n some programming weight. Some
concepts that have been speculated about for years have been put to
rest. The public meetin gs were well attended.

Motion was made to adopt the Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

C. School Circulation Studies, Aaron-The Abraham Wing (GFCSD) circulation
study has been completed. Big Cro ss (GFSD) study should be completed
shortly. The purpose of the studies was to assist the schools in coming up
with ideas to improve the school distri cts’ conditions for elementary school
students that walk or bike to school. Safety and congestion concerns were
reviewed. The crime and safety i ssue is difficult to address from a
transportation element. Other issues resulting from the studies:

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Non-standard sign placement, st aff parking, crosswalks, safety
education, crossing guard programs.

D. GIS Services, Aaron-Attempti ng to work out some technical
problems with the ridership tool used to collect data for laptop entry.
Have a very nice project visualization tool that shows where all the TIP
projects are, financial info, pictures, and programming information.
The contract will continue to the next state fiscal year to allow work on
a pavement management inventory tool.

3. Staff Activities A. Long Range Plan (Adoption), Aaron-The public comment period
closed at the first of the year. The plan has been under development
for four years and is the core planning document of the transportation
planning process. The Plan suppor ts our programming activities (TIP)
and our UPWP. Once we have MPO approval, it will be sent to
Environmental Sciences Bureau of DOT who will forward it to FHWA
and FTA. FHWA and FTA need to ap prove the air quality conformity
statement which also went out for public comment.

Motion was made to approve the Long Range Plan for adoption

MOVED BY : Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Bob Hansen MOTION CARRIED

Aaron extended his thanks to everyone who participated in preparing and
reviewing the document.

B. Proposed Work Program (UPWP) 2010-2011, (handout),Aaron
went over some of the accomplishments in 2009 as listed on the
handoutand reviewed how our funding works. We will be getting
$312,949 from FHWA and $43,722 from a Grant from FTA. Both of
those amounts are the same we re ceived last year. Our unspent
money will increase the pot by $235, 000. The money is distributed to
four categories: Program Suppo rt and Administration, General
Development and Comprehensive Pla nning, Long Range Transportation
Planning and Transportation Improvement Program. Since there is no
large engineering study planned for 2010, the focus will go to assist
member municipalities in providing local engineering traffic consulting
services. This is how the school studies were funded. The Lake
Luzerne concept of intersection realignment and a streetscape design
project for Mr. McCoy, in the To wn of Lake George, are current
candidates for engineerin g services. Aaron would also like to get out
some safety roadside assessments contracts. The above fall under
Task 2. Under Task 3 an upgrade to the travel demand model is a
priority. An RFP is out for this. Also, hope to update the regional
bicycle and pedestrian plan. Before we can go forward with the Fort
Edward/Kingsbury Canal Corridor Indust rial Area Re-use Plan, we need
some direction from Washington Count y. Task 4 is the Transportation
Improvement Program. Project soli citation is out. Should have
projects returned to our offi ce by the end of the week.

Motion was made to approve the draft UPWP for a 30 day public comment
period

MOVED BY : Mike Valentine SECONDED BY: Frank McCoy MOTION CARRIED

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V. Transportation Improvement Program(TIP)
1. 2010-2015 Transportation Improvement Program, Aaron
A. Project Solicitation-due by the end of the week
B. Allocations, the sub-allocations provided to A/GFTC are smaller
than what we are accustomed to. Adjustments will have to be
made to the program as a resu lt. We are getting some new
highway project candidates. We will have more projects than the
program can support.

Mr. Hansen pointed out that the numbers that are out now are
conjecture and we won’t really kn ow where we stand until the next
highway act comes through.

C. Program Reconciliation (discussed above)
D. Second stimulus round- Mr. Hansen, The House bill is pretty well
formulated. The Senate appears to be the sticking point. What
we can expect is probably around another $100mil for the Region,
a very short time to put a project out on the street, project has to
be shovel ready, ROWs need to be done. On Stimulus 1, FHWA is
aggressively monitoring construction specs.

2. 2007-12 TIP
A. Amendment request – I- 87/Pottersville, Aaron-Half of the project
was programmed (replacing only one of the two structures) but
now it is better to have both structures replaced at the same time.
We will adjust the Interstate Maintenance funds to comply with
DOT’s request. This amendment request was approved by the TAC
but because of the $ scale, a pub lic comment period was required.
It has been out for public comment and closed on January 23,
2010 with no comment.

Motion was made to approve amendm ent request for I-87/Pottersville

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

Aaron- We missed a TIP update cycle because of the challenges some of the other
MPOs had in putting together a TIP. Some of the larger MPOs are struggling with the
TIP timeframe again. If one MPO in the Stat e fails to deliver a TIP, then there is no
STIP. DOT has asked us to approve language in the TIP and state that the 4
th year
of our TIP program can be rolled up into the STIP.

Motion was made to change the language in the TIP from 3
rd to 4th year

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED
B. Other Amendments-(handout), Aaron-one needs an administrative
change and deals with the railroad bridges in Whitehall.
The next amendment is a rail project initiative and is not a formal
amendment. This is a service upgrade.

Motion was made to approve the amendment requests from NYSDOT

MOVED BY : Ralph Bentley SECONDED BY: Mike Valentine MOTION CARRIED

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C. Recent developments or action items for ongoing federal aid
projects
a) New York State Department of Transportation, Bob Hansen-
Batchellerville Bridge-next week CD TC will entertain an amendment
to proceed with construction.NYSDOT has replied to the Village of
Hudson Falls regarding the Rout e 4 project.Congressman Murphy
requested DOT to come up with suggestions for special line items.
Mr. Hansen came up with Main Street in South Glens Falls,
Roundabout at Burgoyne Avenue, and the Roundabout at Fort Ann.

b) Warren County DPW, Bill Lamy-Construction has started on the
Corinth Road/Exit 18 project; Milton Street has been awarded; the
second stimulus-funded bridge in Stony Creek will go to
construction this year; Alter Brook Bridge in the Town of Chester
should begin construction in 2010 ; Beach Road project should be
going to bid later in this year and construction should start in
2011.

c) Washington County DPW, Willy Grimmke-one stimulus project is
underway but is shut down for the winter, a portion of the drainage
work is complete and the bridge work will start in the spring;
County Rte 12 supplemental has been authorized.

d) Saratoga County/Town of Moreau, Mike Valentine-nothing to
present. Aaron met with Mr. Jenk ins when the project solicitation
went out. Mr. Jenkins pointed out a safety project that the
department had been planning for Rte 9. This project will be
reprogrammed.

e) City of Glens Falls, Ed Bartholomew-The City is waiting for the
official letter from Senator Schumer/DOT for the $970K grant for
So. Street.

f) Town of Queensbury, Mr. Stec- The Town is excited about Main
Street getting started.

VI. Proposed meeting schedule, Aaron-will probably have another PC meeting
in May to approve the TIP. TAC will probably meet in February.

VII. Other Items, Frank McCoy asked if he had to bring up his streetscape
project now. Aaron noted that A/GFTC should be able to provide some
assistance.Wayne LaMothe questioned whether the dollar amount of the
engineering service projects should be increased from $10K to 20K since we
do not have a big consulting project on the table this year. Aaron said we can
do this but we may not be able to do as many of them.

Motion was made to increase the small engineering projects to 20K

MOVED BY : Frank McCoy SECONDED BY: Ralph Bentley MOTION CARRIED

VIII. Motion made to adjo urn the meeting at 2:58.

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE A/GFTC TAC November 18, 2009
Attendees Agency Phone Fax
Members
Stu Baker Town of Queensbury 761-8222 745-4437
Brian Brockway Town of Fort Edward 747-5501 746-1071
Chris DeBolt Wash. County Planning 746-2290 746-2293
Willy Grimmke Wash. County DPW 746-2442 746-2441
Bob Hansen NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0456 388-0430
Wayne LaMothe Warren County Planning 761-6410 761-6411
William Lamy Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Joe Sullivan City of Glens Falls, DPW 761-3834 761-3874
Steven Sweeney NYS Canal Corp. 471-5033 471-5035
Mike Valentine Saratoga Co. Planning Bd. 884-4705 884-4780
Others

Robert Cherry NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0228 388-0430
Kevin Hajos Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772
Mary Anne Mariotti NYSDOT-Region 1 388-0439 388-0430
Keith Oborne Town of Queensbury 761-8265
Jeff Tennyson Warren County DPW 761-6556 623-2772

Staff

Aaron Frankenfeld A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Sarah Gebbie-Measeck A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Monika Bulman A/GFTC 746-2199 746-2441
Minutes of the Meeting

1. Welcome & Introductions –TAC Chair William Lamy called the meeting to
order at 10:08 am.

2. Visitor Issues – None

3. Administrative Items –
A. Conformity MOU, Aaron- This was an item already approved by the TAC via
mail ballot. FHWA suggested the MOU be developed between A/GFTC and CDTC
and basically outlining the planning relationships and responsibilities that need to
happen within the air quality non-attainment area. This document has been
reviewed, approved and with Mr. Lamy’s signature today will be sent to CDTC.

B. Joint Cooperative Planning Agreement, Aaron-(handout) This is a federal
requirement requesting us to develop an agreement among DOT, the transit
operator (GGFT) and the MPO to identify the joint responsibilities and develop
financial plans related to the federal transportation planning process. Mr. Sopczyk

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was not able to attend today and indicated a preference to be present for any
substantial discussion. Aaron suggested the TAC review the agreement and get
back to him with comments or suggestions. If there are no additional comments,
Aaron will sign the agreement.

Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP)
A. Consultant/Staff Activities
1) LRP update, Aaron- The draft LRP was approved by the TAC via ballot.
Going public with the draft long range plan hinges on the Interagency
Consultation Group (ICG), a statewide committee of resource agencies and
transportation organizations that is tasked with oversight of the air quality
conformity process. We are seeking conformity determination approval on our
document by stating that we are not having an impact upon conformity by not
having any substantial capacity related projects listed in the Town of Moreau.
We hope to be able to go out for public comment soon.

2) Exit 20 Corridor Management Plan, Aaron- This Plan is complete.
Copies are available on our web site and we have a limited number of paper
copies. The Plan accomplished what was intended. The consultants looked at
several of the bigger concepts that have floating around for years such as new
interchanges and a direct connection to the Great Escape. Mr. Lamy asked
what the next steps were to implement the study’s recommendations. The Plan
identifies some solutions and it now comes down to programming,
prioritization, and balance. The next step is to get TAC approval for the Plan
to be submitted to the Policy Committee to formally adopt the Plan. A motion
was made to have the Plan referred to the Policy Committee, DOT and to the
Town for their consideration.

MOVED BY: Wayne LaMothe SECONDED BY: Stu Baker MOTION CARRIED

Mr. Valentine asked if the Plan could be implemented in segments. Aaron
remarked that this is a very small corridor and there are various alternative
recommendations and does not feel this should be taken on in phases. A
brief discussion followed regarding if the involved parties have the will to
move forward with the recommendations/alternatives in the Plan. This plan
did not have a preferred alternative. Mr. Hansen pointed out that because of
the current financial turbulence facing New York State, there are no
guarantees when or if this project could even move forward.

3) Abe Wing/Big Cross Pedestrian Circulation Assessments, Aaron-These
school access studies were taken on as part of our local traffic engineering
assistance program. The Abe Wing document is completed. There are good
recommendations in the study and the school district is very interested in
some of them (crosswalk delineation, moving advance warning signs for
pedestrians around, changing the signalization of adjacent signalized
intersection). We are working on a similar document for the Big Cross School.
This is in a different school district (Abe Wing is in the FG Common School
District while Big Cross is in the GF Unified School District) and the process is a
little different. Hope to have a PTA meeting for Big Cross in December to
present some of the recommendations. The maximum cost for each of the
studies was $10K with no cost to the municipalities.

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4) Lake Luzerne intersection analysis, Aaron-This is a candidate project
for the local traffic engineering assistance program. The County Planning
Department brought his project to our attention. The request is to get
engineering assistance for redesigning an intersection to make it a more
conventional configuration. Mr. LaMothe presented the request on behalf of
the Town of Lake Luzerne. The County is working with the Town on a
streetscape program and the redesign of their main street. We have three
consultants on call for the local traffic engineering assistance program. The
TAC approved this study as a candidate project but Mr. Lamy wished to discuss
this project with Aaron before involving an outside consultant.

5) Travel Demand Modeling, Aaron-An RFP has been sent out to get an
outside consultant to come in and look at our traffic model in anticipation of
the non-attainment designation for the two-county area. This necessitates an
expansion of our current model from beyond the urban area (Exit 17 to Exit
23).

6) GIS Services/Website update, Sarah-Fountains Spatial has been
creating a ridership application, a program that will allow staff to ride the
transit buses and count the riders getting on and off and record the
information on a laptop. This replaces the old system of recording the data on
paper, coming back to the office and entering the information to the computer.
The program is currently being tested in-house to work out any possible
problems. Fountains Spatial has also done a web application that will give us
better transparency of our TIP and the TIP projects so the public can get a
better idea of what we are doing, when, where, how and why. This application
is ready to go and we are waiting for the A/GFTC website to be reformatted.
Sarah asked the committee to visit A/GFTC’s website and give us ideas on how
they think it can run better. The intent is to improve the layout, format, make
it user friendly, par down information. Mannix Marketing is our consultant.

7) iPoolNorth, Sarah-About seven months ago the iPoolNorth website was
set up. There are 68 members and the hope is to increase the membership to
100. A free give-away (reusable shopping bags) is offered as incentive to get
people to signup. Ads have been put in the newspapers and we are using other
resources to get people to participate in the program. One of the tools on
iPoolNorth is a commuter calendar and people using the program enter
information. The results from people using this tool: $1,000 has been saved
in fuel, over 2,000 lbs. of carbon dioxide has been prevented from entering the
air, and 90 trips were eliminated. Not all of the iPoolNorth users record
information on the commuter calendar.

The boundaries for iPoolNorth are for those commuting in or out of Warren,
Washington and Saratoga Counties. The program does interact with the
Capital District’s web site (iPool2). Other commuting boundaries were
discussed.

B. Transit
1) GGFT Update-Mr. Sopczyk was not in attendance

2) Transit Development Plan, Aaron-This study was recently completed
by Nelson/Nygaard. Elements reviewed: transit’s routing structure, public
surveys for transit riders and non-riders; scenarios for future funding.

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N/N came up with good recommendations; some of them are already being
considered for implementation by Mr. Sopczyk.

3) NX Connector Survey, Aaron-Sarah and Aaron have started surveying
passengers that are using the existing NX. This is a coach bus that goes
between Exit 17 (South Glens Falls Park and Ride Lot is on Marion Avenue
just west of Rte. 9) and downtown Albany. There is a stop in Clifton Park.
An attempt is being made to determine if the passengers would have an
interest in a local bus connection to the Park and Ride. GGFT has agreed to
try this as a pilot if we can demonstrate that there are a reasonable number
of riders willing to pay for it. Brief discussion regarding fare boxes, unified
swipe cards, single-seat rides and CDTA involvement took place.

5. TIP
A. Make the Connection Program, Sarah-Five applications were received; three
will be fully funded and one will receive partial funding. Fully funded: Town of
Granville to do work on their rails to trails; Town of Warrensburg to do some
sidewalk replacement; Village of Whitehall to do sidewalk replacement and
Partial funding: Town of Lake Luzerne to do some sidewalk installation along
Route 9N. There were more applications asking for money than there was
money available. Aaron had a discussion with Mary Anne Mariotti regarding
letting dates for this program. Because of the success of this program, it may
become an annual program.

B. Project Updates
1) Warren County, Kevin Hajos-Bids have been opened on Corinth
Road; opened bids last Thursday for the Milton Street project; Stony Creek
and Grist Mill were completed about a month ago and work on the
Warrensburg Road Bridge will resume in the Spring.

Joe Sullivan reported on the Bay Street stimulus project. The project is
70% completed from Sanford Street to city line. Seeding. installing curbs and
site work left to be done. Paving will take place in Spring 2010. The project
should be completed in June.

Jeff Tennyson- Beach Road will be let next fall; additional money will
be needed (2-3% increase); looking to add a ROW portion to the project; TIP
amendment will be needed. Aaron had suggested to Mr. Tennyson the
completion of a new TIP application rather than an amendment.

2) Washington County, Willy Grimmke-Mr. Grimmke started with the
stimulus projects. The bridges in Whitehall have been contracted and
awarded; the bulk of the work will not start until spring; the two 1R projects
will be delayed, due in part to a FHWA audit); Cty Rte 12 supplemental to
include the Lower Turnpike Bridge rehab; County 61 over the Battenkill is in
the process of progressing design and working on ROW.

3) Saratoga County, Mike Valentine had a question about the progress on
Rte. 9 and Cty. Rte. 24 Spier Falls. Mr. Hansen did not have the material with
him to answer the questions.

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4) NYSDOT, Robert Hansen – Congress is looking hard at a potential
second stimulus package for roads and bridges; discussion has taken place
with Hudson Falls about the ongoing Route 4 project; there are two projects
coming up before the end of the year, assuming the budget doesn’t collapse
completely – I-87 Rte 9 in Pottersville and Rte. 372 over the Battenkill.

C. Amendments and Modifications-none

D. Next TIP Update
1) Allocations, Aaron has no numbers yet. Projects have to be ready to
go if and when the stimulus package becomes available. This raises the
question whether we want to introduce more design for more projects earlier
in the process without necessarily putting construction phases in because we
don’t have the money. Mr. Grimmke brought up the concern with the Brooks
Act and the ramifications. We have no allocations and we don’t know what we
are dealing with yet, but we need to get projects ready. Aaron would still like
to receive from project sponsors new applications whether they are already in
the TIP or not.

2) Selection Procedures: (handouts) The process went fairly well the last
time. The projects were easy to score. People were generally satisfied with
the results of the scoring process. Ms. Mariotti said she had developed some
selection criteria for bridges and would be happy to share them with us.
Aaron wanted to point out to the municipalities that we have to be in a
position to entertain federal funding for pavement rehabs. Local
municipalities have not usually approached us with this.

3) Solicitation for TIP and UPWP projects: Aaron wondered whether we
should be dong a solicitation for TIP or UPWP projects and if there were big
planning projects that require assistance from A/GFTC, locally or regionally.
Aaron would like to see the annual planning program going in the direction of
smaller projects (school studies, safety assessments).

6. Other Items- Wayne LaMothe thanked Warren County DPW for the
work done on the canal trail along the Feeder Canal. The trail was resurfaced.
Bob Hansen-Aaron received some information about the state finance plan for the
remainder of this year and was advised where there may be an issue regarding
temporary restrictions on new federal and state authorizations unless they are
under $100K.

7. Next Meeting schedule and adjourn- Aaron asked if he sent out a project
solicitation could he reasonably expect to get project applications back by end of the
year. The end of January was suggested. A meeting will be scheduled in February.
TIP should be updated by the summer of 2010 for a final committee-approved
document. Aaron also brought up E-STIP. All the MPOs will feed their information
into standardized software that generates the STIP from the TIPs.

Mr. Valentine made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:50 AM.